The worst tackler among KC DBs wasn't Sabby...
 

It's Kendrick Lewis! ROFL

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...fensive-backs/

http://i.imgur.com/RejPH.jpg

Notice 3 Chiefs on this... Or ex-Chiefs

Playing with a hurt Shoulder will do that.

the fact that we have 3 players on that list makes me ill

i said this exact thing without that chart last season just by watching the games and I got ****ing crapped on in this place.

if you go back in watch the dude takes bad angles and he has a very low motor, he stops trying a lot, and that attributes to many missed opportunities.

Lewis will be fine once Berry gets back on the field.

The fact that we had 3 of the top 15 and two of them aren't here anymore says a lot. The difference for Lewis and the other two is he can actually cover someone.

LMAO

I know Lewis isn't the surest tackler, but I'm curious if his 2010 numbers were better/worse/the same

I'm not going postal just yet. He was injured and playing alongside dog poop last season. Plus he's only entering his 3rd year in the league. He has yet to reach his true potential as an NFL safety.

8 missed tackles in 802 snaps in 2010.

12 missed tackles in 987 snaps in 2011.

Clearly, another one of Pioli's players who is "developing."

He did have 3 missed tackles in his very first game.

I didn't realize he was already 26. Hm.

3 in his first game of 2011, too. ROFL

I wanted us to draft Brandon Taylor and Jerron McMillian not only because I perceived a weakness behind our starters, but also because I thought Lewis needed a swift kick in the backside. I figured our GM who values "competition" would have made a wise pick like that in the draft.

Instead we have another "tweener". But at least he's one of the surest tacklers at defensive back in the draft.

SD got Taylor 1 spot in front of us. It was well known that we had interest in him. It's not like we completely ignored the possibility of him. Pioli just got beat at the mental game of the draft.

He's the typical SEC safety that plays for highlight interceptions instead of fundamental positioning and play.

Yeah. And I'm not shitting on the Menzie pick at all. I think he'll be a good player. I just think we needed a good, hardy, permanent backup at safety rather than a guy who will play some corner, some safety, but mostly be a special teamer.

I hope Romeo has bigger plans for Menzie at safety than he's letting on in interviews.

Never been a big fan of Lewis. His memorable plays mostly seem like average center fielder plays that every safety makes.

I do wonder how much our use of a 3 safety set plays into getting so many guys on the list though.

Keep doubting Neiko Thorpe, hater! Seriously, the chargers sniping brandon taylor one pick ahead of us was just rude.

How many of Sabby's tackles were from catches allowed?

Not anymore we don't.

FTR, I do have Thorpe targeted as making the 53-man roster. :)

I think Brandon Taylor was going to be our pick in round 3. I think that pick threw off the rest of the draft for the Chiefs.

Ugh. I don't mind Donald Stephenson, but I DO mind reaching on him in the third round. That dude would have totally been available in the 5th.

Stupid Chargers.

None. It's a tackling efficiency list. Not just total missed tackles.

Well, numbers don't lie, but I DO like Lewis. I recall him making a number of good tackles up around the line, and he has a good nose for the ball, makes good breaks, and seems to anticipate well. Just my take, but I don't see him as a liability on the D.

The reality is, because Poe is an unknown at this point, Kendrick Lewis is the weakest starting link on our defense right now. We could possibly say Routt, because he can be beaten in coverage fairly easily, but Lewis doesn't offer much. And that isn't a total knock on him. This is a solid defense with tons of talent.

And all the haters come out.

a ton of people around here just love Lewis ... LOVE HIM.

:shrug:


so far Lewis is just barely at starter level imo. The only thing he does well is the easiest part of his job ... sit in centerfield and step in front of bad throws over the middle.

tackling - below meh
range - meh
hands - solid
ball hawking - good
coverage skills - teh suck
physical present - meh (no fear,no intimidation. yes, i know he's not a SS)
leadership - dunno
teammate - apparently he is a good team guy


SO FAR ... Lewis is just a guy who we should look to replace/improve whenever we can. I don't wanna hear this BS about you can't be a pro bowl at every position. You continually work to improve everywhere and unless Lewis improves he is a candidate for replacement. imo

You're a homer if you think Kendrick Lewis is anything but a pretty pedestrian NFL safety right now.

Dumbass he was playing hurt all last year.

So was Tamba Hali in 2010. Excuses are like assholes.

i don't hate Lewis at all ... don't have any reason to hate him.

just haven't seen anything special about him.

Lewis ... Page ... Pollard

meh

if Lewis doesn't dramatically improve in run support i doubt he should be starting at all. His lack of range in the passing game means he can't be considered a 'passing specialist'. He needs to be solid at everything because he's not great at anything. JMO

This is why you guys can't have nice things like a real QB. People have no patience. A 5th round pick who has started for only 1 1/2 years, and people bitch, moan and complain. Give him some time to develop.

This

No reason he can't get better.

Good that people are recognizing he's pretty meh, though.

Enough homer BS around here this offseason.

