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ForeverChiefs58 02-11-2011 03:36 PM

Pioli's Big Board
 
Pioli's Big Board
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 24, 2011 9:02 PM CST

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This is Mocking Dan's Top 100 of his actual Top 200. If the Kansas City Chiefs GM Scott Pioli was parsing Dan's list from www.mockingthedraft.com who would we, could we, and should we look at? Lets dissect the best 2011 NFL Draft talent by scheme, then by need, then we will have a good criteria in place for the first three rounds of the Chiefs Draft. We have picks number 21, 55, and 88 around 122, 150, 154, 186, and 218 (ballparkish) as we sit today. So lets go :)



Lets eliminate the 4-3 defensive players and the Power Scheme blockers.

3. Da'Quan Bowers | 6'4, 280 pounds | DE | Clemson *
4. Nick Fairley | 6'5, 298 pounds | DT | Auburn *
10. Cameron Heyward | 6'6, 288 pounds | DE | Ohio State
12. Adrian Clayborn | 6'3, 282 pounds | DE | Iowa
13. Stephen Paea | 6'1, 295 pounds | DT | Oregon State
22. Greg Jones | 5'11, 228 pounds | MLB | Michigan State
24. Jurrell Casey | 6'1, 305 pounds | DT | Southern California *
32. Marvin Austin | 6'3, 305 pounds | DT | North Carolina
35. Von Miller | 6'3, 240 pounds | OLB | Texas A&M
36. Gabe Carimi | 6'7, 315 pounds | OT | Wisconsin
39. Corey Liuget | 6'3, 300 pounds | DT | Illinois *
43. Drake Nevis | 6'2, 285 pounds | DT | LSU
44. Rodney Hudson | 6'2, 283 pounds | G | Florida State
48. Tyron Smith | 6'6, 285 pounds | OT | Southern California *
52. Bruce Carter | 6'3, 230 pounds | OLB | North Carolina
58. Mason Foster | 6'2, 240 pounds | OLB | Washington
64. Quan Sturdivant | 6'2, 235 pounds | MLB | North Carolina
66. Jarvis Jenkins | 6'4, 305 pounds | DT | Clemson
78. Dontay Moch | 6'1, 240 pounds | DE/OLB | Nevada
90. Lee Ziemba | 6'8, 310 pounds | OT | Auburn

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Now let's eliminate those that are probably not falling to Pick # 21

1. A.J. Green | 6'4, 200 pounds | WR | Georgia *
2. Patrick Peterson | 6'1, 222 pounds | CB | LSU *
5. Julio Jones | 6'4, 210 pounds | WR | Alabama *
6. Prince Amukamara | 6'1, 200 pounds | CB | Nebraska
7. Marcell Dareus | 6'3, 304 pounds | DT/DE | Alabama *
14. Cameron Jordan | 6'4, 285 pounds | DE | California - interviewed By Chiefs
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Now let's eliminate those positions we have good depth in or are probably not looking for a 1st-3rd rounder in.

11. Mark Ingram | 5'10, 215 pounds | RB | Alabama *
18. Mikel Leshoure | 6'0, 230 pounds | RB | Illinois *
21. Blaine Gabbert | 6'5, 240 pounds | QB | Missouri *
25. Cam Newton | 6'6, 246 pounds | QB | Auburn *
26. Kyle Rudolph | 6'6, 265 pounds | TE | Notre Dame *
34. Ryan Williams | 5'10, 210 pounds | RB | Virginia Tech **
40. Ryan Mallett | 6'7, 238 pounds | QB | Arkansas *
47. Jake Locker | 6'3, 226 pounds | QB | Washington
61. Tyler Sash | 6'1, 210 pounds | SS | Iowa *
65. DeAndre McDaniel | 6'0, 212 pounds | SS | Clemson
71. Jordan Todman | 5'9, 190 pounds | RB | Connecticut *
95. Ahmad Black | 5'9, 185 pounds | SS | Florida

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Now let's break out what is left by position groups:

