Rate Pioli's Draft Pick By Pick
Grade Pioli's drafts.
Cut and paste the list and place your grades next to each pick. Please grade on the curve, meaning you need to take into account where they were drafted along with production. Example: 1. Tyson Jackson F- 2012 1. Dontari Poe 2. Jeff Allen 3. Donald Stephenson 4. Devon Wylie 5. DeQuan Menzie 6. Cyrus Gray 7. Jerome Long 7. Junior Hemingway 2011 1. Jonathan Baldwin 2. Rodney Hudson 3. Justin Houston 3. Allen Bailey 4. Jalil Brown 5. Ricky Stanzi 5. Gabe Miller 6. Jerrell Powe 7. Shane Bannon 2010 1 Eric Berry 2 Dexter McCluster 2 Javier Arenas 3 Jon Asamoah 3 Tony Moeaki 5 Kendrick Lewis 5 Cameron Sheffield 2009 1 Tyson Jackson 2. **** You Pioli 3 Alex Magee 4 Donald Washington 5 Colin Brown 6 Quinten Lawrence 7 Javarris Williams 7 Jake O'Connell 7 Ryan Succop It will be nice to destroy Pioli's supposed "strength" when it comes to the draft piece by piece. |
2012
1. Dontari Poe 2. Jeff Allen 3. Donald Stephenson 4. Devon Wylie 5. DeQuan Menzie All of these grades are incomplete 6. Cyrus Gray 7. Jerome Long 7. Junior Hemingway 2011 1. Jonathan Baldwin F 2. Rodney Hudson ? 3. Justin Houston A 3. Allen Bailey D- 4. Jalil Brown F 5. Ricky Stanzi F 5. Gabe Miller F 6. Jerrell Powe F 7. Shane Bannon F 2010 1 Eric Berry C 2 Dexter McCluster C 2 Javier Arenas C 3 Jon Asamoah C 3 Tony Moeaki D- 5 Kendrick Lewis F 5 Cameron Sheffield F 2009 1 Tyson Jackson F- 2. **** You Pioli F- 3 Alex Magee F 4 Donald Washington F 5 Colin Brown F 6 Quinten Lawrence F 7 Javarris Williams F 7 Jake O'Connell F 7 Ryan Succop D Final Grade : F (For Fuck You Pioli) |
How is Succop an A?
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People have funny expectations about drafts. I'll leave it at that.
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Lewis is a C
Asamoah is a B- everything else pretty much... |
Lol @ this thread.
Everyone is going to give almost every pick an F. Truth is somewhere in the middle. |
Jerrell Powe needs to play more. I think he can be better than Poe if he was treated the same in getting practice reps and game reps.
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2012
1. Dontari Poe - B 2. Jeff Allen - C 3. Donald Stephenson - D- 4. Devon Wylie - F 5. DeQuan Menzie - F 6. Cyrus Gray - D 7. Jerome Long - F 7. Junior Hemingway - F 2011 1. Jonathan Baldwin - F 2. Rodney Hudson - C 3. Justin Houston - A 3. Allen Bailey - C 4. Jalil Brown - C 5. Ricky Stanzi - F 5. Gabe Miller - F 6. Jerrell Powe - C 7. Shane Bannon - F 2010 1 Eric Berry - B 2 Dexter McCluster - D+ 2 Javier Arenas - D 3 Jon Asamoah - B+ 3 Tony Moeaki - D 5 Kendrick Lewis - C+ 5 Cameron Sheffield - F 2009 1 Tyson Jackson - F 2. **** You Pioli - F 3 Alex Magee - F 4 Donald Washington - F 5 Colin Brown - F 6 Quinten Lawrence - F 7 Javarris Williams - F 7 Jake O'Connell - F 7 Ryan Succop - B 17 F's 5 D's 6 C's 4 B's 1 A |
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I believe that a good coaching staff could flip a lot of those F's into C's and B's. |
Lotta work to give Pioli an F.
