Have an IT job interview in the morning.....
 

After a 2 1/2 year absence from the dreadful IT industry, I have a job interview in the morning...

I am not really nervous, but more sick to my stomach than anything. I thought once I left that shit, I would never have to look back... Well thanks to the economy the flying industry is basically shit plus I cant get even get a sniff with my flight hours for a flying job. Just about everyone is laying off pilots right and left.


So instead of starving my family to death I have sucked up my pride and sent out some resumes. How can someone get excited about something the despise so badly?

Any thoughts? I know I need to keep things rolling and help relieve some of the stress from the wife and family. That what is important.

You should send out your resumes to drug cartels. Perhaps they are in need of wily pilots.

Is working in IT really that bad. I hope not cause i'm going to school for computer networking, also other IT based education

You got to do what you got to do man.

Do you really hate it all that much? At least you wont be out digging ditches all day in the hot sun.

I always thought you were a paid pilot. Good luck with the interview. It's tough out there and we've been fortunate enough to be largely unaffected and prospering in it. I wish you the same.

Someone once told me to NEVER pursue passion in the workplace. He was an IT guy. Sorry.

I would be studying tonight if I was you. Try to bring that information back out of the memory banks into easily accessible info.

I'm not really persuing passion, but i would like to enjoy somewhat and not hate my job like I do now

If you like the schooling then you're on your way. If not, abort.

I spent 12 years in the career field working at a Sr Network Engineer level. I hit job and career burnout... I worked for several different companies over that time and its the same thing regardless of where you go.

I did hit the wall and totally lost any desire to work with anyone in the IT industry... 90% of the time I cant stand any IT people I work with...

I was a paid pilot, but they are paying right now... Trips have fell off to basically nothing...

Good luck.

your main problem is going to be getting started. No matter how many certifications and degrees you have, if you don't have experience its really hard right now to get someone to take a chance on you.

I.T. jobs are no different from other fields. Depends on how the company treats you, views your value to the company.

have reviewed a few things, called some buddies for info...

I had no idea bro. I'm sorry to hear it.

I do find alot of what i'm learning interesting, but don't really like going to school with a bunch of computer geeks and i know i'll be working with a bunch when i graduate, but hey if the money's good i guess i can deal with it

its okay...

i am going to use this time to complete the last class for my BS and start a MS in aviation managment this coming summer...

If anything maybe I can get into an aviation company as an executive level employee...

Thats another thing, I have absolutely no experience doing anything IT related. I'm only 22 and have been a machinist ever since i joined the work force when I turned 18

He'd probbably make more money operatng a backhoe.

This is where I fail... I 99% of the time have nothing in common with the people I work with...

after work I want to go to a bar and grab a beer, wings and catch some football, basketball etc... They would rather stay late, masturbate each others hard drives and go home to surf kiddie porn....

After awhile it grates on you...

The last round of interviews I did were pretty healthy. I guess too many braindumpers are making it past the interview and flopping when they hit the real world.

I always felt that I can talk with someone for about 5 mintues and can tell whether they know what they are talking about or not. I think most senior I.T. guys can.

heck who knows... But this is a very very sweet paying gig.

hey i'm just like you bro. I'm tired of hearing these assholes talk about being nationally ranked in halo, and playing in call of duty tournaments. I don't give a **** about that shit. I wanna get down on some madden

90% of my trainign is all hands on. I am not a paper ccie or msce... You can look at my resume and see that I have not bullshitted my way through this industry...

PM me your email and i will send you my resume.

You need experience. Volunteer at a non profit. Work part time, do desktop support anything.

my advice:

1) don't admit you hate IT and you're just going back temporarily. Make up some bullshit about how you miss it and flying wasn't for you.

2) There are plenty of us who grab beers after work and hang out. You probably have just been stuck working in shitty places. If you can afford to, be picky about where you work.

It will take some time to get used too.... but do agree, i would rather kick back for some college basketball at a sports bar with the guys than I would going home to play Halo with rest of queerbaits..

Yeah I feel the same way. Once you hit 10 years of experience, you would think that your not faking it but they still drill you.

There is a temp agency here that employs part time for IT gigs, but you have to be A+ certified which I am not

nah - My boss is ****ing amazingly brilliant, but I got past him. Shit I even kept it up long enough that I got a promotion last year. He's just now realizing that I'm a lazy bastard who pulls everything out of his ass at the 11th hour.

Oh I will, my hope is they have an airplane, it is a pretty big company here in OKC.... They are looking for a SR Net Admin.... Somehting I can do in my sleep....

