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Mr. Laz 01-10-2013 01:21 PM

Who is mentally tougher?
 
One of the biggest transition for a College QB is the mental toughness it takes to succeed to the NFL.

which draftee is 'mentally tougher'?


who handles defense pressure better?
who handles adversity better?
who handles leadership issues etc?
who handles off-the-field issues best?
*insert whatever mental discipline and toughness issues here*

Reerun_KC 01-10-2013 01:23 PM

what are we basing this on?

Mr. Laz 01-10-2013 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9303267)
what are we basing this on?

umm ... their college career?

listopencil 01-10-2013 01:32 PM

Did any of them mindrape the other team so hard that every female member of their student body became impregnated? No? Then they're all just varying degrees of mental pussy. The poll is flawed.

listopencil 01-10-2013 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9303296)
Did any of them mindrape the other team so hard that every female member of their student body became impregnated? No? Then they're all just varying degrees of mental pussy. The poll is flawed.


Your pole is flawed.

listopencil 01-10-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9303297)
Your pole is flawed.


That's what she said.

listopencil 01-10-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9303299)
That's what she said.

Gaz.

suds79 01-10-2013 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9303299)
That's what she said.

:LOL:

I don't know how any of us could realistically know the answer to this one.

BigCatDaddy 01-10-2013 01:35 PM

Wilson was put in more of a difficult situation and seemed to respond well.

Nirvana58 01-10-2013 01:38 PM

With everything he went through his senior season and still came out as one of the top quarterbacks. It has to be Wilson. Ill go on record saying that kid is going to be good in the nfl barring injuries

Thig Lyfe 01-10-2013 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9303267)
what are we basing this on?

Skin color, probably.

cyborgtable 01-10-2013 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nirvana58 (Post 9303317)
With everything he went through his senior season and still came out as one of the top quarterbacks. It has to be Wilson. Ill go record saying that kid is going to be good in the nfl barring injuries

I concur with this

Chief Roundup 01-10-2013 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9303259)
One of the biggest transition for a College QB is the mental toughness it takes to succeed to the NFL.

which draftee is 'mentally tougher'?


who handles defense pressure better?
who handles adversity better?
who handles leadership issues etc?
who handles off-the-field issues best?
*insert whatever mental discipline and toughness issues here*

I picked Wilson.
I have seen him stand in the pocket, looking right down the barrel, knowing he was going to take a big hit and complete the pass over and over.
He handled the change at HC with all that drama that came with the Petrino fiasco, and still played at a high level inspite of his new HC incompetence.
He has taken blame for bad play when it was not all on him. I have seen him verbally command more of his team and get it.
I don't know of any off the field issues.

Saulbadguy 01-10-2013 01:55 PM

good god.

Canofbier 01-10-2013 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9303345)
I picked Wilson.
I have seen him stand in the pocket, looking right down the barrel, knowing he was going to take a big hit and complete the pass over and over.
He handled the change at HC with all that drama that came with the Petrino fiasco, and still played at a high level inspite of his new HC incompetence.
He has taken blame for bad play when it was not all on him. I have seen him verbally command more of his team and get it.
I don't know of any off the field issues.

Yep, pretty much this.

WV 01-10-2013 01:59 PM

I'm voting for which ever one has more scary assault rifles!

Deberg_1990 01-10-2013 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9303259)
One of the biggest transition for a College QB is the mental toughness it takes to succeed to the NFL.

which draftee is 'mentally tougher'?


who handles defense pressure better?
who handles adversity better?
who handles leadership issues etc?
who handles off-the-field issues best?
*insert whatever mental discipline and toughness issues here*

If i knew the answer to this question, id be a very rich man.

Thig Lyfe 01-10-2013 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WV (Post 9303360)
I'm voting for which ever one has more scary assault rifles!

The more guns you own, the saner you are!

HolyHat 01-10-2013 02:38 PM

Oh Fun! Another Poll about Geno Smith? I choose Geno...again...everytime

Nirvana58 01-10-2013 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9303446)
Oh Fun! Another Poll about Geno Smith? I choose Geno...again...everytime

So for everybody picking Geno... Is there reasons why or is it just because he is Geno Smith and this board is upsessed with him. Wilson has made chicken salad out of chicken shit this year and is the undeniable leader of his team. Coming to play every week while getting murdered by his offensive line. Geno hasn't had much adversity and didn't responded well when things weren't going well this year IMO. (I personally don't think my quarterback throwing a fit on the sidelines inspires the team aka. K-State game or throwing up a blood sign and yelling obscenities at Texas fans screams mental toughness)

Nightfyre 01-10-2013 03:10 PM

I would say this is a pretty difficult aspect to assess given our limited perspective.

DJ's left nut 01-10-2013 03:10 PM

Geno's my favorite QB in the draft, but that's not the question.

