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Marty Mac Ver 2.0 12-28-2012 12:09 PM

Washington Already Floating Cousin Trade Ransom Demands
 
Just filed to Twittah:

@SaveOurChiefs, WAS has quietly floated idea of 3 picks (2 firsts, 1 mid) for Cousins. Frankly, that's a classic case of "Buy low, sell high" and way 2 much

Dayze 12-28-2012 12:10 PM

lol.

....though I should laugh too hard. He might end up here.

Imon Yourside 12-28-2012 12:11 PM

I would give up a 4th for him.

The Franchise 12-28-2012 12:11 PM

ROFL

Cousins for 2 firsts? The Redskins are out of their minds.

bevischief 12-28-2012 12:12 PM

If the price was right sure better than anything we have on team at this moment. But I still want Geno.

BossChief 12-28-2012 12:12 PM

Anybody wanna get raped?

htismaqe 12-28-2012 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 9245962)
If the price was right sure better than anything we have on team at this moment. But I still want Geno.

No, he isn't.

Dayze 12-28-2012 12:13 PM

mmmm. Rape.

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 12-28-2012 12:14 PM

They wont get this and they know it, but they are not keen on trading Cousins so the ransom demands serves two things.

BossChief 12-28-2012 12:15 PM

If someone came knocking with a first round pick, they would accept it IN A SECOND.

Ceej 12-28-2012 12:15 PM

LAWL GL REDSKINZ!

BlackHelicopters 12-28-2012 12:16 PM

No. Thank you, though.

Easy 6 12-28-2012 12:16 PM

We dont need that ****in guy anyway, casserly says we should just build around Quinn.

htismaqe 12-28-2012 12:17 PM

All the more reason we should given Stanzi a couple of starts.

If Washington can turn this shitstick for picks, we could too.

BigMeatballDave 12-28-2012 12:20 PM

http://pics.drugstore.com/prodimg/80267/220.jpg

Does this come with the deal?

Rain Man 12-28-2012 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9245957)
I would give up a 4th for him.

I think that's about right. Maybe a 3rd, but probably not.

Maybe they should trade RGIII and keep Cousins if he's that valuable. 2 firsts and a mid-round? That's hilarious.

htismaqe 12-28-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9246011)
I think that's about right. Maybe a 3rd, but probably not.

Maybe they should trade RGIII and keep Cousins if he's that valuable. 2 firsts and a mid-round? That's hilarious.

why?!?!?!

We have a guy EXACTLY like him already on the goddamn roster.

BlackHelicopters 12-28-2012 12:26 PM

Washington would be wise to hang onto him as a backup for at least one more season. However, it just takes one stupid GM out of 32 , so someone may pay the price. We have a resident stupid ass in KC, so you never know............

htismaqe 12-28-2012 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9246031)
Washington would be wise to hang onto him as a backup for at least one more season. However, it just takes one stupid GM out of 32 , so someone may pay the price. We have a resident stupid ass in KC, so you never know............

We do?

The GM job is currently vacant...

RealSNR 12-28-2012 12:28 PM

We should be able to get at least ONE 2nd rounder out of Stanzi if that's what the Redskins are asking for their noodle-armed spastic game manager QB from the B1G.

Atrocious ****ing price. **** Cousins. I wouldn't give them a 7th rounder to have him on my team.

htismaqe 12-28-2012 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9246041)
We should be able to get at least ONE 2nd rounder out of Stanzi if that's what the Redskins are asking for their noodle-armed spastic game manager QB from the B1G.

Atrocious ****ing price. **** Cousins. I wouldn't give them a 7th rounder to have him on my team.

:clap::clap::clap:

Frazod 12-28-2012 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9245964)
Anybody wanna get raped?

first in

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Page...-get-raped.jpg

Mojo Jojo 12-28-2012 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9246031)
Washington would be wise to hang onto him as a backup for at least one more season. However, it just takes one stupid GM out of 32 , so someone may pay the price. We have a resident stupid ass in KC, so you never know............

]
Actually you should say one stupid GM out of 31. Redskins aren't trying to trade with themselves.

ROYC75 12-28-2012 12:45 PM

W O W :eek:

People in hell want ice water too !

