Proof that Cassel is horrible and Albert is awesome.
 

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...time-to-throw/

Signature Stat Snapshot: Time To Throw

http://i.imgur.com/R7ubW.jpg


Oh yeah, and he also holds the ball too long and takes too many sacks. More proof.


http://i.imgur.com/4TMPT.jpg

Saccopoo, this is your reckoning.

agreed on both accounts.

Makes perfect sense, NO LIE... last week i read "Partners in Power - The Clintons and Their America" cover to cover, between the time that turd dropped back on one play, and - excruciatingly, laboriously - delivered (i use that term very loosely) the ball.

Sac has already chosen to leave the OL talk alone.

RIP

LMAO in his defense, Albert did not have a good kickstep and played too high, did not move well laterally, but did improve all areas of his game through the years. He is playing with consistency now.

Sacks are a lame excuse for failure of a quarterback and getting the job done. Aaron Rodgers gets sacked a lot and still carves teams apart.

When i watch the Eagles play, it always seems to me, that Vick has maybe a half second to throw before getting mutilated. Not sure how accurate those stat's are just from my personal viewing. The Eagles' OL is ****ing horrible.

Sac will be able to beat his OL drum once again if Scott Pioli has anything to say about Brandon Albert's next contract

Jay Cutler's line is probably worse.

thats what happens when you dont have the best LT in the game and lose him to injury before the season even starts

A reckoning has never felt so good.

Understandable, but its not just missing the LT. The whole line is a sieve.

And a great video from AP on Albert needing to get paid. Has great clips in it.

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What is funny, most of those other guys get that stat from throwing it deep down field.. Cassel does that for a 5yard out..

He has that much time in the pocket and still throws it short.


Unbelievable.

There is no way in ****ing hell that Vick has that much time in the pocket.

It's because Vick runs around so much.

Um, Vick is left handed. Argument fail.

Vick takes a long time to read defenses also.

If he's running around, then he's usually not standing in the pocket. Amirite?

Nevermind, i guess the stat's are not arguing pocket time. So i concede.

It's not time in the pocket, though.

Amazing that people still think Vick is a legit NFL quarterback.

Dude is an elite athlete. But as a QB, he's pretty average.

Here is the YPA for each player on the list except for two ...**** Matt Cassel with meccas old toilet brush

Russel Wilson 7.0
Vick 6.8
Newton 8.1
Griffin 7.6
Smith 7.9
Luck 7.2
Cutler 7.4
Freeman 8.1

Cassel 6.5

People can bitch about him all they want, but I would absolutely love to have Cam Newton.

I edited to add Cutler and Freeman.

Pioli opted to pass on every singe QB option the lat 4 years because he truly believed Matt Cassel was a franchise level quarterback.

Fire this clown, Clark...that is, if you haven't already.

I have a feeling he's already been given his papers, but isn't gonna actually be fired until after this prime time game.


Do we have another one this year?

He needs to get paid. We will pay him in Tampa.

I guess i am wondering how that measures OL play, if it allows QB scrambles. In other words, how can you measure OL play without using time in the pocket as a measuring stick.

It's funny, cuz I kind of believe that in a way when Pioli gave Cassel all that money before he earned a dime here. He was giving him elite money as if Cassel was going be good just based off the contract he gave him. He got elite money therefore he is elite per Scott Pioli. It is ridiculous that Pioli gave him the money in the first place. He then just force fed Cassel on us and never had a back up plan. Even preseasons Cassel had most of the snaps through out until he can put a drive together that they could be pleased with but it would still take over 3 quarters for him to get anything going. Un****ing believable in the fail Pioli has set us up with with Cassel. It should be criminal and he should go to jail.

I think PFF has ratings that show how many sacks and pressures can be attributed the OL, and how many to the QB.

I'd bet that the numbers for Cassel would be about 50/50, with half of the OL sacks being attributed to Winston.

I said it when he signed the contract. Pioli seriously thought Cassel was the same player as Aaron Rodgers and that's why the two contracts are nearly identical.

They were in the league the same amount of time.

They sat behind HOF QBs for the same amount of time.

Pioli thought Cassel was that good.

