LJ Could be a 2000 yd back this year
 

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• KC plays 9 games against teams who finished 21st or worst against the run
• Chan is going to feature Larry
• Chiefs face only 3 opponents in '08 with a top 15 run D

If he does have a PB year, it will make Carl's decision to give him all that $ a bit easier to accept. Personally, I don't blame LJ for the yucky ground attack last year.

12 more days till Madden 2009 comes out!!!!!!

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He'll have to have better blocking to perform a 2000 yd. season ....

Anybody could with 600+ carries.

LJ was on pace for 1,200 last year with the worse O-line in the league. I don't know if 2,000 is ever going to be possible with our current O-line, but he'll be a force this year. 1,500 yards is my guess.

Sounds more plausible than my homerific prediction, but I think as a team the Chiefs may get 2k.

I have no doubt that LJ has the ability for 2,000.

What I see Chan doing is also getting LJ the ball in space on screens, swing passes and check downs... all plays that Larry excels in and can break for big gains.
I think the competition with Kolby and Jamal Charles is ONLY a good thing for the Deisel.
I also think if (God forbid) LJ gets hurt, our 2 and 3 backs can shine.

I could live with that obviously. But ive said many times, the Chiefs need to limit LJ to 20-25 carries a game and around 1200-1400 yards a season to prolong his career.

Give those extra carries and yards to Charles and Smith.

LMAO Homerism extreme.

I hope they do give LJ more swing passes ... I expected more of that sort of thing last year, but Solari was clueless.

Possible, but unlikely. We'll see. I'm looking for him to stay healthy and get angry. The rest will work itself out.

I think there was a diagram of Hutard throwing LJ a swing pass floating around here. ROFL

I pick 8th in my fantasy league, which is just about exactly where I wanted. Might be a wee bit of a reach, but I'm should be able to pick LJ there. I do expect a big year, especially with catching more passes out of the backfield.

No way, no how, not behind this inexperienced offensive line. And that's not even emntioning Albert's injury.

:rolleyes:

I see another disappointing season in store for LJ with Niswanger and whoever the hell we have on our right side as lineman...

Dreamland

I think the Chiefs will do everything they can to limit LJ's touches this year. You definately want to re-establish him but I can't see them running him to death for no reason.

why limit his touches this year? to save the guy for next year? i think we all know that's not a good idea, who knows what next year will bring. you have to play to win now as players and coaches. also lj has always gotten better as the game goes on and the carries add up. he's BY FAR a better runner in the 4th qtr than the 1st.

it depends on length and depth of stroke

I doubt I'll play fantasy football this year, but I'd pick LJ. Good pick, I think he's been projected as a #7 pick so far.

Chan Gailey told us point blank Larry was a "25 carries a game RB." That's 400 carries.

I won't be shocked if he comes close to that.

I agree

this years offense will be as bad as last years at first

Nice knowing you LJ. You had a nice career while it lasted.

The Titanic was on pace to cross the ocean.

Just sayin'.....

Dinny

My point was that the worst 8 games of his career were still not that bad.

With our line the way it stands now.....Ummm, no.

They're run blocking pretty well up here. There's a noticeable difference from last year, especially in Waters.

That's great to hear, but LJ still isn't cracking 2K this year. I really don't expect much out of this years team. If our rooks get a lot of playing time and improve and we get a decent draft next season, we will be on the road to recovery. Don't get me wrong, we are headed in the right direction, but we are in for another ugly year.

I'm happy to hear that, but the "especially in Waters" comment is disturbing. We need the improvement to come just about everywhere else. I'm fine with status quo for Waters. (Although improvement is still welcome.)

Waters wasn't all that great last year, or even good.

There's improvement at center and left tackle (cross fingers). RG and RT are question marks.

If Albert is healthy, I expect us to run left on a lot of teams consistently.

I don't see it, not with Kolby showing what he could do last year and Charles on the squad now. That's 2 very good RBs that'll cut into LJ's carries.

Let's hope for no injuries before we start hoping for crazy stuff.

They already essentially ruined his career by giving him an NFL record of carries to sneak into the playoffs...

It's been prove time and time again you do not give someone 400 touches of the ball in a season it will significantly affect them.

You're wrong, Mecca. LJ looks great right now.

He's going to prove you wrong. DEAD WRONG.

LJ has the talent to put up 2,000 any year. He's a great HB.

That doesn't make it a good idea or something we should hope for. Getting to that number behind this line would mean an increase in carries and not YPC...

He looks great in practice against our crappy team....just wait, last year he showed significant decline in every category, my friends who live in other cities would send me emails saying "LJ looks done dude, he runs like he's dead"

Then he got hurt, a typical theme of guys who carried the ball that many times, history says he will now always be an injury prone player that doesn't resemble what he use to be.

Mecca, he looked great against the Vikings. Explosive. Quick. Powerful.

Keep spinning, Mr. Negative.

You were wrong last year about him....

Am I suppose to be impressed that he ran well against the Vikings backup crew?

Here we go again.

You know very well Adrian Peterson couldn't have run for shit behind our line last year.

IF THATS THE CASE then why not ride him as far as he goes? i honestly think lj can take quite the beating and will be fine

Why cant the Chiefs try and limit LJ carries to around 20 game average??? I dont get these idiots sometimes.

