A ton of passing defense snaps, a ton of passing defense looks.
 

I watched the 2nd half of the game tonight, and marked down the different looks Bob Sutton gave Romo every time he dropped back to pass the ball.

Forgive my shorthand:

• 4-3: four down lineman (Hali/Poe/Bailey/Houston), Berry playing alongside DJ
• 4-3: four down lineman (Jackson/Poe/DeVito/Hali), Houston rushes ,DJ holds at LOS
• Base: three down lineman, eight players drop
• Base: three down lineman, Hali & Houston rush
• Base: three down lineman, Hali & Houston hold at LOS
• Base: three down lineman, Hali rush, Houston drops four times
• Base: three down lineman, Hali drops, Houston rush
• Base: three down lineman, Hali rush, Houston drops, DJ holds at LOS
• Base: three down lineman, Hali & Houston rush, DJ drops from the LOS at the snap
• Base: three down lineman, Hali drops, Houston rush, DJ & Jordan drop from the LOS at the snap
• Base: three down lineman, Hali rush, Houston drops, DJ & Jordan drop from the LOS at the snap three times
• Nickel: three down lineman, Hali & Houston rush
• Dime: poe + Jackson down, Hali rush, eight players drop
• Dime: poe + Jackson down, Hali & Houston rush, Berry blitzes from ROLB
• Dime: poe + bailey down, Hali rush, Houston holds at LOS, Berry playing alongside DJ
• Dime: poe + Jackson + Hali down, Houston rush, DJ moves to blitz but peels off with RB
• Dime: poe + bailey down, Hali drops, Houston rush, Berry blitzes from LB, Demps blitzes from 10 yards out
• Dime: poe + Hali down, Houston drops, DJ delayed blitz, Abdullah playing at ILB, Demps blitzing from LOLB
• Dime: poe + bailey down, Hali lined up as ILB, Houston rush, Berry blitzes from ROLB, Abdullah blitzes from slot
• Dime: poe + Jackson down, Hali rush, Houston holds at LOS, Lewis blitzes from LOLB, DJ @ LOS at snap but drops
• Dime: poe + jackson down, Hali & Houston rush, DJ moves to blitz but peels off with RB, Berry lined up right over TE
• Dime: poe + bailey + Hali down, Houston rush, DJ moves to blitz but peels off with RB, Berry playing alongside DJ
• Dime: poe + Bailey down, Hali drops, Houston & DJ drops from the LOS at the snap, Berry blitz from ROLB, Abdullah blitz from slot
• 1-3-7 alignment: only poe down, Hali rushes, Houston drops, DJ drops from the LOS at the snap, Parker & Abdullah blitz from ROLB

Pretty crazy.

That is what you call a modern, complex defense.

I like the diversity, but Houston needs to pin his ears back more

He's not one dimensional like Hali.

He's an asset in coverage...

Houston needs more rushes

Charles needs more rushes...

Dontario needs more carries

This was supposed to be a late night bullshit thread.

I don't know if that was clear.

Andy curious if you haz cheezburgerz...

I'm not a defensive guru but watching the coaches film the Chiefs really seem to be running a hybrid 3-4/4-3, with Poe lining up at 3-tech as much as he does over center. Seems to work though.

I think I heard something last week about Poe lining up at every position on the line during the Jax game.

They're really mixing things up, and it's a benefit to have so many flexible (but good) guys to move around. Usually the flex guys are tweeners who don't really work at tackle or end.

The 3-4 (and our talent) allows unlimited ways to come at an offense.

Imagine being a RT and having someone the size of Poe opposite you before the snap...

Big, strong and quick to the point of "wtf, how did he get by me".

You could see that in Joekel's body language when facing Houston.

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I just don't want to see any more standing around right before the snap. Man that was frustrating to watch. They always seemed to recover from it but MAN!!!!

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Sums up a big part of the philosophy of this Defense
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It's so sweet to see a man willing to use this talent to attack and do it from every possible angle...

http://www.footballxos.com/download/...e-Rex-Ryan.pdf

here's the 2010 jets D. Its pretty much what they are running. Interesting reading when you have the time

Other than sneaking the secondary close to the LOS and attacking it's really hard to nail down any tendencies. Constantly lining up in odd formations, strange stunts, and shifting heavy.

He/they like to disguise the S. Sometimes he's a LB and at times only there for "show" in the box. Sometimes he's in man, sometimes zone, but lined up right there on the LOS.

I'm no expert but it almost seems like they're trying to shift the idea of zone blitz confusion to the secondary instead of the front 7...

Yep. Doesn't want to become predictable with who actually drops/blitzes in certain calls. Give some freedom to the OLB's to rush up in a two point or down in a 3 depending on their assignment.

Abdulluh and Demps have done a really good job in sub packages. Parker made a huge play and Cooper has held up in a handful of snaps

Reading this shit makes me really....stupified on how it's worked so far.

There's a lot of responsibility here on the S and if Lewis is as big a POS as CP wants us to believe this wouldn't even be possible...