NT, 3-4 DE's and Tweener 3-4 OLB's

8. Robert Quinn | 6'5, 265 pounds | DE | North Carolina *
9. Aldon Smith | 6'4, 258 pounds | DE | Missouri **
15. Justin Houston | 6'3, 254 pounds | DE/OLB | Georgia *
23. J.J. Watt | 6'6, 292 pounds | DE/DT | Wisconsin *
29. Allen Bailey | 6'4, 285 pounds | DT/DE | Miami (Fla.)
31. Akeem Ayers | 6'5, 254 pounds | OLB | UCLA *
33. Ryan Kerrigan | 6'4, 255 pounds | OLB | Purdue
37. Muhammad Wilkerson | 6'5, 305 pounds | DT | Temple *
73. Pernell McPhee | 6'4, 285 pounds | DE | Mississippi State
75. Mark Herzlich | 6'4, 248 pounds | OLB | Boston College
77. Phil Taylor | 6'4, 355 pounds | DT | Baylor
80. Sione Fua | 6'2, 307 pounds | DT | Stanford
86. Jeremy Beal | 6'3, 261 pounds | DE | Oklahoma
89. Jerrell Powe | 6'2, 340 pounds | DT | Mississippi
93. Lawrence Guy | 6'5, 300 pounds | DT | Arizona State *
96. Sam Acho | 6'3, 260 pounds | DE | Texas
98. Jabaal Sheard | 6'4, 260 pounds | DE | Pittsburgh
99. Christian Ballard | 6'5, 285 pounds | DT/DE | Iowa - interviewed By Chiefs

Cornerbacks and Free Safeties

16. Brandon Harris | 5'11, 195 pounds | CB | Miami (Fla.) *
30. Jimmy Smith | 6'2, 205 pounds | CB | Colorado
38. Aaron Williams | 6'1, 195 pounds | CB | Texas *
45. Rahim Moore | 6'1, 195 pounds | FS | UCLA *
50. Johnny Patrick | 6'0, 190 pounds | CB | Louisville
51. Quinton Carter | 6'1, 195 pounds | FS | Oklahoma - interviewed By Chiefs
53. Brandon Burton | 6'0, 185 pounds | CB | Utah *
54. Deunta Williams | 6'2, 210 pounds | FS | North Carolina
59. Jaiquawn Jarrett | 6'2, 202 pounds | FS | Temple
67. Ras-I Dowling | 6'2, 200 pounds | CB | Virginia
68. Robert Sands | 6'4, 221 pounds | FS | West Virgnia *
74. Curtis Brown | 6'0, 184 pounds | CB | Texas
79. Davon House | 6'0, 190 pounds | CB | New Mexico State
91. Tejay Johnson | 6'1, 212 pounds | FS | TCU
Eric Haag SS Nebraska - interviewed By Chiefs

Offensive Linemen

17. Mike Pouncey | 6'5, 320 pounds | G/C | Florida
20. Derek Sherrod | 6'6, 300 pounds | OT | Mississippi State
28. Anthony Costanzo | 6'7, 308 pounds | OT | Boston College - interviewed By Chiefs
41. Nate Solder | 6'8, 305 pounds | OT | Colorado
46. Stefen Wisniewski | 6'3, 302 pounds | C | Penn State
63. Kristofer O'Dowd | 6'5, 300 pounds | C | Southern California - interviewed By Chiefs
70. DeMarcus Love | 6'5, 315 pounds | OT | Arkansas
72. Danny Watkins | 6'4, 310 pounds | OT | Baylor - 26 year old rookie offensive lineman
127. Jason Pinkston | 6'4, 305 pounds | OT | Pittsburgh - interviewed By Chiefs
195. Stephen Schilling | 6'5, 304 pounds | G/OT | Michigan - interviewed By Chiefs

Receivers

19. Jonathan Baldwin | 6'5, 220 pounds | WR | Pittsburgh *
27. Torrey Smith | 6'1, 205 pounds | WR | Maryland *
55. Jerrell Jernigan | 5'9, 185 pounds | WR/KR | Troy
56. D.J. Williams | 6'2, 250 pounds | TE | Arkansas
57. Ronald Johnson | 6'0, 190 pounds | WR | Southern California
60. Randall Cobb | 5'11, 190 pounds | WR/ATH | Kentucky *
62. Titus Young | 5'11, 170 pounds | WR | Boise State
76. Luke Stocker | 6'6, 240 pounds | TE | Tennessee - interviewed By Chiefs
82. Leonard Hankerson | 6'3, 215 pounds | WR | Miami (Fla.)
84. Weslye Saunders | 6'5, 280 pounds | TE | South Carolina
92. Niles Paul | 6'1, 220 pounds | WR | Nebraska
94. Greg Little | 6'3, 210 pounds | WR | North Carolina
97. Vincent Brown | 6'0, 195 pounds | WR | San Diego State
### Jock Sanders 5'7 179 WR West Virginia - interviewed By Chiefs
### Dwayne Harris 6'0 205 WR East Carolina - interviewed By Chiefs

