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jwazzie 04-25-2012 10:42 AM

Trade Prediction, No Mock
 
Bears move to #11

Chiefs move down to #19 and also receive #50


Book it!....ok, don't this will probably haunt me.

buddha 04-25-2012 12:08 PM

Who do the Bears take there?

jwazzie 04-25-2012 12:26 PM

I think they go after DeCastro or Kechley (if he is there). Like I said, just my predicition, but the bears are a team that seems always desperate to get a player they think that will get them over the edge

buddha 04-25-2012 12:29 PM

The Bears aren't shy about drafting OL early. I like that about them. The best teams were built around that terrific defense and dominant OL.

milkman 04-25-2012 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by buddha (Post 8565147)
The Bears aren't shy about drafting OL early. I like that about them. The best teams were built around that terrific defense and dominant OL.

You mean like the SB Champion Giants?

How about that great O-Line that lead the Pack to the SB last year?

And, of course, that Steeler SB team had an awsome O-Line.

buddha 04-25-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8565158)
You mean like the SB Champion Giants?

How about that great O-Line that lead the Pack to the SB last year?

And, of course, that Steeler SB team had an awsome O-Line.

Which Steeler team are you referring to? The Webster years? Yes...they had great offensive lines. They controlled the clock. They imposed their will consistently.

Yes, wouldn't it be wonderful if we could just pick up the next Manning or Rogers? :thumb: Unfortunately, that guy isn't out there by pick #3.

So let's just keep carping at every other possibility. :banghead:

Micjones 04-25-2012 12:40 PM

Who do we take at 19?

milkman 04-25-2012 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by buddha (Post 8565178)
Which Steeler team are you referring to? The Webster years? Yes...they had great offensive lines. They controlled the clock. They imposed their will consistently.

Yes, wouldn't it be wonderful if we could just pick up the next Manning or Rogers? :thumb: Unfortunately, that guy isn't out there by pick #3.

So let's just keep carping at every other possibility. :banghead:

You bring some really solid points to the table on every other discuusion in this forum, so I know that you are smarter that to think I'm talking about the 70's Steelers.

This is not anywhere close to the same league now that it was in the 70s.

This is QB driven league, and teams with mediocre O-Lines have won 3 or 4 of the last 4 or 5 SBs.

I would argue that the Pats O-Line over the last 10 years has been overrated because of Tom Brady, as well, and that they haven't been nearly as good as most seem to think, as illustrated by the fact that they haven't been able to run ball consistently and effectively for almost the entire time that Brady has been the QB, and further illustrated by the number of sacks they allowed when Cassel was behind center for them in '08.

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8565183)
Who do we take at 19?

Dvaid DeCastro.

whoman69 04-25-2012 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8565232)
You bring some really solid points to the table on every other discuusion in this forum, so I know that you are smarter that to think I'm talking about the 70's Steelers.

This is not anywhere close to the same league now that it was in the 70s.

This is QB driven league, and teams with mediocre O-Lines have won 3 or 4 of the last 4 or 5 SBs.

I would argue that the Pats O-Line over the last 10 years has been overrated because of Tom Brady, as well, and that they haven't been nearly as good as most seem to think, as illustrated by the fact that they haven't been able to run ball consistently and effectively for almost the entire time that Brady has been the QB, and further illustrated by the number of sacks they allowed when Cassel was behind center for them in '08.



Dvaid DeCastro.

Cassel has taken sacks everywhere. We cut our sack total in half when he was gone last year.

Coogs 04-25-2012 01:00 PM

If the Bears hadn't traded for the league's blacksheep WR from Miami, via way of Denver, I could have seen this trade as a real possibility if Floyd would have been on the board at 11. But now that they have Marshall, I'm not sure who their target might be to trade more picks in this years draft.

Brock 04-25-2012 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddha (Post 8565147)
The Bears aren't shy about drafting OL early. I like that about them. The best teams were built around that terrific defense and dominant OL.

The best teams are built around a QB. You can give Cassel probowlers at every OL position and it doesn't make him any better.

RealSNR 04-25-2012 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jwazzie (Post 8565129)
I think they go after DeCastro or Kechley (if he is there). Like I said, just my predicition, but the bears are a team that seems always desperate to get a player they think that will get them over the edge

Dumb. By staying pat at 19 they can get that elite "trench" guy and still save picks. DeCastro, Konz, and Jonathan Martin will all be available at 19 most likely. On the defensive line, Coples, Poe, and Still will likely be around. Hell, lots of people think they'll go Kendall Wright or Stephen Hill.

They've got options out the wazoo by sticking around at 19. Trading up would be reeruned.

Micjones 04-25-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8565232)
Dvaid DeCastro.

That'd be INCREDIBLE value at 19.
I find it hard to believe he'll still be there though.

buddha 04-25-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8565265)
The best teams are built around a QB. You can give Cassel probowlers at every OL position and it doesn't make him any better.

Bullshit! I'm not a Cassel fan in the least, but that is just wrong on every level. You put a Pro Bowl line in front of KC's existing backfield and it makes EVERYTHING better, especially the defense. Just ask them!

It is a passing league Milkman (to address the earlier post). I understand that as well as you do. If you have an elite QB, you are one of teams who can contend for the Super Bowl. No question about that. I just don't believe that Tannehill is going to be one of those guys, and I don't want the Chiefs to gamble when there are terrific players sitting there at that pick who could improve the team.

redshirt32 04-25-2012 01:15 PM

http://www.gbnreport.com/picksbyteam.html

hmmm trade first we need to look at the board to see who has the most picks or should i say most picks first and second round.

Cleavland is loaded possible they try to improve on there second first round pick

Bengals possible they try to improve there second first round pick

Pats hmm they only trade with oakland LMAO i could see them trading one pick out of first round

were not gona gain a second rd pick trading down unless some crazy ass team reaches and that dosent happen to the chiefs.

Possible to trade down with eagles or dallas with the 11 pick for a 3rd at best
I dont see many teams moving more than 4 to 7 spots up and i dont see us getting a second round pick in any way we are not that fortunate.

I could see a couple trades if the chiefs wanted more picks in the 3rd round by trading twice in the first once at 11th for the 14/15 spot and again 14/15 for 21/22pck

I could live with picking up a 3rd and dropping to 14 or 15


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