I agree he needs more time to develop, but like you said...he's a 5th round pick. We can upgrade over Lewis. He's not a bad player, but he's not great, either.

I think the Chiefs wanted to replace him earlier in the draft and got hosed first by Tampa Bay and then by San Diego. Hopefully, Poe and Stephenson end up working out. But I think the plan is for Lewis to be the third guy coming in.

if he improves ... fine

so far he's been 'just a guy'

btw Lewis is not going to get any faster so his range is about as good as it's ever going to get. He is always going to struggle helping the CB's out in coverage ... he's too slow.

He's pretty much always going to be a center fielder type guy

What is worse a homer or Fair Weather Fan like you?

If Sabby were faster, he would be number 1 hands down.

:rolleyes:

Apparently you don't know the definition of "fairweather fan."

Pioli told me competition makes players better and it makes the team better.

We now have competition out the asshole at WR, offensive line, RB, CB, backup QB, and backup DE.

The positions at which we most needed competition going into this season were starting QB, backup OLB, backup safety, and offensive line.

I've been told it's a process.

I got told I was a fool a few times when I was campaigning for Mark Barron as our first rounder because I said Lewis is a bad tackler and is basically Jerrod Page.

I was right.

As usual.

Barron is gonna be a Pro bowl safety.

COME AT ME, PLANET.

No, you're more of a geek fan posing as a malcontent.

Posing?

POSING??!? ROFLROFLROFL

Why would anyone need to pose as a malcontent...there's no contentedness to being a fan of this team.

Okay. Play acting, or making believe? Imagineering?

You think I'm faking this shit?

**** off.

Wow Chiefs fans are so critical of their own players sometimes. I thought it was well known that K. Lewis is a poor tackler. But the guy is quite good in coverage and in today's pass-heavy game, I'd much rather have a very good coverage safety that is poor in run support than a Yeremiah Bell for example, whom is good in run support but poor in coverage.

Add in the fact that we have a great tackler next to Lewis in Berry and definitly, Berry and Lewis form a great safety tandem.

Ryan Van Bibber of SBNation ranked our tandem 5th best in the NFL 5 days ago and remember that it's an up and coming tandem: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/7/4...s-nfl-safeties

man I thought that was Tyson Jackson at #1, I was like **** THAT DUDE at first

Kendrick Lewis has been good in coverage and most fans agree he was missed when he was out with an injury.

Alright. It's all real. Thanks for telling it like it is for all the homers that can't see through Fatoli's bulls***. Keep on keepin' on.

yea but we could have drafted guys like Kam Chancellor and everyones talking about Brandon Taylor and we didnt. Again, missed opportunities to upgrade.

Irony.

What else is new? Including the worst troll of all time.

Your martyrdom knows no bounds.

You are trying to do a cheap imitation of Dane McJenkins. It's kind of sad and funny at the same time.

Huh?

Hopefully with EB back, he will just have to play CF and try and create turnovers.


In that situation we don't need him to tackle that much.



That said, I'm big on the kid from Auburn back there. With him and the kid we just drafted from bama, maybe we get lucky.

He was on the field for 800 snaps as a rookie.

He's gonna have to make tackles.

I'm still a backer. I'm not saying he's perfect but I think his future's bright...

Oh he's gonna have to make tackles, or atleast slow someone down.


Just thinking that with EB back on the field, hopefully it won't happen as much.

I got rid of all of them except our young rising FS.

He'll look a lot better with EB back. I'm not worried about Lewis.

This. It's not rocket science.

Or you have the OP:

Lets look at everything as it is in a vacuum and make all assumptions based on that. Smart move. :rolleyes:

His coverage has been spotty, but that's not surprising considering he was drafted in the 5th. I would like to see his numbers throughout the season. He seems to be progressing. I don't think his ceiling is very high, but he'll be plenty serviceable.

the he will look better when Berry back argument is void. That chart is reflective also of his snaps and + stats playing with Eric Berry as well as last year with McGraw/Sabby.

So yeah. He is what he is

He's a decent role player or at least can develop into one. You can't have all pro bwlers and expect to keep them all. You need some solid guys in there and I think he can be that.

And while playing next to Eric Berry in 2010, he wasn't too bad. Minus the 3 missed tackles in his first professional game ever, in a torrential downpour mind you, he missed 1 tackle every 3 games as a rookie.

Not going to do the math, but based on the numbers provided, his tackling wasn't any better his rookie year than they were his second season.

His poor tackling wasn't as obvious or noticable when playing beside Berry as it was when playing beside Sabby, but the fact remains that he is a poor tackler.

K.Lewis is a very replaceable starter, we just don't have anybody that offers more right now. Perhaps someone in TC will surprise, but I expect Lewis will start all year if healthy.

And I'm still pissed the chargers stole b.taylor from us!

The guy is very solid for a player entering his 3rd year. Just like Belcher there is absolutely nothing wrong with having him as a starter right now. If he doesn't show growth this year....sure bitch on. Good chance for him to step up this year.

****ing Maddenization of the NFL fan bases. GOTS TO HAVE ALL 99's!!!!