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Deberg_1990 10-07-2012 02:57 PM

Was it wrong to cheer Cassel getting hurt?
 
810 playing sound bite of Winston pissed off about it and defending Cassel.

Dude is pissed at fans cheering....calls it disgusting......

Says hes never seen fans cheer a guy getting hurt.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-07-2012 02:59 PM

Usually yeah, but I can understand because the fans wanted him out soooo bad and Romeo kepped trotting him out there to shit his pants time and time again.

Paniero 10-07-2012 02:59 PM

Yes.

Bugeater 10-07-2012 02:59 PM

He hasn't been putting up with this shitty franchise for his entire life.

Crush 10-07-2012 02:59 PM

**** Winston. We can only hope that Cassel has permanent brain damage.

jd1020 10-07-2012 03:00 PM

I don't care if anyone cheers for his "injury."

It wasn't serious. He was moving around, trying to sit up, but he was just out of it.

Sad that that's what it takes to get Cassel off the field.

BossChief 10-07-2012 03:01 PM

The world cheered when Hitler committed suicide.

This is something similar....but I didnt cheer, even though part of me wanted to and I was disappointed when others did.

Molitoth 10-07-2012 03:02 PM

If Cassel broke his neck or got seriously injured....

The Fans should hold their comments and cheer that he is not dead.


If Cassel is faking an injury to save himself from embarrassment, or making a big deal over a sprained finger... yes you cheer and boo his ass off the field until he cry's.

Smed1065 10-07-2012 03:02 PM

Q

Deberg_1990 10-07-2012 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8988588)
He hasn't been putting up with this shitty franchise for his entire life.

This ^^

He hasnt been around long enough to understand the fans mentality and history of the franchise.

Fans were cheering that change occured more than Cassel getting hurt.

GordonGekko 10-07-2012 03:03 PM

They weren't cheering that he got hurt, they were cheering for the fact that now, someone else will have a chance to play QB. And it is, it is very pathetic and sad that management has allowed the fan base to become this upset that it got to that point.

I'm sure no one in the stadium wished serious injury on Cassel. They just wanted someone else under center.

notorious 10-07-2012 03:03 PM

If this franchise did the right thing and took out the garbage when it started to stink they wouldn't have fans cheering injuries.

BossChief 10-07-2012 03:05 PM

Is Cassel pissed at his teammates that they played harder for Quinn than they did before he got hurt?

Priest31kc 10-07-2012 03:05 PM

Arrowhead Pride ‏@ArrowheadPride
Lilja said the original play call on that fumble was not the sneak. Cassel checked to it.

Fish 10-07-2012 03:06 PM

I wasn't cheering Cassel getting hurt. I was cheering Quinn getting a chance....

Rasputin 10-07-2012 03:07 PM

The only person to blame is Pioli.

Oh and Q.

tk13 10-07-2012 03:07 PM

I think a lot of people were probably just cheering that Quinn would get to come in. Someone would probably be far more disturbed reading posts on this board by people who want Cassel to die, etc. People go a little crazy about Cassel.

tecumseh 10-07-2012 03:09 PM

It's frustration. Not classy, just caught up in the moment. Winston can say what he wants, he gets paid to play , we pay to attend.

kcxiv 10-07-2012 03:11 PM

ill look at it as people cheering that Quinn got a chance rather then Cassel got hurt. I dont htink people really want to see Matt get hurt, just benched or even let go.

CoMoChief 10-07-2012 03:12 PM

Yes it's wrong to cheer anyone getting hurt.

But I'm not going to sit here and say that I'm mad he came off of the field....because sadly injury is the ONLY way Cassel is going to be benched.

He doesn't deserve to start. The players don't believe in him....that's OBVIOUS.

Molitoth 10-07-2012 03:13 PM

As soon as Cassel went down the first thought in my mind was...

Great, now Pioli has an excuse to put him back in next week.
I did NOT cheer.


Then when Quinn grabbed a ball and went in... I secretly got happy.

Messier 10-07-2012 03:16 PM

Not that there was a lot of time to notice this, but did anyone think the team stepped it up when Quinn came in? It seemed everyone (especially the WRs) put in more effort when Quinn was in, like they knew they had a shot at catching a well thrown ball.

