Eh - again, I think he effectively has one.

If the Cardinals say "We need you to bonus out your salary to effectuate a deal" and if he doesn't like the answer when he responds "to where?" then he can tell them to pound sand.

I don't see anybody simply absorbing his $19 million base next season. He's going to have to cooperate to get a deal done.

I don't know how they make it work capwise though. That would take a ton to work around because they're pretty short on space in 2024.

Man do you remember all those tight-window throws to JuJu and even MVS last year, where there was literally no separation?

https://i.imgur.com/ApmKc1K.gif

https://i.imgur.com/ZgqcIgP.gif

Now you got a guy who is the best in the NFL at that shit.

Mahomes will do this all ****ing season with D-Hop.

https://i.imgur.com/BSZwk0r.gif

In '21 and prior, the tight window throws plagued us because Tyreek (and others) would often double-clutch the ball and it would bounce to a defender for a turnover.

I wouldn't say Mahomes is scared to make those throws or prefers not to because of his own skills, I'd say he's just been burned by his receivers in the past.

Julio Jones is 110% an exception and NOT the norm. The wheels fell off and his body folded. How many more examples are there out there of an all-time great wide receiver having zero left in the tank after the age of 30? I have 15+ examples of all-time greats that played at an extremely high level well into their 30s.

Brilliant!

So he basically still has a no trade clause, this is going to happen!

Spot on, notice he trusted JuJu and Fortson. Guys that havent burned him.

Mahomes/Hopkins would be another level!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bill Belichick on DeAndre Hopkins: &quot;If you open NFL receiver in the dictionary, his picture is next to it. Gets open and catches the ball. Doesn&#39;t matter what the route is, doesn&#39;t matter what the coverage is, doesn&#39;t matter where the ball&#39;s thrown, or what the situation [is].&quot; <a href="https://t.co/Oso5E2XNUu">pic.twitter.com/Oso5E2XNUu</a></p>&mdash; Rivers McCown (@riversmccown) <a href="https://twitter.com/riversmccown/status/1199803139664359424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Something isn't right with Cooks. On paper he looks nice, but every team/HC has basically bailed on him after just a season or two.

Would you put Hopkins in the 'all time great' camp?

Because for many of those guys, they became all time greats by VIRTUE of their performance in their 30s. It's a self-selecting group; it's how they accumulated those numbers - by simply continuing to play at a very high level for another 3-4 years into their 30s.

For example, at 29 Chad Johnson looked for all the world like an 'all-time great' and then...wasn't. Nobody considers Roddy White an 'all time great' but through his late 20s he put up 6 consecutive 1,000 yard seasons and averaged almost 1,300 yards/season over that span.

He plays 3-4 more years at that level and his numbers land him in the top 15-20 of all time. But he didn't. He isn't considered an 'all time great' BECAUSE his didn't perform into his mid 30s.

Playing well into their mid-30s is what makes the majority of these guys fall into 'all-time great' status with notable exceptions like Julio Jones and Calvin Johnson who took the Sandy Koufax/Pedro Martinez route and were just so damn dominant in their primes that they didn't need longevity.

I don't think Hopkins falls into that latter category and I don't see anything to confidently state he'd qualify for the former.

And again - I'm offering him $15 million/season here; i'm not saying he'll suck. But I think I'm pricing in the risk of collapse into my offer.

I know we made due with less than stellar wr play but we lost a 1000 yard receiver and we have to do something to replace that. We can go WR in the first but Andy and rookie receivers never have an impact year 1. We should be all over this move.

Uuuuhhhh-no they can't. Current available cap is a little over $9.5M. Before you start on the Jones deal, it's not officially done yet and no one outside of Veach and Jones's people know what the terms are.

As much as I'd like to lay a 50 burger on the hated Raiders (and 49 on the Donkeys) every game, I never want to see a repeat of the DICK Vermin years again.

Desean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin both were incredibly productive their rookie seasons. Has quite a bit more to do with the guys we take. We've taken 3 WRs in the first 3 rounds for Reids entire tenure here. Conley, Hardman and Moore.

Yeah I agree but Hopkins is almost in the same category it just takes 3/4 seasons. Is that their fault? Is it the teams fault?

Dont know for sure but thats what makes WRs like this available to us.

No better team or Coach than Chiefs/Andy to handle a player on his 2nd or 3rd chance. (or 5th/6th in the Cooks case, LOL)

Toney had 12 regular season games total as a member of the NYG and immediately contributed heavily once he got here.