No Thanks, seriously, do not try to twist my arm!

Stupid Was. FO......stupid.

They are idiots.

BossChief 12-28-2012 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9245986)
All the more reason we should given Stanzi a couple of starts.

If Washington can turn this shitstick for picks, we could too.

They are basically the same player, but Stanzi has a stronger arm.

The Bad Guy 12-28-2012 12:56 PM

If Cousins came out in this draft, he'd be 5th. Smith, Barkley, Wilson and Glennon would all still go ahead of him.

Washington isn't getting that.

Marcellus 12-28-2012 12:59 PM

Classic bargaining. Ask for the moon, people counter offer yada yada. They are trying to set the market sky high and could work their way down to something like a 2nd and a 3rd and would still make out like bandits.

RealSNR 12-28-2012 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9246131)
Classic bargaining. Ask for the moon, people counter offer yada yada. They are trying to set the market sky high and could work their way down to something like a 2nd and a 3rd and would still make out like bandits.

The way RGIII gets his clock cleaned often, they need some kind of solution behind him more than other teams usually have.

If I were the Skins I'd just keep Cousins for awhile.

BossChief 12-28-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9246142)
The way RGIII gets his clock cleaned often, they need some kind of solution behind him more than other teams usually have.

If I were the Skins I'd just keep Cousins for awhile.

If I could get a first or second for him, Id take it and draft another quarterback in the 4th or 5th round.

This is a deep QB class and I think they can get an equally as effective backup in those rounds.

There are probably around 10 draftable quarterbacks (maybe more) this year and a few of them are gonna drop.

The Franchise 12-28-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9246142)
The way RGIII gets his clock cleaned often, they need some kind of solution behind him more than other teams usually have.

If I were the Skins I'd just keep Cousins for awhile.

This. I'd keep Cousins throughout his entire rookie contract.

Mr. Laz 12-28-2012 01:15 PM

If they really thought he was worth that much they wouldn't be trying to trade him at all.

RGIII hasn't proven he can stay healthy yet.


Redskins just trying to hook a chump

TribalElder 12-28-2012 01:17 PM

They realize the draft is coming and they have no picks until like 2019 lol

Discuss Thrower 12-28-2012 01:25 PM

Bite the ****in' pillow; Danny's going in dry.

Skyy God 12-28-2012 01:26 PM

On a related note, queue up the nuthooks.

<b>NFL Rumors: Kyle Shanahan and QB Kirk Cousins a package deal to the Kansas City Chiefs?</b>

Quote:

Last Sunday on NFL Network’s First on the Field pre-game show, Michael Lombardi floated out an interesting possibility regarding Washington Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan. If a team decides to hire Shanahan as a head coach, would Kirk Cousins be part of a package deal? If so, should the Kansas City Chiefs be looking at the possibility?

Shanahan’s name is being mentioned in association with coaching vacancies this year because of the work he has done this season with two rookie quarterbacks, Robert Griffin III and Kirk Cousins. Kyle Shanahan is responsible for the Redskins offense this season and has been doing the play calling, he has had a successful season. Given his lineage, Shanahan should rightfully so be considered for a head coaching position.

Enter the Kansas City Chiefs. Head coach Romeo Crennel and perhaps general manager Scott Pioli are rumored to be on their way out in Kansas City. The Chiefs rallied around Crennel last season after being named the interim head coach after Todd Haley’s dismissal. It seems now that the team was more relieved to be rid of Haley than rallying around Crennel. Crennel is a great defensive coordinator but can’t make the transition to the head coaching position.

It’s time for a fresh start in Kansas City. A new head coach and perhaps a young quarterback to build around for the future. No more Brady Quinn. No more Matt Cassel. No more stop gap measures of adding veterans for one or two fleeting seasons at the end of their career. An actual quarterback for the future.

Why not sign Kyle Shanahan and then trade for Kirk Cousins. Lombardi makes the great point that his father, Mike, is going to want to see his son succeed as a head coach. With Robert Griffin III entrenched as the Redskin’s starter for the forseeable future, Kirk Cousins is a luxury. He is also the vehicle as to which the Redskins could use to recoup some of the draft choices Washington surrendered in order to acquire RG III.