Lex Luthor 10-07-2012 03:17 PM

The worst possible thing that can happen for this team would be for Cassel to get hurt and miss significant playing time. That would guarantee that Pioli would bring him back next year, just like one year ago.

I want Cassel to play until he plays his way onto the bench permanently.

Psyko Tek 10-07-2012 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tecumseh (Post 8988656)
It's frustration. Not classy, just caught up in the moment. Winston can say what he wants, he gets paid to play , we pay to attend.

last week winston was paid for watching
because he did not block

OzarksChiefsFan 10-07-2012 03:18 PM

Wrong to cheer an injury but I think they were cheering for a new QB not for the injury.

Deberg_1990 10-07-2012 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8988716)
Not that there was a lot of time to notice this, but did anyone think the team stepped it up when Quinn came in? It seemed everyone (especially the WRs) put in more effort when Quinn was in, like they knew they had a shot at catching a well thrown ball.

Not really. Quinn was better at putting the ball on target, in a better spot and hitting the WR in stride.

dtebbe 10-07-2012 03:19 PM

I cheered Cassel being ok and being able to walk off under his own power.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. :harumph:

RINGLEADER 10-07-2012 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 8988638)
Arrowhead Pride ‏@ArrowheadPride
Lilja said the original play call on that fumble was not the sneak. Cassel checked to it.

:facepalm:

chiefzilla1501 10-07-2012 03:20 PM

It is wrong to cheer anybody getting hurt. Absolutely. I got mad as hell when people booed Trent Green for toughing out playing after his concussion.

But this is a different situation. I admit that I clapped when I saw Quinn warming up. I thought Cassel was out for a few plays (but expected him to come back after a few plays). I hoped Quinn would finish the drive, score a TD, and then the QB controversy would finally begin. I became worried when Cassel looked like he wasn't moving and I stopped celebrating.

I'm not proud of even cheering Cassel being out even just for a few series. But let's face it, this team has pushed us to really hate a likable guy who, in my opinion, doesn't even want to be put in this situation anymore. I don't hate Cassel as much as I do the guys up top who are pushing him onto all of us.

RINGLEADER 10-07-2012 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8988716)
Not that there was a lot of time to notice this, but did anyone think the team stepped it up when Quinn came in? It seemed everyone (especially the WRs) put in more effort when Quinn was in, like they knew they had a shot at catching a well thrown ball.

No, the QB'ing was just better...

Shaid 10-07-2012 03:23 PM

Cheering an injury is wrong, period. If you want to cheer Quinn coming out then fine, but don't cheer an injury. I think there was a little of both.

Titty Meat 10-07-2012 03:23 PM

Yes.

DeezNutz 10-07-2012 03:28 PM

Pioli has driven us to this; it's all own our fraudulent GM.

stonedstooge 10-07-2012 03:28 PM

I thought it was the Chiefs sideline that was cheering

DaFace 10-07-2012 03:29 PM

Wrong? Kind of. But people were really just cheering because Cassel got pulled from the game, which should have happened three weeks ago. If that had happened, there wouldn't have been anything to cheer about.

CaliforniaChief 10-07-2012 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8988816)
Wrong? Kind of. But people were really just cheering because Cassel got pulled from the game, which should have happened three weeks ago. If that had happened, there wouldn't have been anything to cheer about.

Agreed. Cheering an injury is wrong, period. Unfortunately, this regime's bullheaded refusal to admit what the rest of the football world sees led to such frustration.

tk13 10-07-2012 03:32 PM

If Pioli has driven you to something... you're just as psycho as he is. Sorry. People are losing their minds a bit I think.

Mr. Laz 10-07-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 8988589)
**** Winston. We can only hope that Cassel has permanent brain damage.

:doh!:

DeezNutz 10-07-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8988840)
If Pioli has driven you to something... you're just as psycho as he is. Sorry. People are losing their minds a bit I think.

Be a little less literal and a little more metaphoric, Luke.

tk13 10-07-2012 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8988949)
Be a little less literal and a little more metaphoric, Luke.

I am, Darth. People have lost their minds. They'd actually probably have a lot more effect on what happens to this franchise if they stopped caring. Instead we're slipping toward insanity, and after today Pioli and Crennel have obviously decided the only response is stick their flag in the sand and be even more insane.