Inside Linebackers

42. Nate Irving | 6'1, 235 pounds | MLB | North Carolina State
49. Martez Wilson | 6'4, 250 pounds | MLB | Illinois *
100. Kelvin Sheppard | 6'3, 240 pounds | MLB | LSU

Running backs and Quarterbacks

69. DeMarco Murray | 6'1, 214 pounds | RB | Oklahoma
81. Pat Devlin | 6'4, 220 pounds | QB | Delaware
83. Roy Helu | 6'0, 215 pounds | RB | Nebraska
85. Noel Devine | 5'8, 176 pounds | RB | West Virginia - interviewed By Chiefs
87. Christian Ponder | 6'2, 219 pounds | QB | Florida State
88. Shane Vereen | 5'10, 199 pounds | RB | California *
110. Bilal Powell | 6'0, 215 pounds | RB | Louisville - interviewed By Chiefs

I can mark off players from the Chiefs Big Board that you all deem unworthy of consideration for the top 3 picks :)

Riser and Sinkers from Draftcountdown blogs Scott Wright

Go Chiefs

Hammock Parties 02-11-2011 03:38 PM

Justin Houston FTW.

Tribal Warfare 02-11-2011 03:55 PM

My gut feeling is it's going to be Phil Taylor , because Pioli's philosophy of DL/OL in general.

BPA would be Houston though.

Chiefnj2 02-11-2011 04:04 PM

He eliminates Von Miller as not fitting KC's scheme?

The author apparently doesn't have much of a clue.

AndChiefs 02-11-2011 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7424838)
He eliminates Von Miller as not fitting KC's scheme?

The author apparently doesn't have much of a clue.

Wow took the words straight out of my mouth. Von Miller played in a 3-4 at A&M and would be a great fit.

That being said...he certainly belonged in the will likely be picked before #21 column.

cabletech94 02-11-2011 04:13 PM

76. Luke Stocker | 6'6, 240 pounds | TE | Tennessee - interviewed By Chiefs


uh-oh.

Dante84 02-11-2011 04:16 PM

If someone who knows what they are doing put this together, it would be really great.

Then you rank the remaining candidates based on a combination of talent, leadership ability, stats, measurables, the talent they faced in college.... anything I'm leaving out?

You would have a legitimate "Chiefs board" that might resemble the real one.

milkman 02-11-2011 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 7424816)
My gut feeling is it's going to be Phil Taylor , because Pioli's philosophy of DL/OL in general.

BPA would be Houston though.

So, you're expanding your whipering skills to Scott Pioli now?

Stick to what you've already proven your idiocy on.

No need to further prove your idiocy.

ToxSocks 02-11-2011 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7424838)
He eliminates Von Miller as not fitting KC's scheme?

The author apparently doesn't have much of a clue.

Pretty much right where i stopped reading.

Hammock Parties 02-11-2011 05:52 PM

Von Miller doesn't fit our scheme because the NE 3-4 typically employs bigger OLB. I doubt the Chiefs pick him. He's 243 lbs.

Tribal Warfare 02-11-2011 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClayWhit (Post 7425102)
Von Miller doesn't fit our scheme because the NE 3-4 typically employs bigger OLB. I doubt the Chiefs pick him. He's 243 lbs.

238 at the Senior Bowl

the Talking Can 02-11-2011 06:08 PM

eh, it's a smart way to look at the players even if he's wrong about Miller...


but we really have no clue who they'll draft...a CB or RB in the first 3 rounds could happen

WebGem 02-11-2011 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 7424757)
17. Mike Pouncey | 6'5, 320 pounds | G/C | Florida

MP FTW

DeezNutz 02-11-2011 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebGem (Post 7425235)
MP FTW

Most everything I've seen and read indicate that he'll be a guard, which we don't need.

milkman 02-11-2011 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7425274)
Most everything I've seen and read indicate that he'll be a guard, which we don't need.

I like Jon Asomoah, and I like what Ryan Lilja brings to the table in terms of mobility.

I think Asomoah can bring some of that same mobility, and he can get stronger, to be a more effective guard in the power run game in short yardage situations than we have at this point, but Lija is maxed out in that.

I wouldn't use a first round pick on a guard, but we can certainly improve.


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