Chiefs cap room for 2013
How much do we have ATM? I know it has been addressed recently in another post nut I can't seem to find it. Lets assume we cut Jackson and Cassel outright.
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This is one thing I don't follow and don't really know the process...what counts against the team cap, what doesn't, how cutting a player effects the cap and why teams wait til June etc, the new CBA rules. This would be useful info if anyone can explain.
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2013 NFL Salary Cap Space (per http://nfltraderumors.co/nfl-team-cap-space/ )
Chiefs have 13.8 million, which is the fourth best. AFC East Bills: $11.7 million Jets: $4.2 million Dolphins: $7.0 million Patriots: $6.4 million AFC North Bengals: $9 million Browns: $14.5 million Ravens: $1.4 million Steelers: $1.1 million AFC South Colts: $5 million Jaguars: $20.1million Texans: $2.7 million Titans: $14.1 million AFC West: Broncos: $12.1 million Chargers: $2 million Chiefs: $13.8 million Raiders: $4.6 million NFC East: Cowboys: $3.7 million Giants: $2.2 million Eagles: $20.1 million Redskins: $3.3 million NFC North: Bears: $4.2 million Lions: $2.5 million Packers: $7.5 million Vikings: $8.4 million NFC South: Buccaneers: $11.7 million Falcons: $1.1 million Panthers: $4 million Saints: $2.9 million NFC West: 49ers: $579,000 Cardinals: $6.9 million Rams: $2 million Seahawks: $13.5 million |
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FS-Jarius Byrd (assuming he's not hit w/ the tag) CB-Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie WR-Greg Jennings OL-TBN VetQB-TBN |
Long rambling article.. but if you are really THAT interested (and don't mind the source):
http://arrowheadaddict.com/2012/10/1...cap-situation/ |
And one more site... good look at our contracts. Tamba is costing us alot up front, but after next year his salary drops.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/yearly/ |
Wow. That isn't nearly as much as I thought it would be. 13-14 Mil ATM.
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With a cap hit of $9,875,000 in 2013 for our beloved Matt Cassel, gotta think the Walrus is sharpening his axe right now. Then he has Tyson Jackson's $17,245,000 cap hit to address.
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Cut Cassel and Jackson, give their money to Bowe, Dorsey, Colquit and Albert.
Profit. |
The crazy thing is that with the new CBA, we're going to be paying a #1 QB 1/3rd of what Cassel made...dramatically improving QB play at 1/3rd the price.
Now THAT's the process. |
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Tyson Ackson has a 17 mil cap number? What idiot did...........Oh wait. Never mind.
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Pioli indeed |
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Pioli actually gave Jackson a contract extension last April that actually gave him MORE money over his original 57 million dollar rookie contract. It's like Pioli was trying to fail. Romeo Cassel Jackson |
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Unbelievable that Dungver and Philly have that much room. Philly has been spending big in free agency the last couple of years yet had $20 mil in cap space. Dungver gives Manning what? $25mil a year? And still has $12 mil left? Seems unlikely to me. But maybe I just don't get the cap
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Still, we don't have to worry too much about the cap. Good contracts for Charles, DJ, and Tamba once we get by next year. |
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Clark also mentioned that we would be carrying over the unused cap space from 2012 to 2013. So that should also increase our total numbers.
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Tyson Jackson’s contract
2009 $2,860,000 Cap Hit 2010 $3,575,000 Cap Hit 2011 $11,240,000 Cap Hit 2012 $6,775,000 Cap Hit $24,550,000 paid so far. 2013 $17,245,000 Cap Hit ChiefsGator already pointed out that we don’t save 17 million by cutting Jackson. Tyson has a $31 million guarantee, so we don’t save $17,245,000 by just cutting Jackson. If Jackson fits into the new Chiefs defense, maybe they can renegotiate a new contract. |
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I'm guessing some players earned player incentive in 2012 that will count vs 2013 cap.
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The cap is irrelevant.
It's all about guaranteed money, i.e., upfront bonuses. |
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I'm not entirely familiar with the salary cap process in the NFL. I know there are a lot of stipulations on how it works. My understanding of it is rather rudimentary though. I'm sure Cassel is due to hit a high number...so cutting him could save us a lot of $$$ this upcoming season. At the very least, we could restructure him to that of someone playing third string, which suits his talent level far better than number one overall. Also Jackson is due for some ungodly amount like $15 million. Restructuring his contract or outright cutting him should be something to consider. You can't help but wonder what exactly Scott 'Team-killer' 'Team-killer' 'Team-killer' Pioli was thinking by signing Cassel to a $63 million contract. And giving up a second for that steaming pile of suck? lol Good bye Scott 'Team-killer' 'Team-killer' 'Team-killer' Pioli!!!! Thats right up there with taking Tyson Jackson third overall... The Chiefs have a SIGNIFICANTLY brighter future now that he is gone. Edit: I love the "Scott" "Pioli[/b]" filter. Cant even say his name without that filter automatically kicking in! lol |
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If we have to pay Jackson that kind of money whether we cut him or not. He will stay and it is just another reason to hate Pioli. |
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Clark is so cheap
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"Jackson's 2013 base salary remains at $14.72 million, $3.22 million of which is guaranteed for injury and cap."
