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L.A. Chieffan 03-29-2012 11:04 AM

Why do the Dallas Cowboys get sucked off so much?
 
I really don't get it. Why are they always talked about?

I was watching PTI yesterday and they're talking about if you could own a sports franchise which would it be. Kornheiser say either the Yankees or the Cowboys because they're the two dominating teams in their respective sports.

What?

They haven't won anything in almost twenty years. Hell before the playoff win in 2010 it had been almost as long for them as it has been for the Chiefs. Yet every year we hear before the season about how good the Cowboys are going to be like its a given. I'm not a hater on the Cowboys, I'm pretty neutral, I just dont get the media slob job.

WhiteWhale 03-29-2012 11:06 AM

Some people are still living in 1995.

Bowser 03-29-2012 11:06 AM

'MERICAS TEAM

SuperChief 03-29-2012 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8501822)
'MERICAS TEAM

This. ****ing this. ****ing stoopid.

Deberg_1990 03-29-2012 11:13 AM

Their fanbase is huge. Probably the largest in Pro Sports besides the Yankees if i had to guess.

More fans = more ratings= media talks about you more.


Doesnt matter how good or bad the team is.

L.A. Chieffan 03-29-2012 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8501822)
'MERICAS TEAM

How is that though? They were good 35 years ago, John Facenda says this in a voice over and now were still stuck with this shit?

L.A. Chieffan 03-29-2012 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8501838)
Their fanbase is huge. Probably the largest in Pro Sports besides the Yankees if i had to guess.

More fans = more ratings= media talks about you more.


Doesnt matter how good or bad the team is.

How is this though? Are Cowboy fans learning impaired? I get it if you're from Dallas but how did it get so big if they're just not that good?

King_Chief_Fan 03-29-2012 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8501814)
I really don't get it. Why are they always talked about?

I was watching PTI yesterday and they're talking about if you could own a sports franchise which would it be. Kornheiser say either the Yankees or the Cowboys because they're the two dominating teams in their respective sports.

What?

They haven't won anything in almost twenty years. Hell before the playoff win in 2010 it had been almost as long for them as it has been for the Chiefs. Yet every year we hear before the season about how good the Cowboys are going to be like its a given. I'm not a hater on the Cowboys, I'm pretty neutral, I just dont get the media slob job.

Major team with ridiculous resources and following. Whose stadium says more about $$$ than Jerry World......and what is the NFL about?? $$$$$$

Amnorix 03-29-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8501842)
How is that though? They were good 35 years ago, John Facenda says this in a voice over and now were still stuck with this shit?

They were consistently very good for 30 years. As consistently good as any team in NFL history. Over that time they built up a huge fanbase across the country.

They've done nothing in 15+ years, but it's like the Celtics, who were also dormant for 15 or whatever years but as soon as they were good again...

Amnorix 03-29-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8501844)
How is this though? Are Cowboy fans learning impaired? I get it if you're from Dallas but how did it get so big if they're just not that good?

Let me guess -- your'e 30 years old or younger? Don't remember Tom Landry and all that...?

They really were America's team in many ways. Consistently on MNF when that really was THE game of the week, etc. etc.

L.A. Chieffan 03-29-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8501850)
They were consistently very good for 30 years. As consistently good as any team in NFL history. Over that time they built up a huge fanbase across the country.

They've done nothing in 15+ years, but it's like the Celtics, who were also dormant for 15 or whatever years but as soon as they were good again...

Yes but the Celtics have many many Championships. Only the Lakers can compare when it comes to titles. Steelers have more titles than the Cowboys and Niners have just as many. I dont see Niners being slobbed every year

L.A. Chieffan 03-29-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8501857)
Let me guess -- your'e 30 years old or younger? Don't remember Tom Landry and all that...?

They really were America's team in many ways. Consistently on MNF when that really was THE game of the week, etc. etc.

and this makes them relevant today because?