DeezNutz 10-07-2012 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8988963)
I am, Darth. People have lost their minds. They'd actually probably have a lot more effect on what happens to this franchise if they stopped caring.

Wrong Luke, Hoch.

kaplin42 10-07-2012 03:56 PM

Wanting Cassel benched is one thing, cheering when he gets hurt is another. Yes it was wrong, and extremely poor form.

tk13 10-07-2012 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8988966)
Wrong Luke, Hoch.

Well if that's the best you can do on this topic, good for you. Quality effort.

Titty Meat 10-07-2012 03:59 PM

I'm just glad Winston came out and talked about it instead of focusing on the team being 1-4. It's great when a player is more focused on the fans than results. Romeo has this team focused.

DeezNutz 10-07-2012 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8988978)
Well if that's the best you can do on this topic, good for you. Quality effort.

People not caring will have little impact this season, since season tickets have already been purchased and TV revenue is stable.

For the fans to have any hope for immediate or "quick" change, their voices will have to be heard. Banners, bags, etc. These are viable means of getting the message across.

Overall, I actually agree with Winston's comments. Cheering an injured player is classless, but it's embarrassing from the organization's standpoint that it's been allowed to reach this point.

Titty Meat 10-07-2012 04:00 PM

Here's the Winston clip

http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.n...ton-sunday.mp3

BigMeatballDave 10-07-2012 04:06 PM

Winston should be disgusted at how his QB is playing.

kcchris727 10-07-2012 04:06 PM

Who cares...the banner was awesome!!
 
Great job!

Shaid 10-07-2012 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8988982)
I'm just glad Winston came out and talked about it instead of focusing on the team being 1-4. It's great when a player is more focused on the fans than results. Romeo has this team focused.

He's defending his teammate. That's what you should do.

WilliamTheIrish 10-07-2012 04:07 PM

**** Winston. Quit ( like the rest of this sorry franchise) if you're that upset, you mope.

BigMeatballDave 10-07-2012 04:08 PM

Winston can eat a bag of dicks.

Death2CasselFans 10-07-2012 04:12 PM

http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u...heeringFan.gif

donkhater 10-07-2012 04:12 PM

Cheering an injury is wrong. But it was painfully clear that KC was not going to pull his ass unless he got injured. The injury was sweet, sweet relief from the putrid play we have been expected to remain loyal to dispite the world seeing otherwise.

To hell with this organization putting us in that position.

BigMeatballDave 10-07-2012 04:13 PM

I have no problem with Winston defending a teammate, but he should be more concerned about the shitty performance the fans spend their hard-earned money on.

KChiefer 10-07-2012 04:15 PM

I've been knocked out and didn't get payed 60mil for it. Winston needs to kick his diamond encrusted can down Beverly Hills if he wants sympathy for Cassel.

And Christ, Cassel was moving on the ground and walked off the field under his own power. That's usually a good sign that he'll pull through. It's not like it was a devastating hit like what RG3 took today.

Again, why is he not outspoken about the people that have continued to stoke the fans' ire, Hunt, Pioli, RAC?

WilliamTheIrish 10-07-2012 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8989046)
I have no problem with Winston defending a teammate, but he should be more concerned about the shitty performance the fans spend their hard-earned money on.

Oh, he's concerned. He even mentioned "tough economic times" in his true fan manifesto.

New World Order 10-07-2012 04:17 PM

I think he is looking at it the wrong way, fans were cheering more for Quinn to play than Cassel being hurt

mcaj22 10-07-2012 04:24 PM

give me 60 million and you can boo me, knock me out, and use me as a cum rag for all i care

i am being paid 60 million and i am under a microscope for you to judge me and look at me however youd like based on my actions and performance at MY ****ING JOB.


that's all it is. I dont pity any of these guys that get paid more in one week than I will in my lifetime.

Reaper16 10-07-2012 04:26 PM

When oppressed peoples assert their agency the ruling party always sees that behavior as wrong.

Deberg_1990 10-07-2012 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 8989051)

Again, why is he not outspoken about the people that have continued to stoke the fans' ire, Hunt, Pioli, RAC?

Because those are the people that write his checks.