Washington used a fourth-round pick to acquire Cousins last year. Why not surrender a third-round pick this year in order to reunite Cousins with Kyle Shanahan in an offense he already has a season in? Sure, Cousins has just one career start, but he will be immersed in an offense he is very familiar with and can hit the ground running.

Yes, the Chiefs will likely have the first overall selection in the 2013 draft, but there is no surefire can’t miss quarterback prospect in this year’s class. I think the addition of a up and coming head coach prospect along with a young quarterback familiar with his system is the right formula to get the Chiefs back in the win column while building for the future.
http://www.thepigskinreport.com/2012...s-city-chiefs/

SAUTO 12-28-2012 01:33 PM

**** that shit
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RealSNR 12-28-2012 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 9246185)
On a related note, queue up the nuthooks.

<b>NFL Rumors: Kyle Shanahan and QB Kirk Cousins a package deal to the Kansas City Chiefs?</b>



http://www.thepigskinreport.com/2012...s-city-chiefs/

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4...heb4o1_400.gif

TLO 12-28-2012 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9246041)
We should be able to get at least ONE 2nd rounder out of Stanzi if that's what the Redskins are asking for their noodle-armed spastic game manager QB from the B1G.

Atrocious ****ing price. **** Cousins. I wouldn't give them a 7th rounder to have him on my team.

This

Hoover 12-28-2012 01:42 PM

Why would you give away draft picks for a QB when you can draft the best one in the draft if you are KC?

ChiliConCarnage 12-28-2012 01:43 PM

The Skins definitely won't trade Cousins without smushing someone's ahole.

BossChief 12-28-2012 01:55 PM

I got aids after reading that.

DeezNutz 12-28-2012 01:56 PM

If Shanahan wants Cousins, we should trust the former's analysis because no one knows the player better.

LMAO.

Where the **** have we seen this?

BossChief 12-28-2012 02:00 PM

Hey, let me say this...Id be happy with Kyle Shannahan as a head coach hire here. I think he is a brilliant offensive mind that could do well with a player like Geno. Im not giving up anything for Cousins, though.

We already have a stronger armed Cousins on the roster.

siberian khatru 12-28-2012 02:01 PM

So "there is no surefire can’t miss quarterback prospect in this year’s class," yet Cousins is a surefire can't miss QB worth trading for based on ... 1 start and 48 pass attempts?

Imon Yourside 12-28-2012 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 9246185)
On a related note, queue up the nuthooks.

<b>NFL Rumors: Kyle Shanahan and QB Kirk Cousins a package deal to the Kansas City Chiefs?</b>



http://www.thepigskinreport.com/2012...s-city-chiefs/

Ok I was only Joking, was only a hypothetical. I really don't want either of those chumps.

Radar Chief 12-28-2012 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9246246)
So "there is no surefire can’t miss quarterback prospect in this year’s class," yet Cousins is a surefire can't miss QB worth trading for based on ... 1 start and 48 pass attempts?

You have a problem with that? /Matt Flynn

DeezNutz 12-28-2012 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9246244)
We already have a stronger armed Cousins on the roster.

Riiiiiggggghhhhtttt.

SAUTO 12-28-2012 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9246268)
Riiiiiggggghhhhtttt.

350 yards in an actual game disagrees with those guys.

But I don't want to trade for him
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DeezNutz 12-28-2012 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9246274)
350 yards in an actual game disagrees with those guys.

But I don't want to trade for him
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x2.

jd1020 12-28-2012 02:16 PM

Stanzi isn't good enough to suit up on Sundays in his 2nd season but he's a better version of Cousins...

Titty Meat 12-28-2012 02:19 PM

The Stanzi stupidity on this board is ****ing ridiculous.

Easy 6 12-28-2012 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9246244)
Hey, let me say this...Id be happy with Kyle Shannahan as a head coach hire here. I think he is a brilliant offensive mind that could do well with a player like Geno. Im not giving up anything for Cousins, though.

We already have a stronger armed Cousins on the roster.