http://www.macsfootballblog.com/2012...-contract.html So, we could save $14.72 million perhaps. I heard a figure of $11 million somewhere else though. Either way, we save a lot cutting him, so I'm sure it happens or he restructures again. But, we aren't going to clear quite as much as some around here hope. |
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That's his salary for the 2013 season. It is NOT guaranteed. His guaranteed money is GONE and already paid out. $28 million. He has already made like $40 million as a Chief. We cut him tomorrow owe him nothing, no cap hit. |
Question: Can we still spread the cap hit across two years? This upcoming year is now his last, since the 2014 year was cut off his contract with the restructure. If not, then we can cut him sooner, rather than later.
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http://www.fantasysp.com/player/nfl/...sel-after-2012
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Jackson cut chiefs only on the hook for 3.2m
Cassel cut chiefs only on the hook for around 3.5m |
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That ended in 2009, IIRC. |
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Actually, it appears he has only made about $24 million, per this site. This year is the crazy one though. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-ci...tyson-jackson/ |
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I'm talking about Cassel, not Tyson Jackson.
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So, we end up with $17-20 mill in savings from cutting them. Of course, we need a QB (or two) and a DE as well. This is all elementary though, since our new signings are not likely to cost much against our cap anyway. |
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In 2014 Cassel is due 2,125,000 in bonuses, but again $250,000 of that is a workout bonus. |
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2024539.html |
The bottom line is that we are in a good position cap-wise, especially with Hali's salary (and cap hit) dropping 6 mill or so in 2014. Pioli left us with a couple good things. Low salaries on Charles, DJ, and Hali (besides next year).
We have a lot of positions to fill (and plenty of expensive fat to cut), but we are in very good shape currently. It would be hard to put us in cap trouble in the next two or three years. |
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From what I've read on multiple sites, the June 1 rule is as it always was. I guess I was wrong. I thought that the date was sooner now. But anyway, for those of you asking, yes any cap hit can be spread out if we wait until June 1 to cut the dead weight.
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13 million in cap space.
14 million for cutting Jackson 7 million for cutting Cassel That's 34 million worth of cap space to start with. Now we get to the interesting part...we were 15-20 million under the cap in 2012 and that number can be rolled over. That gives us around 50 million worth of cap space to work with if we max out everything and make the logical moves. PLENTY to re-sign Bowe, Albert, Colquit and Dorsey as well as locking up guys like Houston, Moeaki and Asamoah...as well as going fishing for some big fish. We are in a great spot capwise. |
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(1) For any player removed from the Team's roster, or whose Contract is assigned to another Club via waivers or trade, on or before June 1 in any League Year prior to the Final League Year, or at any time during the Final League Year, any unamortized signing bonus amounts will be included in Team Salary for such League Year, except that for each League Year preceding the Final League Year, each Club may designate up to two Player Contracts that, if terminated on or prior to June 1 and if not renegotiated after the last regular season game of the prior League Year, shall be treated (except to the extent prescribed by Section 6(d) (iv) below) as if terminated on June 2, i.e., the Salary Cap charge for each such contract will remain in the Club's Team Salary until June 2, at which time its Paragraph 5 Salary and any unearned LTBE incentives will no longer be counted and any unamortized signing bonus will be treated as set forth in Subsection (2) below. If acceleration puts a Team over the Salary Cap, the Team will have seven days to conform with the Salary Cap, but may not sign any players until there is Room to do so under the Salary Cap. http://images.nflplayers.com/mediaRe...Bookmarked.pdf |
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is Bowe definitely getting resigned?
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Matt Cassel
Tyson Jackson Stanford Routt Pioli buyout + dollars earned We've basically spent an entire year's salary cap supporting our dumbass GM and his bad decisions. |
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spending money wisely. |
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Clark has spent a lot of CASH. We were top 3 last season in cash spent. Clark just had to buy out 2 contracts in SP and RAC, more CASH. Every player we sign that has a signing bonus will be more cash. I know the Hunts are rich and all but there is a limit to how many multi-million dollars a person or business has in cash. |
please dont lock up Moeaki
flush turd out of this team. Need a real TE |
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Lets see how much sympathy he gets when he comes to the table with "Sorry guys, I couldn't spend the money necessary to field a respectable roster because I had to pay off MY ****ups." |
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He will be a star with Geno at QB...he could be a 800 yard guy EASILY. |
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So far, not so much. |
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Im in
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I would never consider cutting him before training camp although he's just as likely to end up on I.R. |
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I just think they bring in a much better TE, through the draft or FA. Not a Kevin Boss turd either. Like a Delanie Walker, Jared Cook, etc that will legit flat out just beat Moeaki out as the starter. And he could not even sniff the field because of it.
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