First pick all tied up?
 

We either need to lose or Jacksonville needs to win in order for us to have the first pick of the draft. I'm pretty sure we have a great chance of losing to Denver, but in the event a miracle happens, do you think Jacksonville stands a chance against Tennessee? Or do we have this thing all tied up?

Let's say we win and Jacksonville loses. Do you think they'd trade with the Jets for Tebow? If so, do you think they'd give up the first pick? Jets are pretty much in need of a QB too. Lot of teams in need, and so little to pick from this year.

Yes, Jax can beat Tenn.

We aren't winning. However, if Jax is smart, they know they don't need to trade with NY for Tebow, the Jets obviously aren't interested in keeping him. I also think they can beat the Titans, and I don't think we have a chance against a Broncos team that has tons to play for on Sunday and has won 10 someodd games in a row.

No one will give more than a 7th for Tebow if that.

Yeah, thought a little more about that. Tebow isn't worth a high draft pick. I wonder if the Jets would try for it anyway.

Anyway, I think we've got this tied up. I'd ask for opinions on what we do with that pick, but there are plenty of other threads on that subject.

With a red (and yellow) Bowe.

First we need to secure the top pick with a loss. If Jags end up with it they are in total control and we would have to see what they do with it. They will not trade less than a fourth for Tebow. He is pretty much just going be in the mix with who they draft at qb if they take Geno with the top pick I am going be PISSED.

We lose. We get #1

We win. We get #2

If Jacksonville wins we get #1.

Everyone is still assuming the Chiefs will even draft Geno. Thats what I'm worried about.

Whoever our next GM deems as the best QB in the draft is who I believe we should draft. Everyone else however will say "Geno Smith or **** this team with an AIDS fork". And while he's my top choice as well, I'll trust our next GM to nail that one down.

The Jags have a chance ... However, I have a feeling both the Jags and the Chiefs will be sitting at the end of the year with two wins.

Personally I am expecting to be pissed that we pass on Geno Smith. I am just expressing my desire to get him with our top pick & do what I can in hopes that the word gets out Geno is worth the top pick of the draft for Kansas City Chiefs.

I think Tebow is going to Jax, but they're not going to give up the #1 or 2 pick to the Jets for him.

For me to remain a fan, we MUST take a QB.

I would prefer it to be Geno Smith, but that part is negotiable.

Taking a QB is not.

I'm sure the new GM will take your thoughts into consideration.

I think you take a shot at a couple of quarterbacks in the draft. With the position they will be selecting in you might find a gem. I am not a big fan of the reach this organizations drafts are built on but I am a big fan of BPA.

The Jags have a better chance of beating the Titans.....than we do of beating the Broncos.

If we win the top pick by tie-breaker do we retain the top pick of every round or does it flip back and forth? Will we have the first pick of the 2nd round as well?

no, if it's tied then we will flip-flop

The jags get the 1st pick of the 2nd round :cuss:

If we tie......we flip flop every other round.

1st - Chiefs
2nd - Jags
3rd - Chiefs
4th - Jags
etc.

Isn't the NFL draft a snake draft?

That was a good delete, luv.

LMAO Thanks.

I always thought that was how the draft worked. Is it really the same order every round with the exception of trades?

damn. well, the Titans lost by 100 or so last weekend so we have some hope of an outright number 1

nope

last goes first in every round, except for ties who flip-flop

Jags have a decent chance to win against the Titans


as for us, i hope we lose to Denver by a single point and leave Manning with a severely bruised vagina. He can't play in the 1st game of playoff and Denver loses by 80 pts.

ROFL Your last lesson, padowan. Same order. Every round.

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.................Geno Smith

See? I learned something today. :)

Remember when playoff time & scenarios were fun???

We are even safe if the Chiefs and Jax both win. No team has three losses. Next worse is 4 losses.

This is more fun than any playoff scenario we've had in the last 10 years. Maybe even longer if you felt like many of us did that 2003 was smoke and mirrors.

Jax is only a 4 point dog. Denver is favored by 16.

yea, we have the 1st or 2nd pick

the only thing left is who gets the 1st and/or will we end up tied and deal with flip-flop.

If we lose ... we get the 1st
If the jags win ... we get the 1st
If we both win or both lose ... the we get 1st (via tiebreak) but flip-flop each rd
If we win and the jags lose ... the jags get the 1st

In terms of a sports I am a worry worm by nature and the prospect of winning this game isn't remotely near being on my radar. Denver will smoke us. Pioli will be jettisoned thereafter and we will draft a qb. At this point it is a fait accompli.

Just now noticing that Jacksonville plays before we do. Would be nice to lock up #1 overall without having to yell and scream at Jamaal Charles to stop being so damn awesome.

I'm definitely rooting for Jacksonville this weekend.

And denver. And thats tough to say.

Nope. I figure we'll lose without me having to root for Denver.

If Jacksonville wins the early game, I'm rooting for KC. Which I'm sure will matter a lot.

Pretty much. :D

I'm rooting for Houston to rip Mannings head off either way

So a tie is fine with you?

Picking second on Day 2 of the draft is okay with you?

I knew it was smoke and mirrors after the Cincy game, but they sure had me fooled up until that point. That was still the most fun I've had during an NFL season since 98.

Honestly, yeah. It sucks losing 1 spot in the 2nd round, but I don't give a flying **** about the 4th or the 6th. I would sacrifice 1 slot in the 2nd round to possibly cost those ****ers home field, or a bye in the first round. I despise them, and the Raiders. I'm rooting for the Raiders to win to **** their draft slot up. That's the way I was raised, and I revel in it on Sunday's. If that makes me a bad fan, so be it.

Yes, I could live with that. One pick different in rounds 2, 4, and 6 isn't enough to cause me to not enjoy a KC win in Denver that potentially screws their playoff home field options.