The only guy who really got put through the fire this season was Wilson. Arkansas had a hellish 9 months and Wilson got stronger as the year progressed.

Right now, as we speak, Wilson has deeper callouses because of more labor in this regard.

wazu 01-10-2013 03:18 PM

Haha somebody voted Barkley.

Chief Roundup 01-10-2013 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nirvana58 (Post 9303513)
So for everybody picking Geno... Is there reasons why or is it just because he is Geno Smith and this board is upsessed with him. Wilson has made chicken salad out of chicken shit this year and is the undeniable leader of his team. Coming to play every week while getting murdered by his offensive line. Geno hasn't had much adversity and didn't responded well when things weren't going well this year IMO. (I personally don't think my quarterback throwing a fit on the sidelines inspires the team aka. K-State game or throwing up a blood sign and yelling obscenities at Texas fans screams mental toughness)

I have heard a lot of this stuff being said on the web. So I am starting to think where there is smoke... But I sure would like to see it first hand. I haven't seen a link to where he has acted or reacted in this manner.

Nirvana58 01-10-2013 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9303520)
I would say this is a pretty difficult aspect to assess given our limited perspective.

I agree completely.. However, with our limited viewing sample I would expect Wilson to be the clear favorite on a mental toughness standpoint. I want the best quarterback and want to look at the positives and negatives of the 2 top QB prospects. Instead of hearing the ball washing Geno gets on about every single post on the planet.

Chief Roundup 01-10-2013 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 9303538)
Haha somebody voted Barkley.

Probably ChiefsCountry or one of the other USC homers.

htismaqe 01-10-2013 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9303548)
Probably ChiefsCountry or one of the other USC homers.

It's a public poll. There's no need to speculate considering you can just look for yourself.

Chief Roundup 01-10-2013 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9303559)
It's a public poll. There's no need to speculate considering you can just look for yourself.

I would be curious to see their reasons for that pick.

Chiefnj2 01-10-2013 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9303543)
I have heard a lot of this stuff being said on the web. So I am starting to think where there is smoke... But I sure would like to see it first hand. I haven't seen a link to where he has acted or reacted in this manner.

There was a video of him fighting with a tarp on the sideline.

Chiefnj2 01-10-2013 03:35 PM

1. Wilson
2. Barkley
3. Smith
4. Bray (if you consider smashing someone's windshield to be an acceptable manner in which to handle off field incidents).

Chief Roundup 01-10-2013 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9303581)
There was a video of him fighting with a tarp on the sideline.

what....link?
Did the tarp win? lol

tomahawk 01-10-2013 03:49 PM

Wilson, he got nailed time and time again but kept coming back against sec defenses. He had nothing for a O-line.

Chiefnj2 01-10-2013 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9303587)
what....link?
Did the tarp win? lol

still photo
http://funwithsports.blogspot.com/20...-thru-3rd.html

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ChiefsCountry 01-10-2013 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9303548)
Probably ChiefsCountry or one of the other USC homers.

Yeah I'm USC homer. **** off you worthless bundle of sticks.

Chief Roundup 01-10-2013 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9303639)
Yeah I'm USC homer. **** off you worthless pillowbitergot.

Yup there it is. Nothing wrong with being a homer. Good luck with that.

ChiefsCountry 01-10-2013 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9303661)
Yup there it is. Nothing wrong with being a homer. Good luck with that.

I don't even like USC you douche. Never have been a fan of that school you stupid ****er.

Chief Roundup 01-10-2013 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9303683)
I don't even like USC you douche. Never have been a fan of that school you stupid ****er.

No shit man.
Sorry I thought you knew I was just messin around because I know you like Barkley from other arguments we have had on here in the past. I wasn't trying to get personal but I see that you have decided to go there and show how weak you are to have to go to insults immediately and then continue.

RealSNR 01-10-2013 04:31 PM

He slapped a piece of tarp?

Seriously? Are you ****ing serious?

Are you jokers ****ing kidding me?

He slapped a piece of tarp when his team was getting blown out, and that means he can't handle adversity?

Good.

****ing.

Christ.

Chiefnj2 01-10-2013 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9303706)
He slapped a piece of tarp?

Seriously? Are you ****ing serious?

Are you jokers ****ing kidding me?

He slapped a piece of tarp when his team was getting blown out, and that means he can't handle adversity?

Good.

****ing.

Christ.

He loses his composure when the O doesn't play well. Same thing against Syracuse.

RealSNR 01-10-2013 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9303710)
He loses his composure when the O doesn't play well. Same thing against Syracuse.

By slapping tarp. :spock:

BlackHelicopters 01-10-2013 04:42 PM

What is the gauge of mental toughness?

Chief Roundup 01-10-2013 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9303724)
By slapping tarp. :spock:

Yeah that kind of shit is so minor....some would probably see that to be a positive.
How many players slam their helmets to the grounds or show emotion when they make a mistake or something bad happens for whatever reason. You just don't want to see it happening very often or then you might be concerned about his control of his emotions.