.

threebag 12-28-2012 02:21 PM

So they want RGIII compensation. Lmao

DeezNutz 12-28-2012 02:23 PM

Many posters believe that Pioli was neutered mid-year. However, RAC, out of blind stupidity and loyalty, is part of the great Stanzi conspiracy of '12.

No ****ing way Stanzi is complete shit. Our eyes lied to us in preseason, and the vast majority of reporters lied to us in St. Joe.

Iowanian 12-28-2012 02:24 PM

This isn't the price...this is the sticker price.

When a serious buyer calls them around the middle of April, I'm guessing he'll go for a 2nd and maybe mid or late round pick.

jd1020 12-28-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9246302)
Many posters believe that Pioli was neutered mid-year. However, RAC, out of blind stupidity and loyalty, is part of the great Stanzi conspiracy of '12.

No ****ing way Stanzi is complete shit. Our eyes lied to us in preseason, and the vast majority of reporters lied to us in St. Joe.

It's a known fact that Pioli is forcing his players on the coaches and he wouldn't know what a good QB looked like if it slapped him in the face.

Stanzi is on the bench because he was drafted by... wait a sec...

In58men 12-28-2012 02:32 PM

I wouldn't give up one first round pick, especially since we'll be sitting at #1 or #2

Dayze 12-28-2012 02:34 PM

this is like having an asking price of $10k for your '85 Fiero because it has low miles.

KCUnited 12-28-2012 02:36 PM

Stanzi is like a long haired Cousin to a lot folks here on CP.

BossChief 12-28-2012 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9246302)
Many posters believe that Pioli was neutered mid-year. However, RAC, out of blind stupidity and loyalty, is part of the great Stanzi conspiracy of '12.

No ****ing way Stanzi is complete shit. Our eyes lied to us in preseason, and the vast majority of reporters lied to us in St. Joe.

There is no doubt that I liked the kid when he played college ball and that plays a part in my opinion of him, but to act like Cousins is a better player than him (solely as a player removed from the coaching situations and opportunity) is just silly.

I love how some of you can completely shit on our coaching staff and ability to evaluate talent, but disregard the possibility that they dont have a clue how to coach quarterbacks or evaluate the position, either.

SAUTO 12-28-2012 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9246340)
There is no doubt that I liked the kid when he played college ball and that plays a part in my opinion of him, but to act like Cousins is a better player than him (solely as a player removed from the coaching situations and opportunity) is just silly.

I love how some of you can completely shit on our coaching staff and ability to evaluate talent, but disregard the possibility that they dont have a clue how to coach quarterbacks or evaluate the position, either.

I would have thought he would have gotten a couple snaps by now
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whoman69 12-28-2012 02:46 PM

This is nothing more than the Skins wanting to get some of their picks back from the RG3 deal. Do they really believe that Cousins is as valuable in trade as RG3 coming into the draft last year based on one game? If that's the case then Matt Flynn should have gotten a $100 million contract from the Seahawks.

DeezNutz 12-28-2012 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9246340)
There is no doubt that I liked the kid when he played college ball and that plays a part in my opinion of him, but to act like Cousins is a better player than him (solely as a player removed from the coaching situations and opportunity) is just silly.

I love how some of you can completely shit on our coaching staff and ability to evaluate talent, but disregard the possibility that they dont have a clue how to coach quarterbacks or evaluate the position, either.

Sorry, I didn't like Stanzi coming out, and I posted last year that Cousins was underrated/valued by this board.

My thoughts on these players have little to do with what they have or have not accomplished in the NFL, though the witness-protection program that Stanzi entered does him no favors.

RINGLEADER 12-28-2012 03:11 PM

Guy plays like a winner but he's still a huge question mark. Getting a couple thirds would be a reach, a couple of firsts is insane.

Swanman 12-28-2012 03:14 PM

Washington wants to get out of Cousins just slightly less than the Broncos got for Cutler. Rrrrriiiigggghhhhtttt.

Hootie 12-28-2012 03:23 PM

Stanzi was horribly inaccurate at the combine throwing 10 yard outs...it was laughable

MMXcalibur 12-28-2012 03:26 PM

Which stupid ass team is going to fork that up for....oh wait, the Chiefs...

htismaqe 12-28-2012 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9246274)
350 yards in an actual game disagrees with those guys.