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The only "A" is a complete fluke. |
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I love the talent on this team but with Cassell and Crennel as HC, just those two kill that team. |
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I should know better than to get work done ahead of schedule. |
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2012
1. Dontari Poe - B 2. Jeff Allen - C 3. Donald Stephenson - F 4. Devon Wylie - D 5. DeQuan Menzie - INC 6. Cyrus Gray - C 7. Jerome Long - F 7. Junior Hemingway - F 2011 1. Jonathan Baldwin - F 2. Rodney Hudson - C 3. Justin Houston - A 3. Allen Bailey - C 4. Jalil Brown - C 5. Ricky Stanzi - F 5. Gabe Miller - F 6. Jerrell Powe - C 7. Shane Bannon - F 2010 1 Eric Berry - B 2 Dexter McCluster - F 2 Javier Arenas - D 3 Jon Asamoah - B 3 Tony Moeaki - D 5 Kendrick Lewis - C 5 Cameron Sheffield - D 2009 1 Tyson Jackson - F 2. Cassel - F 3 Alex Magee - F 4 Donald Washington - F 5 Colin Brown - F 6 Quinten Lawrence - F 7 Javarris Williams - F 7 Jake O'Connell - F 7 Ryan Succop - B |
That 2009 draft was probably the worst in team history.
2010 (Pioli's best draft) only gave him a B for it. 2011 is a C- all the others pretty much suck |
2011
1. Jonathan Baldwin F 2. Rodney Hudson I 3. Justin Houston C 3. Allen Bailey F 4. Jalil Brown F 5. Ricky Stanzi I 5. Gabe Miller F 6. Jerrell Powe D 7. Shane Bannon F 2010 1 Eric Berry C 2 Dexter McCluster D 2 Javier Arenas D 3 Jon Asamoah C 3 Tony Moeaki D 5 Kendrick Lewis D 5 Cameron Sheffield F |
2012
1. Dontari Poe - C 2. Jeff Allen - C 3. Donald Stephenson - D- 4. Devon Wylie - F 5. DeQuan Menzie - F 6. Cyrus Gray - D 7. Jerome Long - F 7. Junior Hemingway - F 2011 1. Jonathan Baldwin - F 2. Rodney Hudson - D 3. Justin Houston - A 3. Allen Bailey - B 4. Jalil Brown - C 5. Ricky Stanzi - F 5. Gabe Miller - F 6. Jerrell Powe - B 7. Shane Bannon - F 2010 1 Eric Berry - B 2 Dexter McCluster - C+ 2 Javier Arenas - D 3 Jon Asamoah - B 3 Tony Moeaki - C 5 Kendrick Lewis - C+ 5 Cameron Sheffield - F 2009 1 Tyson Jackson - F 3 Alex Magee - F 4 Donald Washington - F 5 Colin Brown - F 6 Quinten Lawrence - F 7 Javarris Williams - F 7 Jake O'Connell - F 7 Ryan Succop - B The Best Player Pioli's drafted so far is Houston. |
BTW, i gave the 40 year old rookie (Cassel) in 2009 an F as well, Thanks a lot Pissoli.
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2012
1. Dontari Poe - B 2. Jeff Allen - C 3. Donald Stephenson - C 4. Devon Wylie - C 5. DeQuan Menzie - C 6. Cyrus Gray - C 7. Jerome Long - D 7. Junior Hemingway - D 2011 1. Jonathan Baldwin - D 2. Rodney Hudson - B 3. Justin Houston - A 3. Allen Bailey - C+ 4. Jalil Brown - C 5. Ricky Stanzi - D- 5. Gabe Miller - F 6. Jerrell Powe - D+ 7. Shane Bannon - F 2010 1 Eric Berry - A- 2 Dexter McCluster - B- 2 Javier Arenas - C+ 3 Jon Asamoah - B 3 Tony Moeaki - B 5 Kendrick Lewis - B 5 Cameron Sheffield - C 2009 1 Tyson Jackson - D- 3 Alex Magee - F 4 Donald Washington - C- 5 Colin Brown - F 6 Quinten Lawrence - F 7 Javarris Williams - D- 7 Jake O'Connell - D 7 Ryan Succop - B+ |
I think it's important to grade relative to their draft spot. For instance, more weight should be given to a player drafted high that underperforms. Same with a player drafted low that overachieves relative to his position.