Amnorix 03-29-2012 11:23 AM

Cowboys have been in the playoffs 30 years in the 47 years since the advent of the Super Bowl era. From 1966 to 1985 they went EVERY year excepting 1974 and 1984. That's making the playoffs damn near every year for 20 years in a row. :O

Playoff appearances (30)
NFL: 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1985, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009

Mr. Laz 03-29-2012 11:24 AM

Tons of people and money in Texas so they get tons of media love.

people are stupid enough to follow the media

Amnorix 03-29-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8501861)
Yes but the Celtics have many many Championships. Only the Lakers can compare when it comes to titles. Steelers have more titles than the Cowboys and Niners have just as many. I dont see Niners being slobbed every year


Niners SUCKED forever, then were GREAT for 12 or 15 years, then went back to sucking. And by sucking, I don't mean mediocre, I mean HORRIFIC. Pre-Walsh they were one of the worst NFL teams.

Plus the Cowboys were great early in the NFL's history, when it was rising as a television power and becoming America's favorite sport. The NFL came along alot later.

Count historical MNF appearances, and I bet it's Cowboys over Niners by 4:1 or more.

I'm NOT a huge Cowboys fan, FTR, and I hate Jerry Jones. Just trying to explain why I think it is what it is.

L.A. Chieffan 03-29-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8501867)
Cowboys have been in the playoffs 30 years in the 47 years since the advent of the Super Bowl era. From 1966 to 1985 they went EVERY year excepting 1974 and 1984. That's making the playoffs damn near every year for 20 years in a row. :O

Playoff appearances (30)
NFL: 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1985, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009

and theyve won ONE game since 1996.

Amnorix 03-29-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8501866)
and this makes them relevant today because?


because lots of older farts love them across the country, and you gotta advertise Geritol and Viagra somewhere...?

L.A. Chieffan 03-29-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8501878)
because lots of older farts love them across the country, and you gotta advertise Geritol and Viagra somewhere...?

baby boomers are lame

Amnorix 03-29-2012 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8501876)
and theyve won ONE game since 1996.


But being in the hunt, and giving your fans hope, is a big part of keeping your fan base.

The Red Sox didn't win diddily for 80 years but the fans were fanatical because they had personality, and personalities, and were in the hunt many years. Even the heartbreak years builds resolve and love in the fan base.

To LOSE fans, you must SUCK.

Amnorix 03-29-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8501879)
baby boomers are lame

Lame or not, there's 40 million of 'em or whatever, so...

L.A. Chieffan 03-29-2012 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8501886)
Lame or not, there's 40 million of 'em or whatever, so...

just die already. :D

BigMeatballDave 03-29-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8501875)
Niners SUCKED forever, then were GREAT for 12 or 15 years, then went back to sucking. And by sucking, I don't mean mediocre, I mean HORRIFIC. Pre-Walsh they were one of the worst NFL teams.

Plus the Cowboys were great early in the NFL's history, when it was rising as a television power and becoming America's favorite sport. The NFL came along alot later.

Count historical MNF appearances, and I bet it's Cowboys over Niners by 4:1 or more.

I'm NOT a huge Cowboys fan, FTR, and I hate Jerry Jones. Just trying to explain why I think it is what it is.

So 3-13 and 1-15 doesn't classify a 'sucking'?

BigMeatballDave 03-29-2012 11:36 AM

If the Vikings weren't so ****ing reeruned, Dallas would not have had that success in the 90s.

Molitoth 03-29-2012 11:37 AM

During the 90's Dynasty, they hitched a shitload of bandwagon fans.

Fish 03-29-2012 11:39 AM

Your Mom is like the Dallas Cowboys. Hasn't looked good for 20 years, yet millions across the country still line up to get in for some reason. They always overpay for a very subpar performance, but keep coming back. She keeps saying that one of these days she'll break that record for the most people inside at one time. And though she's given it plenty of attempts, the results are just never good enough to claim the title. But still, the performances in the 70's through the 90's will always keep her relevant with guys talking around the watercooler.

jspchief 03-29-2012 11:40 AM

Because Jerry Jones is a media darling. He's a star in the eyes of sports reporters.

Unlike Opie Hunt and his tightly clenched penny.

Amnorix 03-29-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8501895)
So 3-13 and 1-15 doesn't classify a 'sucking'?


Of course it does, but those types of years were VERY few and far between. Hell, 3 years after 1-15 they won the first of another set of Super Bowls.

20 straight winning seasons (NFL Record)

8 Super Bowl appearances (ties NFL Record)

You can bitch about it, but it is what it is.


