Donks release Javon Walker
 

No link, but just reported on Outside the Lines.

Another winning move for Shanny.

Maybe now that EK is gone we can sign Walker to put sumpin on day a$$

Im actually kinda intrigued with him, if the knee checks out........:shrug:

must be a reason....

He is definetly worth a look if he is healthy

Well he was injured, but I do also recall some bad blood between him and the team.

Javon was injured and the bad blood came from his comments about "not feeling like a part of the team" as Brandon Marshall evolved in 2007 while Javon was nursing his injury. Denver traded for him with the injury concern and gave him a shot... he had a nice 2006 and then a gimpy 2007.

It's unfortunate, but he has issues with the idea that maybe he's not the #1 guy now... so, good luck in the future.

Yeah, Brandon Marshall definitely grew into a much better player throughout the season, which makes this move reasonable. The injury risk and the attitude problem just aren't worth it.
I would have done the same if I was them.

When is Pat Bowlin and the fans going to start to hold Shanahan responsible for all his ****ups? Pretty much every decision he has made at least in FA sucks ass. His drafts haven't fared much better either.

I don't know, why don't we ask Carl Peterson what he thinks?

I doubt he's going to want to come here and be #2 to Bowe.

Can't...he's on vacation.

99.9% of Chief fans hate Carl Peterson and want him fired. I don't hear a whole lot of bitching about Shanahan.

FYP

My boss is from Denver and is a Donk fan, he thinks Shanny walks on water

I know, I was just phacking with ya.

Speaking for myself I am okay with some of Shanny's moves not panning out because right or wrong he at least is always active. He comes out ahead in most of the trades/deals he makes and takes his shots to try for the next SB ring. IN today's NFL you never know how a player is going to pan out. Javon Walker turned into a whiny bitch girl when he lost his #1 slot to a young gun.
Phock him, it isn't Shanny's fault Walker would rather cry than try.

If anything I would like to see him a little less active in the FA market and concentrate more on building some young guys like he did last year.

ROFL

ROFL

Shanahan isn't hitting on 100% of his moves, but ... he has more successes than failures. And, he is more active than the average coach when it comes to changing things. Is it over the top sometimes? Possibly, but you can't say he is ever just "content".

I'm not going to fault him for taking a chance and failing...

The Plummer experiment was interesting, but you can't argue with the wins during that tenure. The revolving door at RB has been frustrating, but they've been successful more often than not.

The trade for Bailey worked... signing guys via FA like Lynch, Stokely and others have worked. There have been a fair share of failures as well during that time.

I look at the drafts and yes, there have been a number of misses. However, he's hit on several as well over the years.

The 2006 class is something that looks to be very nice.

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There were some forgettable drafts without a doubt in the years before 2005 and you see that now with the holes on the team.

I'm not saying the guy hasn't failed at times, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because to be honest... I'm not sure I like the idea of not having Shanahan as the coach right now.

2007 was only the 2nd losing season for Denver since 1995... that's a nice history of not sucking and something that speaks well to his ability to field a team that is better than "just average".

We'll see what happens this season.

I'd say 2006 was a good draft for the Donks.

I thought I read earlier this offseason that Walker wanted out of Denver over some bad blood and the fact that he said everywhere he looks he sees D. Williams. That would suck I think.

that'd be pretty effed up

read this on rotoworld:
Broncos released WR Javon Walker, according to ESPN's Michael Smith.
He's a big name, but Walker's contract and knee injury made it an easy choice by Denver. That no one chose to give up a late-round pick for Walker is telling. It's rumored that he could need microfracture surgery in the future, although he will have plenty of suitors lined up with MRI machines. Dallas, Washington, Philadelphia, and Tampa Bay have been rumored to be interested.

One season too late.

There is plenty of it going on around Denver.

I remember reading shortly after D.Williams was shot that Walker wanted out but was talked into staying. :shrug:

Maybe a change of scenery will help him. I say if he's reasonably priced and passes our physical, why not?

My question for vali and MHM is how much longer do you give Shanahan?

He has it as long as he wants it.

Two seasons more at the least would be my guess.