I'm not gonna do 2012. Too early to tell... 2011 1. Jonathan Baldwin D- (I don't know if he sucks or if Cassel refuses to look his way) 2. Rodney Hudson C (decidedly average) 3. Justin Houston B+ (looking pretty good thus far) 3. Allen Bailey D+ (meh) 4. Jalil Brown C (been okay considering he was a 4th rounder) 5. Ricky Stanzi F (what's the point?) 5. Gabe Miller F (who?) 6. Jerrell Powe C- (not awful) 7. Shane Bannon F (nope) 2010 1 Eric Berry C- (had one good year, got injured, having sub-par sophomore year) 2 Dexter McCluster D- (either he sucks or the coaching staff is awful) 2 Javier Arenas D (bad fulltime CB, not an atrocious nickel, not great on returns) 3 Jon Asamoah B (solid lineman for a 3rd rounder) 3 Tony Moeaki C (see Eric Berry) 5 Kendrick Lewis C (having a bad year but doesn't look to be awful overall) 5 Cameron Sheffield F (facepalm) 2009 1 Tyson Jackson F (there is no bigger failure than this pick right here) 2. Cassel D- (only thing that didn't make this an F was his one decent season) 3 Alex Magee F (bad pick) 4 Donald Washington F (furk) 5 Colin Brown F (again, furk) 6 Quinten Lawrence F (poop) 7 Javarris Williams F (peanut) 7 Jake O'Connell D (for a 7th rounder...well, whatever) 7 Ryan Succop B+ (kickers are kind of a dime a dozen, but he's been solid) If you were to assign a GPA, it would grade out to a 1.08 on a 4.0 scale. Pitiful. |
I see Houston is being overrated a bit.
Maybe a B. Way too soon to give him an A at this point. |
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Yeah, people are a little rough. You shouldn't expect to draft pro bowlers in the late rounds
2012 1. Dontari Poe - A (I know... I know....) 2. Jeff Allen - C (Not a bad pick. But you can't pass on a QB) 3. Donald Stephenson - Wait and see 4. Devon Wylie - Wait and see 5. DeQuan Menzie - C- 6. Cyrus Gray - A 7. Jerome Long - D 7. Junior Hemingway - Wait and see 2011 1. Jonathan Baldwin - C+ 2. Rodney Hudson - B 3. Justin Houston - A+ 3. Allen Bailey - B 4. Jalil Brown - C+ 5. Ricky Stanzi - A- 5. Gabe Miller - F 6. Jerrell Powe - A 7. Shane Bannon - F 2010 1 Eric Berry - B+ 2 Dexter McCluster - C+ (still a wait and see for me) 2 Javier Arenas - B- 3 Jon Asamoah - A- 3 Tony Moeaki - B 5 Kendrick Lewis - A- (for a 5th rounder, he's a great pick) 5 Cameron Sheffield - D 2009 1 Tyson Jackson - C+ 2. **** You Pioli - Z+ 3 Alex Magee - F 4 Donald Washington - D 5 Colin Brown - F 6 Quinten Lawrence - D 7 Javarris Williams - F 7 Jake O'Connell - F 7 Ryan Succop - B Quote:
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A second rounder for Cassole, TJ pick was a terrible pick Eric Berry looks like shit compared to Earl Thomas and Poe was a terrible choice. |
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2nd year player with like 5 ACTIVE games under his belt. What a ****ing waste... and he gets an A-! |
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I don't care about the Berry choice. We all wanted it and I think hindsight is 20/20 if we criticize the pick now. I still think he can improve with better coaching. Poe was a terrific pick, in my opinion. It's the gamble Pioli has refused to make. But too little too late. He plays a position of high positional value. And he has a very unique skill set. That's better than all the safe picks Pioli has continued to make. With better coaching, Poe has the upside to be a Vince Wilfork type guy, which I'd take in an absolute heartbeat. |
2012