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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8501902)
If the Vikings weren't so ****ing reeruned, Dallas would not have had that success in the 90s.

Completely irrelevant.

If Golden State wasn't so ****ing reeruned, Red Auerbach doesn't get Parish and McHale and put together the Big 3. If the Rochester Royals don't use the first pick in the NBA draft in 1956 on Sihugo Green, then Red Auerbach doesn't get Bill Russell and win 98 straight and 110 out of 13 championships. If 31 teams aren't reeruned and spend 198 picks picking players NOT named Tom Brady before the Pats take him in the 6th. Etc. ad infinitum.

BoneKrusher 03-29-2012 11:41 AM

Maybe its the Size Matters theory?

Texas is the largest state in the US.

Amnorix 03-29-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8501919)
Maybe its the Size Matters theory?

Texas is the largest state in the US.

Combine with being huge football fans. Rangers and Astros don't matter THAT much, but TExas is big on football so yeah, that helps.

PunkinDrublic 03-29-2012 11:51 AM

As shitty as Jerry Jones has been as a GM the last 15 years he has done a good job at marketing the team. There's a reason why they split training camp between San Antonio and southern California. There's a reason why JJ built the largest stadium in the world. JJ wants to get the Cowgirl brand out there as much as possible. If they want to be a glamour team that lives in the past that's fine but to borrow a Texas term, they are rapidly becoming all hat and no cattle the last 15 years. If they have a huge fanbase around the country it's because they've been marketed that way.

Bowser 03-29-2012 11:53 AM

Opie Hunt. That has a chance to stick.

mr. tegu 03-29-2012 11:53 AM

Well if you are looking at it as to "why" you might own a team and you say Cowboys and Yankees, then its pretty simple. Money, enough said.

Setsuna 03-29-2012 11:55 AM

The hate on CP is in epic proportions right now. Laughable ROFL

Ebolapox 03-29-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8501919)
Maybe its the Size Matters theory?

Texas is the largest state in the US.

alaska.

BigMeatballDave 03-29-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8501948)
The hate on CP is in epic proportions right now. Laughable ROFL

Run along and now and toss your daddy's salad.

Mile High Mania 03-29-2012 12:11 PM

Lots of good detail was provided earlier...

The Cowboys were huge in the 60s/70s/ some of the 80s/90s.

Don Meredith, Roger Staubach, Troy Aikman...

30 playoff appearances, 21 Division Titles, 10 Conference Championships (8 modern era) and 5 Super Bowl Titles - '71, '77, '92, '93, '95

Texas is a big state, loves football ... The Cowboys (and their cheerleaders) were dominant and popular during the important early years and rise of the NFL. When the NFL on TV really took off, the Cowboys were a big part of it. Meredith was on MNF after he retired - did I mention the cheerleaders?

Sure, they haven't done much in the last 15 years - so the younger generation of football fans don't get it and don't view them as America's Team. So, in 20 years... that moniker likely isn't used as much, if at all.

Three SBs in the 90s really goes a long way in helping the last generation of fans (bandwagon and other) continue to make them a big draw with ratings.

Fact is - when the Cowboys are on TV - ratings go up.

And, I hate the Cowboys as much as anyone... maybe more, but you have to understand more than just the last 15 years.

Coogs 03-29-2012 12:11 PM

It's kind of like your lovefest with Cassel. Nobody here gets that either!

Mile High Mania 03-29-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 8501941)
As shitty as Jerry Jones has been as a GM the last 15 years he has done a good job at marketing the team. There's a reason why they split training camp between San Antonio and southern California. There's a reason why JJ built the largest stadium in the world. JJ wants to get the Cowgirl brand out there as much as possible. If they want to be a glamour team that lives in the past that's fine but to borrow a Texas term, they are rapidly becoming all hat and no cattle the last 15 years. If they have a huge fanbase around the country it's because they've been marketed that way.

Excellent post.

L.A. Chieffan 03-29-2012 12:23 PM

All I care about is winning. If you haven't won anything since your cheerleaders were still in diapers who gives a shit?

Extra Point 03-29-2012 12:26 PM

Dandy Don and Lipton Tea approve this thread.

Mile High Mania 03-29-2012 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8502068)
All I care about is winning. If you haven't won anything since your cheerleaders were still in diapers who gives a shit?