Id rather see LJ for 3-5 more years instead of two.

The other problem LJ is gonna have is our lack of threat in passing downs. Other then Bowe and TG we have dick in the receiving game.

Defenses are gonna stack stack stack the line regardless how much our OL has improved.

Well right now I'd say it's because you don't kill someone to win 5 games, I'd only support what they did to LJ 2 years ago if you could win a Superbowl doing it and he was at the end of his contract...

Now that the Chiefs (very stupidly) paid him they have no choice but to try to milk atleast 2 more years out of him, if they get close to 400 carries this year they'll have to get a new RB as early as next year.

I'm not worried about it because RB is an easy position to replace and should be one of the last pieces to put in place on a rebuilding team so they need to try to get this year and next year out of LJ before cutting him for a new younger drafted back when the team is ready.

Just a silly idea. He'd have to get 5 yards a carry at 400 carries to do so and that isn't happening. A more likely goal would be 20 carries a game at 4 yards a pop. 320 carries for 1280 yards rushing. That would be a pretty good year considering what we have on the o-line.

That's where the new audible system comes into play.

We won't be running into 9 man fronts stubbornly this year. We're going to play smart football.

And teams are going to be scared shitless of Bowe...he's a beast.

We'll see how that goes, I have a hard time seeing a defense get scared against an offense that is almost assured to rank in the bottom 5.

Chan Gailey does not frighten people.

He frightens me

Yeah, other than us.

I'm sure teams won't even bother trying to cover Bowe or Gono. Probably won't even try and stop LJ.

I mean, you're expected to have a $#itty offense. Who cares if there's any probowl or HOF talent there...

Maybe not, but he got pretty solid results out of mediocre players in Pitt and Miami. The guy has been a solid offensive coordinator in this league.

I have a feeling Brodie Croyle will frighten some people this year.














Unfortunately it will be Chiefs fans.

The NFL shook with fear when Al Saunders came to KC.

I think...

He's going to make you gasp in fright and in amazement. He's fitting the ball into some tight spaces for sure.

That wasn't the point the point was they'll likely see better offenses with more talent in most weeks, it isn't like we're gonna scare them NE or Indy style.

Will he make me gasp when someone grazes him and somehow it's a serious injury?

That's what worries me more than anything.

Until he proves that he isn't injury prone I fully believe he'll get injured. His frail frame doesn't really inspire my confidence in him taking a hit either.

Very good news. How's he throwing the ball under pressure?

A couple of times he's stepped up away from pressure and just fired it. I see him hitting hot reads against the blitz all the time. Brodie just looks downfield, he doesn't see the rush.

I'm sorry but the pressure of training camp?Don't get me wrong I know it's good for the players but the defense he's seeing right now wants him upright and healthy

Let's also understand that even if they were it's a front that involves Ron Edwards, Alphonso Boone and end and Pat Thomas playing MLB.

Oh, I know it isn't going to be the same as game action pressure. Claythan mentioned he was throwing the ball well and I was curious if he was just sitting back in an easy chair or if there were guys actually in his face.

chiefs suk

In GUN I trust!


Cause ya know, he once did something like 11-13 years ago.

That's a pretty fair statement at this time...

chiefs always suk

4ever

yeah he'll be dead in months

Fixed your post.

Brodie is just so damned skinny. If Merriman could essentially end the career of a rocked up Priest Holmes.....


And, if LJ tops 1,300 yards this year, I think you could say that would be a Herculean effort.

yeah but that hit on priest was just a freak thing

1000 yards would make me happy

What really worries me is the line sucks so bad LJ says to hell with this and gets a mysterious injury only to get our back-ups killed as well.I sure as hell hope I'm wrong.

Yeah, I know. But jesus, the kid needs to mix in a cheeseburger or something. No WAY is he over 175.

And, imho, 1,000 yards by a back is great, but it equals something like 62 yards a game over 16 games. I think 1,200 is a good number for backs to shoot for, also imho.

send some of the mrs chocolate chip cookies,that'll do it

Well, we'll know more about that if the Chiefs are 1-6. Everything I've seen or read says he is playing like a best right now. These two scrubs on Sirius NFL radio host a fantasy football show, and were saying people should wait until the second round before grabbing LJ, even though one was at the Chiefs/Vikes practice, and said LJ was running like a man possessed.

Heh. One of the guys talked about that very play where LJ bulldozed a Vikings DB.

He rolled his ankle on a routine tackle. Freak accident. Had nothing to do with amount of carries.

The big news here is that we don't have a rookie signal caller trying to resuscitate the league's most complex playbook for an aging O anymore. Gailey's O is desined to one thing: get the ball into the hands of your best players and let them make plays.

DUDE. He gets 9 games against bottom feeder rushing defenses in 2008. He has a new OC (Memo to Chiefs Planet: the R2P2 offense is no longer in stock) who has had outstanding success everywhere he's gone. 13 of the Chiefs games will be against teams that ranked 16th or worse in rushing defense.
Even with that lame OL last year, substitute Gailey for Solari and you have an automatic upgrade of 50% or better.
After NE beats the living snot out of us in Foxboro, its off to the record books for LJ!
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