007 10-07-2012 04:30 PM

Yeah, its wrong. But that isn't what happened. Fans were cheering Quinn coming in, not the injury. I'm sure there were a couple hundred dumbasses out there cheering his injury. Winston has thrown the entire fanbase under the bus with his comments.

hometeam 10-07-2012 04:31 PM

hes FUSSTRATED

dwnanout 10-07-2012 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 8988693)
As soon as Cassel went down the first thought in my mind was...

Great, now Pioli has an excuse to put him back in next week.
I did NOT cheer.


Then when Quinn grabbed a ball and went in... I secretly got happy.

Sadly... yep

the Talking Can 10-07-2012 04:33 PM

next banner

"Sorry about the injury, matt. But please die next time."

Death2CasselFans 10-07-2012 04:33 PM

http://i.imgur.com/ClQbn.jpg?1

KCDC 10-07-2012 04:36 PM

It was wrong to cheer openly. It was okay to be quietly happy as long as the injury is not serious.

I hope his injury is not serious -- just temporary enough to keep him out of the starting job for the rest of the season.

Another point, we are not Philly fans by nature (who cheer their own injuries and jeer their own players). For good decent KC folks to jeer their coaching (and some to cheer Cassel's injury) just shows how bad it has been allowed to get by front office and coaching deafness.

memyselfI 10-07-2012 04:38 PM

Yes, it was wrong and if it rallies these guys around Matt then more power to them all. He has not thrown any of them under a bus. He is still reportedly enjoying support within the team. Good for Winston to speak out and take on the fans regarding his feelings. I doubt he is alone in the frustration. I am astonished by the notion that cheering any injury, LET ALONE YOUR OWN PLAYER, is deemed as acceptable fan or civilized person behavior.

the Talking Can 10-07-2012 04:39 PM

and of course the dumb bitch raider fan shows up....like a fly to shit

BigMeatballDave 10-07-2012 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 8989210)
if it rallies these guys around Matt then more power to them all.

Kill yourself

Bump 10-07-2012 04:40 PM

Not in Cassel's case it's not. He has immunity. Our only way to express our disgust with said immunity is to cheer for him to get hurt, since that's the only way he can get off of the field.

BigMeatballDave 10-07-2012 04:42 PM

People cheer boxers getting knocked out all the time.



:)

BigMeatballDave 10-07-2012 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8989146)
Yeah, its wrong. But that isn't what happened. Fans were cheering Quinn coming in, not the injury. I'm sure there were a couple hundred dumbasses out there cheering his injury. Winston has thrown the entire fanbase under the bus with his comments.

This should be tweeted out to Winston.

durtyrute 10-07-2012 04:45 PM

Nodody wants him to be hurt they just want him to not play on this team..............ever.

doomy3 10-07-2012 04:45 PM

Completely embarrassing for fans to cheer Cassel's injury. Not surprising, but definitely embarrassing. Even Ravens players said as much. I don't see people knocking Charles about speaking up about it either, but he wasn't happy about the fans' reaction.

Ozarks-Chiefs-Fan 10-07-2012 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 8988784)
Cheering an injury is wrong, period. If you want to cheer Quinn coming out then fine, but don't cheer an injury. I think there was a little of both.

This. It's wrong period.

BigMeatballDave 10-07-2012 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8989237)
Completely embarrassing for fans to cheer Cassel's injury. Not surprising, but definitely embarrassing. Even Ravens players said as much. I don't see people knocking Charles about speaking up about it either, but he wasn't happy about the fans' reaction.

How do you know they weren't cheering for Quinn to come in?

And WTF do you mean by 'not surprising'?

memyselfI 10-07-2012 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8989237)
Completely embarrassing for fans to cheer Cassel's injury. Not surprising, but definitely embarrassing. Even Ravens players said as much. I don't see people knocking Charles about speaking up about it either, but he wasn't happy about the fans' reaction.

What did he say? Link? Glad it's not just Winston.

jspchief 10-07-2012 04:49 PM

I watch everything KC does with apathy, so I guess Winston can be thankful for that.

King_Chief_Fan 10-07-2012 04:50 PM

Winston is right

WV 10-07-2012 04:51 PM

I'm ready to be rid of him as much as anyone else, but it should not have been cheered.


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