My question is who out there would I rather have coaching the Broncos?
Nobody comes to mind.

Eh, you've just gotten comfortable with him.

We'll give you Gunther for a coach. We'll even throw in some Gates BBQ.

There's no one I'd rather have. I'd settle for Fisher in the absence of Shanahan.

Throw in enough 'que and we might take that stiff Herm off your hands.

Bookmarked.

So you don't think his message is getting stale and what if he doesn't make the playoffs again this year?

The reason why I am asking it is just hard to imagine giving a coach 10 years + with little or no success in that time frame. I understand he won 2 SB and that gives him some lee way but when does that start to wear out?

I am one of those fans that wants to see Shanahan leave on his own terms... he's not doing anything to bury the franchise. Is he looking crazy at times with the moves and firing of coaches? Sure, but I know he's not happy with being mediocre.

Shanahan hasn't won a title since Elway... I get that, but Denver didn't win a title until they got Shanahan. It was a perfect time for the franchise in that sense.

Since that time, Denver has not struggled like many other teams.

So, no... he hasn't been perfect, but he's been better than most coaches and I trust him.

Jeff Fisher has been in TN longer (half a season) than Shanahan... TN has 2 fewer titles and fewer total wins overall. Why is he still their coach?

The Cowboys haven't won a playoff game since the 1996 season and since Shanahan took over in Denver, the Cowboys have had 5 (yeah, 1-2-3-4-5) head coaches. WOW.

KC has had 4 head coaches.

Oakland has had 7 head coaches.

SD has had 6 head coaches.

Insane. Something has to be said for consistency...

I think that is a valid question. I honestly don't know but if I was a Titans fan I would probably be wanting a change right about now.

I definitely think there needs to be some consistency but when does the need to be consistent and the need to win a SB cross? For Shanahan he already has won 2 so I understand that buys him some time but look at Billick, he won 1 SB and got canned after 7 years and he had a couple of good teams in there somewhere.

They need better QB and RB play as well....their defense has been solid over teh years.

ROFL

you've become a True Fan....Chiefs fans were where you are now a decade ago....

"Most Wins In the 90's!!!" - Carl Peterson


Shanahan has been grasping at straws for a while, and his FA moves are mostly bad to absolute disaster....your drafts haven't been much better...

that's almost as funny as tacojohn's "Plumber will take us to the Stuperbowl"

And Ian Gold follows Walker out the door. Didn't they give him a huge signing bonus a couple of years ago?

http://www.kansascity.com/491/story/511618.html

No. You're almost four decades removed from your team's last title. It's been only a decade for us.

We could reach your frustration level in another 25 years or so.

Has Shanarat won any playoff games since Elway retired?

I imagine Gold started packing his bags right about this time:

A few. Certainly more than Carl has since Montana left.

nope

you're all clearly in denial about Shanahan's moment having passed...when you start touting "regular season wins!!" as a measure of success, you've jumped the shark and become the Carl Peterson led Chiefs....

and your defense mechanisms are the same as our True Fans used....

Missed that tidbit. And that's a great signing for you guys, bastards.

Oh I know Peterlickers success rate in the playoffs has been dismal. I wasn't trying to say that the Chiefs had faired any better, I just can't remember a single playoff win for the donkeys since horseface retired.

I'll have to begin touting regular season wins before I can stop touting them.

I don't know any personal details about you, Can. Were you alive when the Chiefs took their last title?

If the Donkeys sign Briggs that is a very good signing. I hadn't heard that so thanks for the info.

uh, I was responding to milehigh's post....then you jumped into the conversation...I assumed you had read our posts since you chose to respond to them....my mistake....

So I can assume you've never seen your team win.

I'm just taking Mecca's word for it. That's safe, right?

They beat the Patriots and I think that is it.

:):cuss:

Alright Can then you tell me: who would I rather have coaching Denver than Shanny?

If the Chiefs sign him, he'll be an injury-prone bust.

If anyone else signs him, he'll be an All-Pro.

That's just how it goes.

Herman Edwards. Seriously. TAKE HIM PLEASE.

Just give Herm a few more years:D
Laugh my ass off at your avatar!