I am hoping they will have an airplane so I can work my way into that department from the IT department...

A+ cert is very over rated....


Honestly, when I was hiring people, I avoided all those certs and wouldnt hire people based on papers, but based on abilities and personality.

LMAO Nice post. Welcome to Chiefsplanet n00b.

I just started my associates degree program, and have heard different stories about guys just having a 2 yr degree. In general how much do you guys think I start out making as a yearly salary

my guess is upper 20's to low 30's......

I would go ahead and get the BS before I went into the industry... Gives you a massive leg up on 75% of the people you compete with...

thank you sir, i've been a lurker for a while now just recently decided to get an account and start posting. I respect alot of your guys opinions and felt like getting in on the action

You have got to pound the pavement. Call non profits, see if the local junior college needs help desk support, whatever. You have to stand out.
Ceritfications will help you with word searchs in job databases, HR, some non-technical managers, but in the real world they don't mean chit.

Good luck man. You've put in a lot of time, and effort in your flying; hopefully this is just temporary and you can get back in it when this economy pick up again.

It'll be tough - getting back into something you hated in the first place etc. I am/was there. Definitely not fun. Just try to not let it get to you once you're back in the IT world etc. That's what I have to do/continually work on doing (albeit in a different industry).

Good luck man. It'll work out.

yeah i've heard anywhere from 35-45k which if ****ing sweet for me right now but i know that getting BS is definately where the real money starts kickin

God! I know the fuggin feeling. I have a 2 bosses that's continually checking internet usage and tracking emails. It's so bad that 1 has resorted to waking up peoples black screens (by moving the mouse) to see what windows they have open. I got offered a company phone and told them to shove it up their ass. No way they're gonna give me a phone with no texting capabilities and they keep track of everything you do with it. I have a feeling they're upset because I use my personal phone for work and they can't track my txts which is what I'm left with for entertainment since they're now monitoring Inet usage.

Then there's the geeks. Only one "grab a beer" person and she's a sorority type female. I'm trying to inch my way out of IT as well. Must get things worked out in order to do so but the micromanaging is slowly taking me there.

True dat but once you get real world experience and verifiable refrences, degrees are not important, unless you want to get into management.

You're doing what you have to do to make ends meet, an honorable pursuit unertaken by many before you. If you have to do it you can either hate it or choose to accept it and make the best of it while you have your eyes open for something better. The latter makes you more fun when you get home.
As does stopping off for a toddy or three after work.

thanks for the advice i will keep all that in mind.

(btw dude you avatar is the shit, love that ass)

FWIW: help desk people are the coolest in IT. The higher ups are so into their self help seminars and books it's rediculous.

Designed by AriChiefs, who is also pretty advanced in tech skills. Would be a good resource also.

Good luck RR. If it doesn't work out you can go back to western Kansas and...


Warm. Up. The. Tractor. ;)

Been there and done that.... The parinoid and panic IT people will drive you nuts... Typical of guys that never had a date in school and havent had some nookie since nookie had them...

I would if it would stop raining....

Everyone has to deal with idiots above them. So I got a new domain. About 100 servers. Need to push out a WSUS client and the local policy to tell it to get its updates from the WSUS master server. I create the GPO push it out and every single server worked perfectly. The next day the idiot team lead comes in and tells me to create a local GPO. I explain in very simple terms that the domain wide policy that I made will over rule any local policy I create. After awhile he finally admits this is true. But he still wants me to set the local policy up also to make sure that in case the domain policy fails we will have a local policy as a backup. I further explain if the policy fails so does the pssword policy, the rights to resources, etc, He says I don't care. So I spent 4 days of my life logging onto each frigging server and settting up a local policy that will be overwritten daily.:banghead:

ROFL

No way would I have done that on the local level... I would of told him to get ****ed and do it himself... That is micromanaging bullshit that pisses me off to no end.... No way in hell would I let him get away with that unless he wanted his ass ****ing beat..

Some of you are really bigoted towards computer geeks. They're people too, you know.

I figured I'm getting way over paid for my job so if they want me to do BS work, so be it.

I will always always be a bigot towards computer geeks... The are computer geeks and should be treated as computer geeks...

it would of taken me more than 2 weeks, I would of milked that for everything possible...

Maybe even up to a month...

Takes one to know one doesnt it?

Nah, then my real work would have just piled up.

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You think?

Fair enough...

Sounds like working for someone else is unbearable. Sack up and do your own thing, because no one ever tells you what to do then....