:facepalm:

Shit, Pioli gave Matt Cassel 8 million more in guaranteed money....EPIC FAIL:

Cassel
7/14/2009: Signed a six-year, $63 million contract. The deal contains $28 million guaranteed, including a $10 million roster bonus in the first year and a $7.5 million option bonus in the third. An annual $250,000 workout bonus is available in years two through six. 2012: $5.25 million, 2013: $7.5 million, 2014: $9 million, 2015: Free Agent

Rodgers
10/31/2008: Signed a six-year, $65 million contract. The deal contains $20 million guaranteed, including $12.9 million in the first year and a $7.42 million guaranteed roster bonus in the second. Annual $500,000 workout bonuses are available in years two through six. Annual $500,000 roster bonuses are available in years three through six. 2012: $8 million, 2013: $9.25 million, 2014: $10.5 million, 2015: Free Agent

Then in Vick's case, i would have to go with an 80/20 ratio. Matt Cassel excluded due to an overwhelming abundance of shit-stained diapers in his locker.

Jesus Christ, what a stupid fat bastard.

I'll get killed for this again but, half of it is on Cassel and half of it is on the receivers. No one gets open more than McCluster and his success is obviously play design. It's the same when Quinn is playing. Bowe sucks ass this year more than ever imo. Sometimes Cassel will throw to him when he's covered but Quinn won't. Quinn has zero faith in him. it will b e interesting to see if Bowe was targeted less at the end of the season.

This team sucks!

Vick has always turned the ball over.

He has 86 career fumbles and 81 career interceptions.

That's sad for a guy that just started his 100th career game.

Actually, not even close.

The sacks are evenly distributed with no one credited for more than 2.

Cassel has two, and is also credited with 3 QB hits. ROFL

Asamoah, Winston and Lilja have two.

Winston does lead the team in QB hurries though.

Allen leads the team in QB hits allowed and is the worst pass blocker.

Draughn's protection has been bad too.

Go shower with Sandusky.

Bowe has been the only, and i said ONLY threat we have had this season at WR. Bowe is playing his ass off this year. Our offense is just too inept to consistently get him the ball.

Bowe isnt getting much more separation than the other guys...he is just the primary receiver on most plays and that is usually the only guy Cassel looks at. Most of his catches have been with tight coverage.

Do they show coverage sacks somewhere in the defensive stats?

No.

Does your mom still keep a glass of my chilled pee on her nightstand for a refresher?

Seriously though, what a completely reeruned question.

LMAO

I disagree. He is having one of his worst seasons imo. He couldn't crap against guys like Eric Wright and Pat Lee. He is getting paid $600,000 a game and he's not worth $10 a game imo.

He's done imo. He is slow and runs bad routes.

Go back and watch the Tampa game when Quinn started. I watched twice. He looks at Bowe first 90% of the time. Eric Wright was whipping his ass one on one.

Watch the Oakland tape again. Watch how they stacked the box and left Pat Lee alone on him all day.

Who? Some guy named pat Lee.

Through 8 games, Bowe has 571 yards and 3 touchdowns.

On pace for right around his career average of 985 yards and 7 TDs.

Do you sneak into your moms room and take a sip of my pee from time to time?

Its ok to tell us....

Uh, 571 x2 Would be 1,142 yards.

Basically what he's been doing two years in a row now with shit QBs.

I said "right around his career average"

I was gonna say more than his career average but then I realized that his 15 td year threw off the TD number so I just made the statement conservative.

Under promise...over deliver.

It's pretty cool that you can see Bowe getting his ass beaten, on the NFL film that we are shown each sunday that stays focused on the LOS and QB.


They we see Gif after Gif of guys open down field.


I gotta get to the optometrist, think I need the glasses.

Interesting. Too bad it never amounts to jack shit. How many coverage sacks this year? Should be in the defensive stats somewhere over there.

How many times have we actually witnessed, this year, Bowe break open for a deep ball and Cassel over throw him, or flat miss him altogether.

Are you ****ing obtuse?

The only reason Matt Cassel ever looked good, in 2010, was Dwayne Bowe.