1. Dontari Poe - C 2. Jeff Allen - C 3. Donald Stephenson - D 4. Devon Wylie - D 5. DeQuan Menzie - D 6. Cyrus Gray - D 7. Jerome Long - F 7. Junior Hemingway - F 2011 1. Jonathan Baldwin - F 2. Rodney Hudson - C 3. Justin Houston - A 3. Allen Bailey - D 4. Jalil Brown - D 5. Ricky Stanzi - F 5. Gabe Miller - F 6. Jerrell Powe - C 7. Shane Bannon - F 2010 1 Eric Berry - B 2 Dexter McCluster - C 2 Javier Arenas - D 3 Jon Asamoah - B 3 Tony Moeaki - C 5 Kendrick Lewis - C 5 Cameron Sheffield - D 2009 1 Tyson Jackson - D 3 Alex Magee - F 4 Donald Washington - F 5 Colin Brown - F 6 Quinten Lawrence - F 7 Javarris Williams - F 7 Jake O'Connell - D 7 Ryan Succop - C |
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Some of you guys are rough.. Like Eric Berry for instance, I still give that an A.. He's been disappointing this year, but he seems to of improved big time the last couple games. Hope we get a d-coordinator that plays him like he should be
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2012
1. Dontari Poe - C 2. Jeff Allen - C 3. Donald Stephenson - D 4. Devon Wylie - D 5. DeQuan Menzie - D 6. Cyrus Gray - D 7. Jerome Long - F 7. Junior Hemingway - F 2011 1. Jonathan Baldwin - F 2. Rodney Hudson - C 3. Justin Houston - A 3. Allen Bailey - C 4. Jalil Brown - D 5. Ricky Stanzi - F 5. Gabe Miller - F 6. Jerrell Powe - C 7. Shane Bannon - F 2010 1 Eric Berry - B 2 Dexter McCluster - C+ 2 Javier Arenas - D 3 Jon Asamoah - B 3 Tony Moeaki - C 5 Kendrick Lewis - C+ 5 Cameron Sheffield - D- 2009 1 Tyson Jackson - F 2. Matt Cassel- F 3 Alex Magee - F 4 Donald Washington - F 5 Colin Brown - F 6 Quinten Lawrence - F 7 Javarris Williams - F 7 Jake O'Connell - F 7 Ryan Succop - B 2009 has to be the worst draft I have ever seen. |
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A = homerun, B = above average starter, C = meh, average starter/borderline backup, D = backup, F = why the **** are you on the team?, I = too early/unfair to grade
2012 - I 2011 1. Jonathan Baldwin - I (can't give a guy a grade who relies on an F and doesn't look his way.) 2. Rodney Hudson - B 3. Justin Houston - A 3. Allen Bailey - D 4. Jalil Brown - F 5. Ricky Stanzi - F 5. Gabe Miller - F 6. Jerrell Powe - D 7. Shane Bannon - F 2010 1 Eric Berry - B 2 Dexter McCluster - C 2 Javier Arenas - D 3 Jon Asamoah - B 3 Tony Moeaki - C 5 Kendrick Lewis - C 5 Cameron Sheffield - F 2009 1 Tyson Jackson - F 2. **** You Pioli - F 3 Alex Magee - F 4 Donald Washington - F 5 Colin Brown - F 6 Quinten Lawrence - F 7 Javarris Williams - F 7 Jake O'Connell - F 7 Ryan Succop - B |
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I am not going to argue against the Chiefs taking a chance at a QB, especially one who fell below where he probably should have. The 5th round was a terrific value for Stanzi. You expect that a 5th round QB is going to have high bust potential. It was a great pick, even if it didn't pan out (and we're assuming it didn't pan out, by the way, based on some preseason struggles). |
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2012
1. Dontari Poe - D (good player but needed a QB here) 2. Jeff Allen - C 3. Donald Stephenson - C 4. Devon Wylie - F (Reach) 5. DeQuan Menzie - D 6. Cyrus Gray - D 7. Jerome Long - F 7. Junior Hemingway - F 2011 1. Jonathan Baldwin - C 2. Rodney Hudson - A 3. Justin Houston - A 3. Allen Bailey - D 4. Jalil Brown - C 5. Ricky Stanzi - B Good value 5. Gabe Miller - F 6. Jerrell Powe - B 7. Shane Bannon - F 2010 1 Eric Berry - A 2 Dexter McCluster - F 2 Javier Arenas - D 3 Jon Asamoah - B 3 Tony Moeaki - C 5 Kendrick Lewis - B 5 Cameron Sheffield - F 2009 1 Tyson Jackson - F 2. **** You Pioli 3 Alex Magee - F 4 Donald Washington - F 5 Colin Brown - F 6 Quinten Lawrence - F 7 Javarris Williams - F 7 Jake O'Connell - F 7 Ryan Succop - A Pioli waisted our entire 2009 draft. **** you Pioli. |
