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FloridaMan88 08-17-2006 06:23 PM

Okay Gunther supporters DEFEND YOUR BOY!
 
Remind us again why the Chiefs were smart in keeping Gunther onboard as defensive coordinator.

I need a good laugh to get through this soon-to-be ass kicking

Saulbadguy 08-17-2006 06:31 PM

It's obviously because we don't have enough crimin..er..UM players on our team.

eChief 08-17-2006 06:46 PM

There is no excuse for the defense I'm seeing tonight. I'd fire him now and avoid the rush at the end of the season.

I think Joe Bling off the street might be able to come up with something better.

If Herman is responsible for what I see he may not last long either.

Hydrae 08-17-2006 06:49 PM

We did not do anything about what we all knew was our biggest problem area, the middle of the defensive line.

I am depressed and it is only preseason. :sulk:

plbrdude 08-17-2006 06:50 PM

so far watchin' this reminds me of an old moon martin song. soon to be the defenses' theme song.
"pushed around"

BigVE 08-17-2006 06:51 PM

Just wait till our STARTERS come in....oh. Never mind.

ChiefClint 08-17-2006 06:53 PM

Looks familiar boys.

4th and Long 08-17-2006 06:53 PM

I don't know how to tell you this but the Cover Two is Herm's defense, not Guns. Blaming Gun for trying to impliment this defense in like blaming him for LJ's lack of yardage tonight.

NewChief 08-17-2006 06:54 PM

I keep repeating the mantra, "It's only preseason" to myself, but it's just not providing the relief I'm looking for.

4th and Long 08-17-2006 06:56 PM

Quote:

The thing about the cover two is that it already has been made obsolete by a shift in offensive strategy and personnel. The defense was a response to the West Coast offense, and you won’t find a better defense for shutting down the swing passes and throws out to the flat that were a staple of West Coast offenses seven or eight years ago. But offenses have adapted to this in a variety of ways, including going more vertical and, especially, loading up the offensive line and moving to a power running game, which is an extremely effective counter to a defense built on undersized players that insists on stopping the run with seven defenders. At this point you need to have exceptional personnel to get the defense to really work (as Tampa does), and it’s an absolute disaster to run with incorrect personnel, as any Jets fan can attest. From the moment the Jets installed the defense, their run defense plummeted to the bottom of the league, where it has stayed, challenged only by Tony Dungy up in Indy running his own version of the Cover 2. Which is a long way of pointing out that if you want to run that defense in this day and age and continue to be called a defensive genius…you better have Peyton Manning strapping it up for you.

plbrdude 08-17-2006 06:58 PM

doesn't matter whose d it is, at least they could give the impression that they're trying. so far it looks like they're going through the motions for a ny offensive scrimmage.

FloridaMan88 08-17-2006 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4th and Long
I don't know how to tell you this but the Cover Two is Herm's defense, not Guns. Blaming Gun for trying to impliment this defense in like blaming him for LJ's lack of yardage tonight.


Hey dumbshit if you are going to continue ass kiss Gunther you better bring something stronger than that weak shit.

So let's see the last 2 years Gunther was a victim of Vermeil's lack of emphasis on defense, lack of talent and not having his choice of assistant coaches. Now Gunther is a victim of Herm's Cover 2.

So apparently the delicate flower that is Gunther can't be blamed for how horrible this defense continues to look, regardless of who the assistant coaches are, who the head coach is and what the current level of talent on defense is.

MichaelH 08-17-2006 07:08 PM

I have been a supporter of Gun for a long time. But, if the defense plays like this during the regular season, I will drive to KC and pull his shirtsleaves off and kick him to the curb just like Robinson. :cuss:

The Bad Guy 08-17-2006 07:25 PM

You truly are a dickbag.

I must have missed the memo where preseason counted.

I could give a flying **** what happens in the preseason. I'm no Gunther supporter, but I don't give a shit.

You must live a real, real miserable life.

ROYC75 08-17-2006 07:31 PM

I think we should go 0-4 preseason, at least whem we win in the reg. season it will look like an improvement..................


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