Without Dwayne Bowe the Scott Pioli regime never has a winning season.

No but, I will be drinking a beer and celebrating when he is gone just like I did with Haley.

You cant grade a ply as a ****ing coverage sack in the NFL because its a completely subjective stat.

To Matt Cassel, a guy is covered where for other REAL quarterbacks, those guys just need to be thrown open.

Cassels anticipation is worse than his actual accuracy.

Another thread polluted by colonel moron.

This.

Cassel threw 27 touchdown passes that year.

15 went to Bowe and most of them were shorter passes that Bowe broke coverage...or sub 5 yard passes.

This is a great ****ing post. Literally lol worthy
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Sorry about the massive use of the word you dont like, Jason. BlackBob begs for it.

If it bothers you in any way, I promise I will discontinue use for all of time.

You know what I remember about Bowe in 2010? The easy third down drop in Oakland on the final drive in the 4th quarter. I remember the junk stats against Champ Bailey when he played off in the second half at Denver. I remember everone acting like he had arrived and celebrating that crap. I remember when Denver cam to KC Champ shut him down and he was never even targeted. I remember him choking against Baltimore. I remember the easy drop against Indy. He is the most overrated player in the NFL imo. He never does shit against quality corners. All his stats come against crappy teams. You can spin it any way you want but, the stats don't tell the story.

What I am talking about is "completely subjective" I guess.

it doesnt matter if it is his blind side or not. Jason Peters is and was the best LT last season and still has to block most teams best pass rusher on the left the side.

They replaced him with like King Dunlap Or some shitter from the Bills. It's not an argument fail when a 5 x Pro Bowl and 4 x All Pro player goes down with an injury.

dude I'VE had to hold back from calling him that...

It's been tough most days.
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Bowe had 90 yards in ONE HALF against Champ Bailey last season, in Week 17, in a close game, with Orton.

Shows you what he can do with a QB who isn't dog shit.

Then he got hurt and the offense sucked the rest of the day.

You = ignorant.

Maybe we need Clay to post gif after gif of Bowe not even being targeted against Baltimore or being wide ****ing open against other teams.


Shit, how was this guy allowed back on the board? Wasn't be banned?

Franchise tag worthy. I say no. We are so far away from contending, let the Diva walk. Franchise Albert. You're talking out of both sides of your ass. As usual.

Bowe was WIDE OPEN FOR A TD on at least two plays during the Baltimore game.

One of them was the play that Cassel threw the off target pass to Moeaki that got tip picked...Bowe was totally uncovered about 15 yards past Tony on that play IIRC.

Half the game, Baltimore was creeping a linebacker out wide and dropping the corner back 8 yards BEGGING Cassel to try and throw the slant...KNOWING that's what he wanted to do all game and knowing he didn't have the arm to gun it in there when the defense is sitting on the route.

Franchise WR's are just growing on trees these days.


For **** sake.

Look at that. Bowe beating Champ Bailey 5 times for 85 yards. In one half of football.

http://i.imgur.com/Gv2V5.jpg

Let Bowe walk and continue to pay T-Jack 16M+?


Talk about wrong priorities.

Lets draft a rookie QB to start, and not keep his best weapon.


Thats a great idea.

Franchise 3-4 one dimensional non pass rushing DEs dont grow on trees.

LMAOLMAO

[QUOTE=mcaj22;9097026]it doesnt matter if it is his blind side or not. Jason Peters is and was the best LT last season and still has to block most teams best pass rusher on the left the side.

They replaced him with like King Dunlap Or some shitter from the Bills. It's not an argument fail when a 5 x Pro Bowl and 4 x All Pro player goes down with an injury.[/Q

Do you understand or have you actually ever watched a game of football? I would take Mike Vick over matt casshole all day every day and twice on Sunday. At least he tries to make plays.

Get your facts straight and then come back and post. Fuqtard.

Michael Vick 2.0

Where did I say that???????

Uhh, here.
Lol. Tyson's cap number next year is 17M.

Yep, Bowe is such a huge diva because he points at his jersey name. STFU
****ing stupid.

Mike Vick has been in a NFC championship game. What has your boy Dick Stanzi done??