But I don't want to trade for him
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3 full years at Michigan State vs. 6 whole quarters of NFL football.

Yippie, he's the next Matt ****ing Flynn. Let's trade for him so he can sit on the goddamn bench all next year.

htismaqe 12-28-2012 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9246391)
Stanzi was horribly inaccurate at the combine throwing 10 yard outs...it was laughable

He was also the ONLY guy there that could throw a backshoulder fade at the hash. Marshall Faulk praised him repeatedly.

Let's be fair.

htismaqe 12-28-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9246360)
Sorry, I didn't like Stanzi coming out, and I posted last year that Cousins was underrated/valued by this board.

What did you like about Cousins? Was it the great defense, the overwhelming running game, or maybe it was the 20 TDs per season he averaged.

Kirk Cousins is, and was, OVER-valued by this board.

farmerchief 12-28-2012 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9246391)
Stanzi was horribly inaccurate at the combine throwing 10 yard outs...it was laughable

So THAT is the reason he hasnt gotten any playing time the last few weeks, as our passing offense ONLY has 10 yard outs in the playbook?ROFL

Hootie 12-28-2012 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farmerchief (Post 9246543)
So THAT is the reason he hasnt gotten any playing time the last few weeks, as our passing offense ONLY has 10 yard outs in the playbook?ROFL

that is the toughest route for an NFL QB to throw.

that's the one scouts look at as the "eye test" for a QB

Just saying.

But hey, I was SUPER impressed with Christian Ponder at the combine and he's been pretty terrible so far so wtf do I know?

DeezNutz 12-28-2012 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9246503)
What did you like about Cousins? Was it the great defense, the overwhelming running game, or maybe it was the 20 TDs per season he averaged.

Kirk Cousins is, and was, OVER-valued by this board.

I'm not claiming to be an expert on Stanzi or Cousins. Far from it. But I viewed Stanzi as a mental midget and Cousins as someone who was reasonably responsible and accurate with the football.

FTR, I think I said Cousins would be a solid choice in the 4th or 5th round, so I wasn't exactly his biggest promoter, but I wouldn't have drafted Stanzi at all.

Hootie 12-28-2012 04:46 PM

I think Cousins could be a Trent Green but what do I know?! I'm just a dipshit with a keyboard.

Hoover 12-28-2012 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9246503)
What did you like about Cousins? Was it the great defense, the overwhelming running game, or maybe it was the 20 TDs per season he averaged.

Kirk Cousins is, and was, OVER-valued by this board.

Every player drafted by a team other than the Chiefs is over valued on this board.

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 12-28-2012 04:52 PM

This to me is the biggest reason WHY Stanzi should have started. Let him perform and ship him off for a pick. However, if he won games, we don't have the #1 pick so it's double edged sword.

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9245986)
All the more reason we should given Stanzi a couple of starts.

If Washington can turn this shitstick for picks, we could too.


Brock 12-28-2012 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 9246572)
Every player drafted by a team other than the Chiefs is over valued on this board.

Every qb. That is because we don't draft them.

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 12-28-2012 04:56 PM

Agree.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 9246373)
Guy plays like a winner but he's still a huge question mark. Getting a couple thirds would be a reach, a couple of firsts is insane.


RealSNR 12-28-2012 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9246277)
Stanzi isn't good enough to suit up on Sundays in his 2nd season but he's a better version of Cousins...

Cousins is dogshit. It doesn't take much to be better than him.

RealSNR 12-28-2012 06:44 PM

I would have drafted Cousins with teh 4th round pick so he could sit on teh bench behind Cassel and Quinn and one day be teh Kyle Orton we need lawl

SAUTO 12-28-2012 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9246493)
3 full years at Michigan State vs. 6 whole quarters of NFL football.

Yippie, he's the next Matt ****ing Flynn. Let's trade for him so he can sit on the goddamn bench all next year.

Did you miss the second sentence?

And I was comparing Stanzi vs. cousins at this point.

Cousins gets a chance and looks like a qb. Preseason and in the game last Sunday.

Stanzi looked like he wanted to **** the football.
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