I remember posting it after the Green Bay game, or maybe it was right before the Green Bay game.

We had a long discussion that season about Super Bowl defenses and the fact that the 1998 Broncos and 1999 Rams weren't defensive juggernauts.

I posted a thread about the Rams and their defensive yards per rush and how that compared to the Chiefs. Pretty much knew at that point they couldn't win it all...

yep, it'll be nice to pick before them in the snake draft.

The 2nd round starts on its own day.

Having the first pick in the 2nd round gives you a full 12 hours to get ready for that pick.

As for Denver, do you REALLY think homefield matters THAT much, especially when they have Peyton Manning?

As Peter King said, Super Bowl winners are 12-0 on the road.

Homefield is virtually meaningless. I can understand not wanting to see the Broncos win a Super Bowl but them getting homefield advantage or not is COMPLETELY irrelevant as to whether or not they will.

I wasn't around here at the time, but I told my cousin (who is a diehard just doesn't post here) that our defense was exposed and we would lose more games before the playoffs, and would probably be one and done all over again if we faced Manning, and sure as shit we did. He thought I was full of shit, but he's a homer to the 9th degree.

Okay, the second round starting on a new day I was not aware of, so that might sway me.

As for Peyton, though - YES. I had him on my fantasy team. He is much, much better at home.

At the end of the day, there are bragging rights to knocking them out of that slot, and ending a long winning streak. However, that being said, I still think I want them to lose, but it's not draft order nearly as much as hanging a big fat ****ing lose sign on Scott Pioli's head as he packs his shit and gets the **** out of the building.

I ain't even mad at Romeo. I don't blame him 1 bit for this shitfest, because I think he's the foot shuffling porter that Todd Haley refused to be. No big deal. Nice little retirement package for the guy, and I don't think a reasonable person could blame him for taking it.

Scott Pioli however, can die in a ****ing fire for what he's done to this franchise. The executive of the decade wasted almost a half a decade of my fandom. **** him. Lose out, and look like a ****ing clown before you go, ****ing shitsack.

I'll be rooting for Jacksonville in the early game and then laughing while Denver completely rapes us in the afternoon game.

I want that top pick in every round.

It's going to be a REAL kick in the nuts when we have to go to tiebreaker with Jacksonville, get the 2nd pick in the 2nd round and then Denver goes on the road in the playoffs and torches everybody.

Denver, with a win Sunday, will be 13-3.

If you're truly interested in the Broncos NOT winning the Super Bowl, YOU SHOULD WANT THEM TO WIN SUNDAY.

Since 1995, 13-3 AFC teams are 4-10 in that first home game after the bye. Only the 1999 Tennessee Titans and 2011 New England Patriots advanced all the way to the Super Bowl. Both of them lost in the Super Bowl.

Oh, ****. GO BRONCOS!!!! GO JAGS!!!! Done deal for me. LMAO Thanks htis.

FYI, Peyton Manning played in a dome in Indy. He had a career winning percentage at home of like 80%.

Indy, with Manning, finished 13-3 twice. Their record in those 2 home playoff games? 0-2.

It's in the bag. The league will make sure of it even if Charles goes apeshit.

There is no other option. You can't go into the year setting up a competition between Quinn and a 3rd round pick who may or may not be ready.

Dang... the AFCW is such a mess.

Chiefsfans rooting for a loss to get the #1 pick.

Rayderfanz rooting for a loss to get the #3 pick.

Even the Charger board has fans rooting for a loss saying, "If we lose we can get as high as #6! A win puts us between #10 & #13.... GO RAIDERS!!"

Chargers will be out there trying to suck, Raiders will play Pryor trying to suck, Chiefs won't even have to try to suck against the Denver Mannings. We AFCW fans should all wear bags this week...

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I can't ****ing wait for this division to be worth a shit again. When we're all good it's a lot of fun, this rooting for higher picks and for our rivals to whip our asses sucks shit.

That being said, GO BRONCOS!! (this week, in the playoffs you can suck a fat one)

Even the NFC West has a few contenders now.

A few? St. Louis is a .500 team and there's 2 legit SB contenders in SF and Seattle.

Ah, I wasn't counting St. Louis.

So we'll be Romneying?

Ba-zing.

I pretty much feel this way. There are a few QB's I will be upset about having but in the end I am going to give this GM his fair shot. That being said, not taking a QB or getting a retread one is not something I think I can take.

ROFL

We got this

Anybody made a luv bondage joke at the expense if the title yet?

Even if the Chiefs get the first pick, ESPN will make sure they are on a commercial break when the pick is announced. When they return, they will be talking about where Tebow will be traded to.

This

This has got to be the worst year to have the top pick of the draft.

ewwwww ... you're in trouble.

Me too. At this point I feel like our rivals no longer exists. Thanks Scott!

I know everyone is big on Geno Smith, but I still don't think he's worth a first pick. First round, but not first pick. Of course, what else is available? Anyway, getting off topic. GO JAGUARS!

but is Geno Smith worth it in a snake draft?


now that's the real question


:D

I'm not trying to be a jerk here...but what do you know about Geno Smith?? You thought the NFL draft was a snake draft like fantasy.

Three years ago Cam Newton was a 3rd round pick at this time.

Last year RGIII was a "raw" prospect.

Geno will rise just like those two did...for some reason people still have something against the "black" QB. It's ridiculous. Geno's film is ridiculous.

I think Geno is a legit #1 pick. The media hypes this is a bad year to take #1.
All they do is hype Tim Tebow, so what do they know?

you also didn't know that the NFL ****ing draft WASN'T a snake draft. pardon me if I don't trip all over myself freaking out about what your opinion is.

hahaha, repost x3