Oh....other than every client, and then there are the weeks where you don't get any billable work done because you're screwing with taxes and payroll and proposals and bids and RFQs and customer service and product development and marketing.

Appreciate the opportunties you have, some of you sound like Derrick Johnson.

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Seriously. Postal time. Can you just jack with his computer? Like force a desktop backround of a fat chick or something? You techie guys can do anything.

Well, good luck Reerun. Tear the shit up and get momma a chushy bank account.

Things are tough right now. I've definitely been swallowing some shit this year that I wouldn't have in the past. I hate to say "happy to have a job", but there is some truth in it.

the network end is full of dweebs. Creativity, design, development are completely different.

Yeah, hardware sucks.

Everyone I hear who says they hate IT is a Network Admin or on the networking side... or at least supports hardware in one way or another.

While I'm not a "it's a hardware problem" type of person, I couldn't do it all the time... I did it for a couple of years and that was enough.

I heard McDonald's is hiring.

nlm Hardware. I hate dealing with hardware.

Reerun, I think the key to job satisfaction in this situation is to pretend that the network stuff is a critical avionics box and you're over the Pacific dropping at 500 feet per minute, and you have to get the avionics box working within 40 minutes or you're going to die.

good luck :thumb:

The problem with IT is that your superiors sometimes may not understand how hard it is to get some stuff done. They ask for unrealistic deadlines and unrealistic goals and expect you to get it done.

I work as a full time programmer and it's sucking the life out of me.

Does that mean I hate my job. Not really, sometimes I like that it provides variety for me. Different challenges, different issues to deal with. It's economy proof as well.

Good luck. It's better than many jobs out there. Trust me.

The people I work with,none and I mean none whatsoever has any interest in Football or Basketball. I can live with that because some like to talk about other issues that I have some interest in (history, politics, etc) or else I would shoot myself.

Best of luck to you.

How can you make it throughout the day without internet?

No complaints here...

I'm glad I'm not in IT. Sounds like most people hate it.

It would be a great job if it wasn't for all of the other people.

Sorry, the old man in me forced me to post...probably a mistake.

Good luck on the interview.

It seems you are destined to fail though. If you are truly trying to re-enter the industry as you have depicted, you'll hate it, yourself, and everyone else within a couple of months. Have you ever heard of self fulfilling prophecies? I have been out of 'normal' work environment for about a year now, and I was glad to be away from some things. I too am considering a re-entry into IT...but I can tell you...not with such an attitude. There were annoying people, micro managers, silly executive decisions, etc. BUT these exist in ANY office environment. The key for me will be to focus on the positives...and if you really can't find any...

I understand that 'putting food on the table' is a requirement, but if you truly despise the work, your attitude, opinions, communication and general demeanor will do you and your family no good.

Instead of going back into IT, maybe you should look at another career...I mean that's what you did in aviation right? And apparently you enjoyed it? In the meantime find some company that needs a contractor for a short term project...recruiters have tons of these(well, at least they do in programming)...the job will be a lot easier when you know it simply is a stop-gap while you are searching for something more fulfilling...and the stress will be greatly reduced.

I hear that. I hate people.

Wow. I love the IT field and feel blessed to get paid for what I love to do. I believe you need to like what you do for a living. It will make yor whole life better. If you don't like IT then don't do it and leave it for the people who like to do it.
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Yeah... when I was in tech support, I didn't even mind the customers nearly as much as the quality dept. They just didn't understand that computer software and hardware doesn't often go by the book, and they actually scored down for thinking outside of the box.

As far as my current job, it's the status meeting overload that gets to me the most. I usually have a project manager from both my company and the customer's company, plus my own department's meetings.... what's my status? I'm in a f***ing meeting. When I get out of the meeting, I'll be 30 minutes behind, plus the amount of time it takes me to remember what the hell I was doing before I had to go. Oh, but I have another meeting after this, to tell another group that my status is that I just got out of a f***ing meeting and now I'm in another f***ing meeting. I'll be sure to get some work done when I get home.

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Heh... I lived in Omaha a year, and hardly anyone I dealt with at work cared about football. It was all about soccer. Even now, there are only a few people I talk to about college football, and a couple aren't even Husker fans.

Yep, all that said, I still love working in IT... I've thought about moving closer to the business side, whether it's project management or whatever, but I just can't do it. I'd much rather be on the technical side of it.... and I couldn't imagine doing it if I didn't really enjoy it, because it's a ton of work at times and can get pretty stressful.