He's done very well and I'm pleasantly surprised. Staying healthy is key with him of course but you can't be a step slow and hold up too well. Only way anyone can make up for speed is with smarts and knowing the D and game plan really well. Theyre going to get burned on some big pass plays no doubt but I will take the aggressiveness anyday

the pure volume of what they have installed I've got to give Sutton a ton of credit. He only brought with him the QC coach on D for the jets, Mark DeLone. The rest of the staff had to learn the D. Brashear, Gibbs, and Emmitt Thomas have decades in the business though and have coached all sorts of D and technique. That playbook is crammed full of 4-3 3-4 over under 4-6 all sorts of stunts techniques and coverages. That's a ton to adapt to in one offseason. With CBA rule
changes in the meeting time allowed in the offseason and all things considered its very remarkable

I'd really recommend that Direckshun reads the link from booger.

Just because Poe is aligning in the 3 technique doesn't mean it's a 4-3 look.

I could be wrong but I've yet to see Dontari align in a 9.

Now you're just being a glib fuc-.......OOOOOOooooooooh.

:)

I (eventually) saw what you did there...

God of Mischief.


Que the "Come on, man". :)

Whut?

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I do love seeing that.

imagine being a plate of ribs

Hali was a beast in Romeos read and react

I'm really interested to see how we handle Peyton. His bread & butter is reading defenses. Hopefully all this scheming will make his job harder at least.

This team just seems much MUCH more prepared to compete compared to the last couple seasons.

It's just nice to have a coaching staff and front office that knows wtf they're doing and are on the same page. We haven't had that since DV era. But even then one side of the ball was completely ignored. We're in a much better situation now.

I mean you don't have 5-6 Pro Bowlers on a 2-14 team unless of 2 things:
- you have horrible incompetent coaching
- horrible QB play

Wow, that's funny, we had both. Which btw having 6 Pro bowlers on a team that went 2-14 has to be a NFL record. Can anyone remember a team with a worse record that had just as many or more PB players?

I miss Crennel

He's lined up all over the place -- and they overweight one side more than I've ever seen from a Chiefs defense. Really crazy stuff that, as another poster said, is amazing that it has worked so well.

Nice post Direckshun. I like the way you refer to "down Linemen." You obviously know what you are talking about and I appreciate the formality of your description.

Interesting they are using some 4-3 in there.

Also, I wonder how many times they used three safeties in the nickel and dime? Are they using the 3-3-5 nickel with Berry in the "star" position? The star position is basically when a DB plays LB.

Did Berry play back at SS and Abdullah play nickel CB some? Or, was it Parker the nickel all day? Was Abdullah ever used as the Star? It would be interesting to see the secondary assignments too.

Philly is going to beat us a few times snapping the ball off before our D gets in position watch and see.

I think the NFL just felt sorry for us, so they let the Chiefs send a few more players.

Don't be surprised to see Berry used as the "star" a lot in this game. He will basically be used as a hybrid LB and spy on Vick. His #1 job will be to stop the read option whether it be Vick or McCoy. Auburn beat Oregon in the National Championship running variations of the nickel all day. LSU did the same thing the next year. Les Miles even practiced for the read option without a ball. Every guy just went to their assigned man. Our base defense will probably be the nickel in Philly. It matches up best against that offense and you can rotate DBs quickly. I could really see this happening.

Oh **** me mods, it is BlackBob.

There was a big variety on offense too.

didn't run duplicate plays for entire quarters at a time


big difference from the Haley R2P2 where we often ran duplicate plays in the same series

But, but, but,...you got to keep it simple so they can release their talent and play fast.

Herpy Derpy ... verdy derpy burpie /Haley

Keep in mind I only eyed the second half, but:

* The Chiefs only went nickel on a passing down once.
* The Chiefs' dime package was four safeties: Berry (there is no place he didn't line up: ILB, OLB, deep, LOS, slot, over the TE), Lewis (deep 99% of the time), Abdullah at nickel usually covering the slot, and Demps at dime frequently covering the slot.
* Abdullah, as I said, was almost always playing NCB. Never noticed him at the star, but maybe once.

Thanks man. Four safeties is pretty wild... I wonder if Abdullah will be the full time nickelback or if he was just in for Robinson?

I seemed like i noticed more safeties on the field than cornerbacks sometimes.

weird considering Dallas wasn't trying to run the ball



reflection on our corners or just health issues?

Hard to say. I'm thinking it's the health thing mostly as Robinson was out. That, and Cooper and Parker probably don't know the playbook yet.

I think they're going four safeties because they hate all of their corners. I don't even think they like Dunta that much -- they were playing him with the deep 2nd and 3rd stringers in the preseason.

Meanwhile, Reid/Dorsey have shown an affinity for versatile safeties who can cover. They drafted Commings out of Georgia who can play both, and Abdullah and Demps can both cover pretty well.

Really the only safety that doesn't cover that great is Lewis, who they used almost exclusively as a center fielder against Dallas (they played him up at the LOS a lot against JAX, though).

All they asked Parker to do anyway was blitz the one snap I saw him out there on a passing down.

Interesting and thanks for posting... I kind of think the personnel will change week to week to get the best match ups but, we'll see.

If there was ever a game they were going to use Dunta, it would be this one. He has knocked the **** out of the Eagles receivers and played them hard the last couple of years. Maybe there is a fear factor there? LOL

Summary of all defensive threads.

Direckshun, you just have too much time on your hands LMAO, but I genuinely appreciate this effort.

Unique defensive looks? flexible personnel? a creative DC?... let me just take a minute to, ah, hang on... :whackit: