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houstonwhodat 04-09-2013 01:08 PM

FCC Could Ban The Word "Redskins" From Radio & TV - Are The "Chiefs" Next?
 
These political correctness people are driving me nuts.

If they get their way concerning the Redskins perhaps they will go after the "Chiefs" next.

"WASHINGTON, D.C. (GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY LAW SCHOOL) — The Federal Communications Commission [FCC] could effectively ban the use of the word "Redskins" by broadcasters, based upon a filing by several former FCC commissioners and other communication law experts, if the team's name isn't changed, according to a letter sent Friday to team owner Dan Snyder which concluded that using the word "Redskin" on the air is likely to be contrary to federal broadcast law because it constitutes an "indecency" if not an "obscenity."

The letter from former FCC chairman Reed Hundt and 11 other broadcast law experts says the R-word is the most derogatory name a Native American can be called, and is an "unequivocal racial slur" akin to the N-word. They liken the use of "Redskin" to an "obscenity," which is illegal on the public airwaves in any form, rather than simply an "indecency" which is restricted to certain times of the day."


http://www.ketknbc.com/news/fcc-coul...-from-tv-radio

http://rbr.com/fcc-could-ban-redskin...-radio-and-tv/

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...s-is-indecent/

L.A. Chieffan 04-09-2013 01:09 PM

Kansas City Kracka Killaz has a nice ring to it.

Marco Polo 04-09-2013 01:10 PM

This will probably turn to DC quickly, but if you study the culture of Native Americans, the "R-word" is offensive. It's just not well known.

Sorter 04-09-2013 01:10 PM

Probably not.

Dayze 04-09-2013 01:11 PM

yeah the word is offensive; almost as bad as killing them off their own land.

beach tribe 04-09-2013 01:13 PM

This will not happen. Never underestimate the power of Billion$.

Ming the Merciless 04-09-2013 01:13 PM

Quote:

“As the Washington Post’s Mike Wise pointed out, ‘America wouldn’t stand for a team called the Blackskins — or the Mandingos, the Brothers, the Yellowskins, insert your ethnic minority here.’”
The Compton Mandingos?

The Boston Bad Ass Brothers?

houstonwhodat 04-09-2013 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9571378)
Probably not.


They might leave the word "Chiefs" alone since it doesn't refer to skin color.

But it does refer to a culture stereotype so who knows.

Give em an inch they will take a mile.

CrazyPhuD 04-09-2013 01:13 PM

So what does that mean for the future of the New Mexico person of Hispanic heritages of the UFL????

beach tribe 04-09-2013 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 9571392)
So what does that mean for the future of the New Mexico person of Hispanic heritages of the UFL????

You mean the grounds keepers?:evil:

Rasputin 04-09-2013 01:16 PM

Should have named em ENJUNS pronounced engines.

CrazyPhuD 04-09-2013 01:16 PM

BTW aren't the Green Bay Packers a slander against gays?????

Ming the Merciless 04-09-2013 01:17 PM

omg viking is a racist depiction of whites

ThatRaceCardGuy 04-09-2013 01:17 PM

If you're not Native American you should probably stop bitching crying and moaning (same thing you're complaining about) about a word which NativeAmericans find offensive. What's more important here? Your right to hear a word thats offensive to Native Americans or their right to end the use of a word that's offensive to them. Maybe if you took the time to research the history of the word and less time creating threads how YOU'RE OFFENDED BY NATIVE AMERICANS BEING OFFENDED..maybe you'll learn something.

mr. tegu 04-09-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 9571389)
They might leave the word "Chiefs" alone since it doesn't refer to skin color.

But it does refer to a culture stereotype so who knows.

Give em an inch they will take a mile.

Stereotype? :spock:

Ming the Merciless 04-09-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thatguy (Post 9571404)
If you're not Native American you should probably stop bitching crying and moaning (same thing you're complaining about) about a word which NativeAmericans find offensive. What's more important here? Your right to hear a word thats offensive to Native Americans or their right to end the use of a word that's offensive to them. Maybe if you took tue time to research the history of thw word and less time creating tureads about how YOU'RE OFFENDED BY NATIVE AMERICANS BEING OFFENDED..maybe you'll learn something.


you are a ****ing idiot if you are lumping all native americans together and think they all agree


honestly this statement is more racist than 'redskins' you god damn moron

beach tribe 04-09-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9571403)
omg viking is a racist depiction of whites

You think we all have long Blond Hair and Gay Porn staches don't you NFL?

ThatRaceCardGuy 04-09-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9571403)
omg viking is a racist depiction of whites

Are you really that stupid? Serious question.

ThatRaceCardGuy 04-09-2013 01:21 PM

[QUOTE=Pawnmower;9571409]you are a ****ing idiot if you are lumping all native americans together and think they all agree


honestly this statement is more racist than 'redskins' you god damn


Jfc. ..you are that stupid.

L.A. Chieffan 04-09-2013 01:22 PM

remember that sopranos ep. where all the indians were protesting columbus day? that was a good one

Lprechaun 04-09-2013 01:22 PM

Redskins, and Chiefs are two completely different spectrum's of a race of people. One is a term derived from color of skin obviously while the other is an actual esteemed person among tribes. If you ban the word redskins than we might as well ban "black", "white", "olive", etc....

mr. tegu 04-09-2013 01:27 PM

Did the Kansa people tell us we could name our state after them?

Discuss Thrower 04-09-2013 01:27 PM

It's only stupid PC thinking if the Chiefs go down for it, but I wouldn't be surprised. Why the club is named the way it is and makes sense for those who know, but it doesn't help that they've adopted indigenous iconography to go along with the name.

Snyder would be savvy if he renamed the team to the warriors or something and either whitewash any association with racist representations of Indians or go out and associate the team with the military in some way.

ThatRaceCardGuy 04-09-2013 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 9571389)
They might leave the word "Chiefs" alone since it doesn't refer to skin color.

But it does refer to a culture stereotype so who knows.

Give em an inch they will take a mile.

Lmao. You're a being a bigger cry baby about this than the people you re complaining about. Why does it hurt your feelings that a group of people are offended by the name Redskins? If it's a derogatory name it has no place in today's multicultural ssociety. I know some cp poster wish for the good old days whem racist terms and words were apart of our Americana, but those days are thankfully long gone...get over it.

beach tribe 04-09-2013 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thatguy (Post 9571404)
If you're not Native American you should probably stop bitching crying and moaning (same thing you're complaining about) about a word which NativeAmericans find offensive. What's more important here? Your right to hear a word thats offensive to Native Americans or their right to end the use of a word that's offensive to them. Maybe if you took the time to research the history of the word and less time creating threads how YOU'RE OFFENDED BY NATIVE AMERICANS BEING OFFENDED..maybe you'll learn something.

I see our angry "victim" is here to voice his opinion.

RealSNR 04-09-2013 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 9571389)
They might leave the word "Chiefs" alone since it doesn't refer to skin color.

But it does refer to a culture stereotype so who knows.

Give em an inch they will take a mile.

If they're gonna do a crackdown of Native American mascots in sports, the Chiefs should be the LAST ones to go.

"Redskins" and that racist-as-**** Chief Wahoo need to go first.

As long as the NCAA is doing away with references to specific tribes without their permission, the Blackhawk Indians also should probably sign off if they want their tribe associated with a sports team.

Atlanta Braves would be next.

If worse comes to worst, the Chiefs could always do like the Golden State Warriors and just remove any reference to Native Americans in their team logo. And I seriously doubt we'll ever come to that. At least not for a long time.

seaofred 04-09-2013 01:30 PM

He should change the name to The Washington Politically Corrects and the maskcot could be George Washington weeping.

Bowser 04-09-2013 01:30 PM

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj...9o1_r1_500.gif

mr. tegu 04-09-2013 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 9571439)
I see our angry "victim" is here to voice his opinion.

You need to change your user name.

beach tribe 04-09-2013 01:31 PM

My Grandmother is Full blooded Cherokee. She's not offended by the word Redskin. She said it sounds like a description. I'm sure there are some who find it offensive, so it will be an issue for sure.

Deberg_1990 04-09-2013 01:31 PM

Kansas City Whiteskins!

beach tribe 04-09-2013 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9571452)
You need to change your user name.

Is it offensive?

ThatRaceCardGuy 04-09-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 9571439)
I see our angry "victim" is here to voice his opinion.


Someone has to provide a bit of balance from thw Archie Bunkers of CP. ..but please tell me more about being a ...VICTIM... of PC.

Ming the Merciless 04-09-2013 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thatguy (Post 9571438)
Lmao. You're a being a bigger cry baby about this than the people you re complaining about. Why does it hurt your feelings that a group of people are offended by the name Redskins? If it's a derogatory name it has no place in today's multicultural ssociety. I know some cp poster wish for the good old days whem racist terms and words were apart of our Americana, but those days are thankfully long gone...get over it.

its not like they are using the term as an insult

its a testament to them being fierce ass warriors

the logo looks bad ass

its not like ****ing sambo in black face being a jester

its bad ****ing ass


I actually heard a group of native americans arguing about this topic in a bar a couple months ago......out of 6 there were 3-4 who liked the logo and depiction of fierceness........

granted they were all in their 20's and young males....so probably not representative

mikey23545 04-09-2013 01:34 PM

Time to oust the-commander-in-CHIEF for using that blatantly offensive title!

Oh wait, he's black, that won't work...

Wait, he's only half black, so what do we do now?

Damn this is confusing...

seaofred 04-09-2013 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9571456)
Kansas City Whiteskins!

You see, that would be allowed because it would only "offend" white people. And that is o.k.

houstonwhodat 04-09-2013 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9571424)
remember that sopranos ep. where all the indians were protesting columbus day? that was a good one

It was a pretty good one.

That's when they disclosed that the Native American guy on the "please don't litter" commercials way back in the day was actually a Cajun from Louisiana and not an injun.

That episode is coming up again too soon on HBO Signature.

beach tribe 04-09-2013 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thatguy (Post 9571463)
Someone has to provide a bit of balance from thw Archie Bunkers of CP. ..but please tell me more about being a ...VICTIM... of PC.

Your card is still valid, but it may not work at this establishment.

RealSNR 04-09-2013 01:36 PM

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...-wahoo-jpg.jpg

Would anybody REALLY shed a tear if the Indians ditched Chief Wahoo?

It's the 21st ****ing century for crying out loud.

houstonwhodat 04-09-2013 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 9571471)
Time to oust the-commander-in-CHIEF for using that blatantly offensive title!

Oh wait, he's black, that won't work...

Wait, he's only half black, so what do we do now?

Damn this is confusing...



Which half?

beach tribe 04-09-2013 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 9571478)
You see, that would be allowed because it would only "offend" white people. And that is o.k.

Actually, it probably wouldn't offend anyone at all. Funny how that works.

houstonwhodat 04-09-2013 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9571482)
http://rnishi.files.wordpress.com/20...hief_wahoo.jpg

Would anybody REALLY shed a tear if the Indians ditched Chief Wahoo?

It's the 21st ****ing century for crying out loud.

Forgot about the Cleveland Indians.

They're next.

STOP THE LIBERALS BEFORE THEY TAKE OVER!!!!

beach tribe 04-09-2013 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9571482)
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...-wahoo-jpg.jpg

Would anybody REALLY shed a tear if the Indians ditched Chief Wahoo?

It's the 21st ****ing century for crying out loud.

Yeeeeah. I could see that being kind of abrasive.

ThatRaceCardGuy 04-09-2013 01:38 PM

This thread will turn into "People complaing about being victims of PC America, who are complaing about people complaing about being ""victims""

Ming the Merciless 04-09-2013 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9571456)
Kansas City Whiteskins!

If they made a team called the "Kansas City Crackas" whose logo was a crazy redneck witrh a bushmaster i would laugh and probably buy a hoodie or hat.....

but i wouldnt get butthurt and cry about it

1st amendment?

mr. tegu 04-09-2013 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 9571460)
Is it offensive?

I find it very offensive to beaches everywhere. You do not speak for all of them!

DaFace 04-09-2013 01:39 PM

That seems pretty silly from my own frame of reference, but there was a time not too long ago when a number of other words (****er, bundle of sticks, etc.) weren't thought to be all that bad either. It's just the way the world is going these days.

houstonwhodat 04-09-2013 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thatguy (Post 9571438)
Lmao. You're a being a bigger cry baby about this than the people you re complaining about. Why does it hurt your feelings that a group of people are offended by the name Redskins? If it's a derogatory name it has no place in today's multicultural ssociety. I know some cp poster wish for the good old days whem racist terms and words were apart of our Americana, but those days are thankfully long gone...get over it.

You get over it.

The Redskins were here before you were born and will be here after.

It's tradition, leave it alone.

DaFace 04-09-2013 01:44 PM

As for the "are the Chiefs next" question...I wouldn't think it'd even be in the same ballpark. "Chief" is not an offensive word, and the football team's name actually came from Mayor H. Roe "The Chief" Bartle, who was instrumental in getting the team to move to KC.

Now, you could make an argument that the "tribal chant" and even "Arrowhead" could one day be in jeopardy, but I wouldn't think the name "Chiefs" will have any trouble sticking around.

houstonwhodat 04-09-2013 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9571516)
As for the "are the Chiefs next" question...I wouldn't think it'd even be in the same ballpark. "Chief" is not an offensive word, and the football team's name actually came from Mayor Roe "The Chief" Bartle, who was instrumental in getting the team to move to KC.

Now, you could make an argument that the "tribal chant" and even "Arrowhead" could one day be in jeopardy, but I wouldn't think the name "Chiefs" will have any trouble sticking around.

I agree.

But I'm not a libtard.

If the "Redskins" term does get banned you can bet it's only the start.

ThatRaceCardGuy 04-09-2013 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 9571507)
You get over it.

The Redskins were here before you were born and will be here after.

It's tradition, leave it alone.

An yet here you are. .mad victim. I never said I agreed with it one way or the other. I just made the point if it's offensive why are you ao offended by people being offended. This isn't something new. For decades Native American groups have tried to get the Redskins to change their name.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-09-2013 01:47 PM

Chiefs were named after Roe Bartle, an obese and somewhat reeruned-looking white man, so I think we're good to go.
Posted via Mobile Device

Gadzooks 04-09-2013 01:47 PM

How about the KC Meth heads?
You could have this guy on the side of your helmet:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_d-J-JGsD_r...heMethHead.jpg
He looks scarier than the honkys on the Raiders, Patriots or Bucs logos.

DaFace 04-09-2013 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 9571520)
I agree.

But I'm not a libtard.

If the "Redskins" term does get banned you can bet it's only the start.

That just seems silly. The word Chief has been in existence for centuries before anyone knew what "Native Americans" even are. Seems like more of a strawman you're going after here than anything based in reality.

RealSNR 04-09-2013 01:49 PM

My uncle's an electrician.

Ban "Chargers"

houstonwhodat 04-09-2013 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 9571529)
How about the KC Meth heads?
You could have this guy on the side of your helmet:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_d-J-JGsD_r...heMethHead.jpg
He looks scarier than the honkys on the Raiders, Patriots or Bucs logos.


Is that Beavis or Butthead?

Gadzooks 04-09-2013 01:50 PM

Ooooooo, how about the KC Camaros:
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...hkks3Zizjh81Sp

CrazyPhuD 04-09-2013 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9571532)
That just seems silly. The word Chief has been in existence for centuries before anyone knew what "Native Americans" even are. Seems like more of a strawman you're going after here than anything based in reality.

Well true but if someone where to name an NFL team 'The Slaves' would there be a racist outcry? That term has been around in one form or another since the birth of man. Probably the only term that's been in common use longer would be whore.

CrazyPhuD 04-09-2013 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9571533)
My uncle's an electrician.

Ban "Chargers"

Electricians like Chargers....they just don't like dischargers....especially involuntary ones.

loochy 04-09-2013 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 9571542)

why in the blue hell would there be a firebird on a camaro?

houstonwhodat 04-09-2013 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9571526)
Chiefs were named after Roe Bartle, an obese and somewhat reeruned-looking white man, so I think we're good to go.
Posted via Mobile Device


See I didn't even know that.

The Chiefs have an arrowhead on their helmet. Their stadium in Arrowhead.

Neither one of those two refer to an obese reeruned looking white man.

Hey I think the Redskins, Chiefs, all of that are bad ass and they should leave it all alone.

To me the whole Indian theme refers to them being warriors, what else could it mean?

Does this mean that if my ancestor was Gen. Custer I should be offended?

They should just leave all this shit alone.

I'm surprised the NFL hasn't spoken up yet.

crossbow 04-09-2013 01:56 PM

I think all communication (verbal or written) in this country should be outlawed so there is no chance that anyone living here can get their feelings hurt. And I don't want to see any sign language either, it makes people that lack those skills feel left out.

Prison Bitch 04-09-2013 01:57 PM

WHEN will liberals stop annoying us all?

RealSNR 04-09-2013 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 9571545)
Well true but if someone where to name an NFL team 'The Slaves' would there be a racist outcry? That term has been around in one form or another since the birth of man. Probably the only term that's been in common use longer would be whore.

http://bramblitt.net/wp-content/uplo.../Mr.-Slave.jpg

ThatRaceCardGuy 04-09-2013 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9571559)
WHEN will liberals stop annoying us all?

"Victim" ^^^^^^^

listopencil 04-09-2013 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thatguy (Post 9571404)
If you're not Native American you should probably stop bitching crying and moaning (same thing you're complaining about) about a word which NativeAmericans find offensive. What's more important here? Your right to hear a word thats offensive to Native Americans or their right to end the use of a word that's offensive to them. Maybe if you took the time to research the history of the word and less time creating threads how YOU'RE OFFENDED BY NATIVE AMERICANS BEING OFFENDED..maybe you'll learn something.

My great grandmother was Melungeon. For those who are unaware, that would be primarily "African" with some "Native American" thrown in, mixed with central and northern European. Go ahead. Call me a redskin. Call me a cracker. Whatever. I'll laugh in your face. What offends me is the banning of particular words by the FCC. It's bullshit.

houstonwhodat 04-09-2013 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9571576)
My great grandmother was Melungeon. For those who are unaware, that would be primarily "African" with some "Native American" thrown in, mixed with central and northern European. Go ahead. Call me a redskin. Call me a cracker. Whatever. I'll laugh in your face. What offends me is the banning of particular words by the FCC. It's bullshit.


Your grandma almost sounds "Creole". (Cajun/African/Etc)

houstonwhodat 04-09-2013 02:05 PM

The people that complain about the term "Redskins" or "Chiefs" or "Indians" forget that is why people try to get into this country any way they can.

People want to come to America because you can say whatever you want and almost do it unless it's illegal.

If you dis the govt. in some countries you lose your freedom.

Leave America alone, it was fine the way it was.

Beef Supreme 04-09-2013 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 9571478)
You see, that would be allowed because it would only "offend" white people. And that is o.k.

It wouldn't offend me. Why people get their panties in a twist about a word is really beyond me. Call me white, cracker, honkie, redneck, whatever...I don't give a **** because they are just words that have no power over me.

Too much sand in vagina in this country.

DJJasonp 04-09-2013 02:06 PM

According to Wiki: 'Chief' is a title or rank and Arrowhead is an item used for hunting or building....and sure as hell pre-dates indians (as it dates back to stone ages).


I'm pretty sure chiefs will be ok. Now Warpaint.....that's a whole other story! :p

mr. tegu 04-09-2013 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 9571597)
The people that complain about the term "Redskins" or "Chiefs" or "Indians" forget that is why people try to get into this country any way they can.

People want to come to America because you can say whatever you want and almost do it unless it's illegal.

If you dis the govt. in some countries you lose your freedom.

Leave America alone, it was fine the way it was.

How would this post look in 1865?

listopencil 04-09-2013 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 9571588)
Your grandma almost sounds "Creole". (Cajun/African/Etc)

Some Melungeons were. It's a mixed bag.

ThatRaceCardGuy 04-09-2013 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 9571597)
The people that complain about the term "Redskins" or "Chiefs" or "Indians" forget that is why people try to get into this country any way they can.

People want to come to America because you can say whatever you want and almost do it unless it's illegal.

If you dis the govt. in some countries you lose your freedom.

Leave America alone, it was fine the way it was.


You're acting like a victim. ..one could even say you're OFFENDED..by this.

Chiefspants 04-09-2013 02:09 PM

"Redskin" is the equivalent of the N word for many Native Americans. In all honesty, the name should be changed, it was also well known that Washington's owner was incredibly bigoted toward Native Americans when he decided on a name.

houstonwhodat 04-09-2013 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9571606)
How would this post look in 1865?

You know what I mean.

Don't go overboard.

mr. tegu 04-09-2013 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 9571620)
You know what I mean.

Don't go overboard.

:thumb:

Just establishing that if the logic is because that is how it has been then it is faulty logic in many cases.

Beef Supreme 04-09-2013 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 9571540)
Is that Beavis or Butthead?

That is obviously Beavis. Or Peyton Manning. Hell of a fivehead.

-King- 04-09-2013 02:11 PM

It's hilarious that houston is trying to act like "Chief" and "Redskin" are in the same ballpark.

The people who want to tell others what they can and can't be offended by are even funnier.

houstonwhodat 04-09-2013 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 9571616)
"Redskin" is the equivalent of the N word for many Native Americans. In all honesty, the name should be changed, it was also well known that Washington's owner was incredibly bigoted toward Native Americans when he decided on a name.



Where will all this end?

Is there a line in Vegas?

-King- 04-09-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 9571625)
Where will all this end?

Is there a line in Vegas?

When will all what end?


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