So, are you saying there's no point in being a KC fan? And, by that definition it was 17 years ago when the Cowboys last won a title, so even they're youngest Cheerleaders were likely out of diapers by then.

L.A. Chieffan 03-29-2012 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 8502106)
So, are you saying there's no point in being a KC fan?

there would be no point for the media to talk about them 24/7

Mile High Mania 03-29-2012 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8502112)
there would be no point for the media to talk about them 24/7

I live in Dallas, so it's hard for me to say what is said outside of Dallas... do you honestly read news on Dallas 24/7?

L.A. Chieffan 03-29-2012 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 8502123)
I live in Dallas, so it's hard for me to say what is said outside of Dallas... do you honestly read news on Dallas 24/7?

its cowboy bukkake everyday man! wake up1! its everywhere!

Psyko Tek 03-29-2012 01:29 PM

The cowboys were heavy promoted from the beginning to help bury the dallas texans and the AFL

Mile High Mania 03-29-2012 01:32 PM

Well, at least Tebow and Manning have done a good job of diverting attention towards Dallas...

RealSNR 03-29-2012 01:49 PM

I have a bigger question:

Why do the Miami Dolphins get sucked off so much?

Seriously. That team consistently has AT LEAST 3 prime time appearances every god damn season. They don't have the fan base, they don't have the wins, and they don't have any stars.

Whiskey tango foxtrot

ChiefsCountry 03-29-2012 01:52 PM

Dallas was good at the right times. When the Baby Boomers got into sports and when Gen Y started. Perfect storm.
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RealSNR 03-29-2012 01:52 PM

Another question mark: Notre Dame football. Did they really have that many fans when they were good for decades?

The way TV Networks broadcast that school, you'd think it was still the 1980s for crying out loud.

Sorry, Pest, but you can't deny it's been a long freakin time since your school was relevant.

L.A. Chieffan 03-29-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8502445)
Another question mark: Notre Dame football. Did they really have that many fans when they were good for decades?

The way TV Networks broadcast that school, you'd think it was still the 1980s for crying out loud.

Sorry, Pest, but you can't deny it's been a long freakin time since your school was relevant.

Totally agree and I'm a huge Irish fan

Pasta Little Brioni 03-29-2012 03:24 PM

They have the biggest bunch of dumb****s following them that don't know a lick about football.

L.A. Chieffan 10-01-2012 09:20 PM

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Psyko Tek 10-01-2012 10:21 PM

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L.A. Chieffan 10-01-2012 10:23 PM

Dolphins cheerleaders are hotter

Chiefshrink 10-01-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8501838)
Their fanbase is huge. Probably the largest in Pro Sports besides the Yankees if i had to guess.

More fans = more ratings= media talks about you more.


Doesnt matter how good or bad the team is.

This !

Just like the Jets, Dolphins,Giants, 49ers, even when these teams sucked and the Jets and Dolphins do at the present time. Big market sports media darlings:thumb:

Chiefshrink 10-01-2012 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 8502352)
Well, at least Tebow and Manning have done a good job of diverting attention towards Dallas...

I am convinced the Jets org totally acquired Tebow to divert attention away from the Jets FO drama mess they have made this last year. But when you get shut out 34-0 and still stand by Sanchez,(now I am no Tebow fan) but you have to at least entertain the idea of getting more snaps for Timmy. But no way in hell do they want to risk allowing ugly QBing blessed by God to start winning games in the 4th quarter only to have QB controversy come to the Jets.

Easy 6 10-01-2012 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8501875)
Plus the Cowboys were great early in the NFL's history, when it was rising as a television power and becoming America's favorite sport.

This.

Plus the fact that Jerruh is a real deal businessman... he sells the SH*T out of that team, but.. he's a latter day Al Davis in many ways, the know it all meddler who somehow undermines everything beneath him, all hat.

jspchief 10-01-2012 10:43 PM

ftr this is a 7 month old thread that someone bumped to further his douchebag act.

Dayze 10-01-2012 10:47 PM

Because of their "manscaping"

L.A. Chieffan 10-01-2012 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8969275)
ftr this is a 7 month old thread that someone bumped to further his douchebag act.

FTR FU


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