2012 INCOMPLETE--But so far, I only like Poe.
1. Dontari Poe 2. Jeff Allen 3. Donald Stephenson 4. Devon Wylie 5. DeQuan Menzie 6. Cyrus Gray 7. Jerome Long 7. Junior Hemingway 2011 1. Jonathan Baldwin -F, but hard to evaluate with crapastic QB 2. Rodney Hudson -D 3. Justin Houston -A+, but they are using him wrong. Needs to rush passer more 3. Allen Bailey -A. The best DE on the roster with two former top 5 picks. 4. Jalil Brown - C- 5. Ricky Stanzi - F. Couldn't beat out Palko last year. Can't beat out Cassel and Quinn this year 5. Gabe Miller - F 6. Jerrell Powe - B. In his limited time this year I have been impressed. I think he could be a starter if it wasn't for Poe. 7. Shane Bannon -F 2010 1 Eric Berry -B- Struggled for handful of games. Then became probowl level SS. Injured for year on cheap shot. REALLY struggled this year but over the last 3 games he's been very good. 2 Dexter McCluster -F-----. Hate him. Hated the pick. Hate the player now. Terrible drop rate. Caused a few INT's with his propensity to tip the ball up to the DB's 2 Javier Arenas -D. Just not that good. Terrible spot to draft a NOT THAT GOOD DB that can't take the ball to the house as a returner. 3 Jon Asamoah -C 3 Tony Moeaki -C. Draft an injury prone TE in college and what do you expect. Very good 1st year. Injured second. Bad 3rd year. 5 Kendrick Lewis - D. I'm sorry to the Kendrick Lewis fans but he's a terrible tackler and he makes some plays on the ball but he gives up a lot too. Injury prone. 5 Cameron Sheffield -F 2009 1 Tyson Jackson - F----- Worst 1st round pick I've seen in a long time for the Chiefs 2 Cassel. F-----Worst QB in the league. 3 Alex Magee - F 4 Donald Washington F 5 Colin Brown F 6 Quinten Lawrence F 7 Javarris Williams F 7 Jake O'Connell F 7 Ryan Succop C. I like him. Think he's a good kicker. But should have never had to draft a kicker here if you'd resign your quality players. It will be nice to destroy Pioli's supposed "strength" when it comes to the draft piece by piece.[/QUOTE] |
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2009 is one of the worst draft's in nfl history
to have the 3rd pick in every round and draft F+++ with every single ****ing pick (except for the last one) is mind destroying... |
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JFC, I will never get over how ****ing horrific the 2009 draft was.
I don't know if a person could do that bad if they were trying to screw up. |
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2012
1. Dontari Poe C 2. Jeff Allen D 3. Donald Stephenson D 4. Devon Wylie D 5. DeQuan Menzie F 6. Cyrus Gray D 7. Jerome Long F 7. Junior Hemingway F 2011 1. Jonathan Baldwin D 2. Rodney Hudson C 3. Justin Houston A 3. Allen Bailey C- 4. Jalil Brown C- 5. Ricky Stanzi F 5. Gabe Miller F 6. Jerrell Powe B 7. Shane Bannon F 2010 1 Eric Berry B- 2 Dexter McCluster F 2 Javier Arenas C- 3 Jon Asamoah B 3 Tony Moeaki D- 5 Kendrick Lewis C+ 5 Cameron Sheffield F 2009 1 Tyson Jackson F 2. **** You Pioli LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL 3 Alex Magee F 4 Donald Washington F 5 Colin Brown F 6 Quinten Lawrence F 7 Javarris Williams F 7 Jake O'Connell F 7 Ryan Succop B+ |
Houston.
Berry is marginal. Everyone else is a complete bag of ****ing shit, and, collectively, they more than justify Pioli's dismissal, assuming Clark is done watching soccer. |
im starting to think Baldwin is a worse first round pick than Jackson all things considered. And that is sad
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You're just being a hater if you don't give the Asamoah pick an A.
He's a good starter at RG. From the third round. Great pick. |
I can't believe all of the idiots giving a "B" grade or lower to Eric Berry.
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The Jeff Allen pick is in no way anything but an F at this point. He is disgusting.
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Damn, no wonder why this team is shit
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2012
1. Dontari Poe B 2. Jeff Allen B- 3. Donald Stephenson C 4. Devon Wylie C 5. DeQuan Menzie Inc 6. Cyrus Gray Inc 7. Jerome Long Who? 7. Junior Hemingway Who? 2011 1. Jonathan Baldwin C 2. Rodney Hudson C 3. Justin Houston A 3. Allen Bailey B 4. Jalil Brown C- 5. Ricky Stanzi F 5. Gabe Miller Who? 6. Jerrell Powe C+ 7. Shane Bannon F 2010 1 Eric Berry B+ 2 Dexter McCluster C+ 2 Javier Arenas C+ 3 Jon Asamoah B+ 3 Tony Moeaki B- 5 Kendrick Lewis C 5 Cameron Sheffield F 2009 1 Tyson Jackson F- 2. **** You Pioli FFFF---- 3 Alex Magee Inc 4 Donald Washington C- 5 Colin Brown F 6 Quinten Lawrence Who? 7 Javarris Williams Who? 7 Jake O'Connell D 7 Ryan Succop C |
How the **** is Donald Washington anything but an F?
He's not even on the roster. |
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