O.city 01-10-2013 04:57 PM

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Yep, gets frustrated when things don't go his way, too big of a baby. No thanks.

O.city 01-10-2013 04:59 PM

Chiefs fans literally look at every negative thing they can about a QB to justify not drafting him.

Craziest shit.

RealSNR 01-10-2013 05:02 PM

Look, you can make a very convincing argument that Tyler Wilson is the more mentally tough QB.

He's had injuries. The big hits in games. The outside pressure surrounding the coaching. He's had a much longer list of things challenging him to begin the season and has come out of it looking pretty good.

But don't give me this bullshit that Geno slapping a tarp shows he lacks any degree of mental toughness. Find me some other piece of evidence, but tarp?

**** that.

Mr. Laz 01-10-2013 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9303812)
Chiefs fans literally look at every negative thing they can about a QB to justify not drafting him.

Craziest shit.

actually this thread is about 'which' quarterback but don't let that get in the way of your constant crying.

Nightfyre 01-10-2013 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9303826)
actually this thread is about 'which' quarterback but don't let that get in the way of your constant crying.

O City doesn't cry nearly as much as Mrs. Laz, imo.

Mr. Laz 01-10-2013 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9303830)
O City doesn't cry nearly as much as Mrs. Laz, imo.

does O.city give you a reach around to go with the blowjob?

Nightfyre 01-10-2013 05:11 PM

That doesn't even make sense.

Chief Roundup 01-10-2013 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9303820)
Look, you can make a very convincing argument that Tyler Wilson is the more mentally tough QB.

He's had injuries. The big hits in games. The outside pressure surrounding the coaching. He's had a much longer list of things challenging him to begin the season and has come out of it looking pretty good.

But don't give me this bullshit that Geno slapping a tarp shows he lacks any degree of mental toughness. Find me some other piece of evidence, but tarp?

**** that.

On the other side of the tarp.
I was seriously looking forward to your responses about Geno concerning each of the points in the OP. I know you have been leading the Geno charge so I am sure you have watched a lot of video on him as well as games and such. Your input on those points would be great without having to dig through the Geno thread.

htismaqe 01-10-2013 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9303710)
He loses his composure when the O doesn't play well. Same thing against Syracuse.

This.

However, he doesn't take it out on his teammates, he takes it out on himself.

He's not Jay Culter or Phillip Rivers.

HolyHat 01-10-2013 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9303918)
This.

However, he doesn't take it out on his teammates, he takes it out on himself.

He's not Jay Culter or Phillip Rivers.

That's Mrs. Phillis Rivers to you pal

Chiefnj2 01-10-2013 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9303918)
This.

However, he doesn't take it out on his teammates, he takes it out on himself.

He's not Jay Culter or Phillip Rivers.

Nothing wrong with getting angry as long as you can channel it and not let it get the best of you. When Geno was flustrated (thanks Herm) he didn't pull it together on the field and that is a legitimate concern.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-10-2013 06:20 PM

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HolyHat 01-10-2013 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9303992)
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That's a clown question bro

Mr_Tomahawk 01-10-2013 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9303999)
That's a clown question bro


Probably how guys like Luck and RG3 would have answered it. Right...brah?

Nirvana58 01-10-2013 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9303706)
He slapped a piece of tarp?

Seriously? Are you ****ing serious?

Are you jokers ****ing kidding me?

He slapped a piece of tarp when his team was getting blown out, and that means he can't handle adversity?

Good.

****ing.

Christ.

It's been awhile since the k-state game but I remember him doing more than slapping a tarp. He was kind of throwing a fit on the sidelines while they were still in the game. When your quarterback loses composure it doesn't really inspire confidence from your team

Chiefshrink 01-10-2013 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9303522)
Geno's my favorite QB in the draft, but that's not the question.

The only guy who really got put through the fire this season was Wilson. Arkansas had a hellish 9 months and Wilson got stronger as the year progressed.

Right now, as we speak, Wilson has deeper callouses because of more labor in this regard.

This !!!

Setsuna 01-10-2013 06:39 PM

Wilson is a punk. Why the heck is Bray not an option? Poll fail! :harumph:

Mr_Tomahawk 01-10-2013 09:09 PM

Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71
Crossing my fingers @NFLosophy checks out Tyler Wilson next. Toughest QB I've watched play.

ClevelandBronco 01-10-2013 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9303992)
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Ryan Leaf, anyone?

hometeam 01-10-2013 11:44 PM

I like Geno in the mental toughness department. He has great pocket presence and knows whats going on around him. I had to vote for Wilson though. I think its clear that he isn't worried about the chaos around him as he lets go ball after ball at the last absolute moment so he can take a big hit in the pocket.


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