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Hammock Parties 09-06-2012 01:48 PM

Dexter McCluster will catch 90 balls
 
According to Jim Zorn, who talked to this fan on an airplane.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/9...s-brain-picked

Quote:

Zorn loves McCluster, predicted he would have 90 catches this year. (so pick him up on your fantasy wire, I did..)
I'm utterly horrified if this account is true. This means:

A)I will be destroyed in another bet.

B)Our offense will be a joke if McCluster touches the ball that much.

Sofa King 09-06-2012 01:48 PM

Who the **** is going to leave the lineup so he can do that?


EDIT: Time for a new QB coach.

Reerun_KC 09-06-2012 01:49 PM

C) youre a complete failure when it comes to football knowledge.

BigMeatballDave 09-06-2012 01:50 PM

90 seems a tad high...

Reerun_KC 09-06-2012 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8883744)
90 seems a tad high...

yeah one would think...

O.city 09-06-2012 01:51 PM

If he has that many catches, how many does Bowe, Baldwin and Breaston get? We aren't gonna throw it that much.

Mr. Arrowhead 09-06-2012 01:51 PM

most fantasy website still list him as a RB

suds79 09-06-2012 01:52 PM

Zorn is high.


That would mean DBowe & Baldwin massively underperformed.

KCUnited 09-06-2012 01:52 PM

6 bubble screens a game, sounds about right.

Chiefnj2 09-06-2012 01:53 PM

•Zorn said this is really the first season he's had quality one on one time with Cassel. Said before everything went through Haley.
•Said Haley and everyone in the organization knew Haley had to go, it wasn't a good fit.
•I noted my biggest criticism of Cassel is he is hesitant in the pocket, that he has to wait for the WR to be open to pull the trigger, versus anticipating the open WR. Zorn said that's a New England/Tom Brady way of doing it, give the QB all day in the pocket to find the open WR. •Zorn said Cassel practiced mistakes last 2 years, wasn't corrected properly in practice.
•He likes Daboll's offense, said it's a blend of West Coast and vertical passing game.
•Zorn loves McCluster, predicted he would have 90 catches this year. (so pick him up on your fantasy wire, I did..)
•He wasn't impressed with Moeaki, mostly because he was injured in Zorn's first year, but he said Moeaki's tape was just OK, that he wanted to see it live before praising the kid.
•He heaped huge praise on Hillis, and said Charles still isn't 100% (at the start of camp).
•He didn't blame Bowe for not signing, said no matter when he shows up he'll be way behind, all it takes is missing mini camps.
•Zorn said he had offers to go and coach elsewhere but the Chiefs wouldn't let him out of his contract, and declined other teams interests in interviewing him. He wouldn't say where, but did say he was happy to stay, to work with Daboll and Romeo. I like that we have a coach in demand.

ToxSocks 09-06-2012 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8883755)
•Zorn said this is really the first season he's had quality one on one time with Cassel. Said before everything went through Haley.
•Said Haley and everyone in the organization knew Haley had to go, it wasn't a good fit.
•I noted my biggest criticism of Cassel is he is hesitant in the pocket, that he has to wait for the WR to be open to pull the trigger, versus anticipating the open WR. Zorn said that's a New England/Tom Brady way of doing it, give the QB all day in the pocket to find the open WR. •Zorn said Cassel practiced mistakes last 2 years, wasn't corrected properly in practice.
•He likes Daboll's offense, said it's a blend of West Coast and vertical passing game.
•Zorn loves McCluster, predicted he would have 90 catches this year. (so pick him up on your fantasy wire, I did..)
•He wasn't impressed with Moeaki, mostly because he was injured in Zorn's first year, but he said Moeaki's tape was just OK, that he wanted to see it live before praising the kid.
•He heaped huge praise on Hillis, and said Charles still isn't 100% (at the start of camp).
•He didn't blame Bowe for not signing, said no matter when he shows up he'll be way behind, all it takes is missing mini camps.
•Zorn said he had offers to go and coach elsewhere but the Chiefs wouldn't let him out of his contract, and declined other teams interests in interviewing him. He wouldn't say where, but did say he was happy to stay, to work with Daboll and Romeo. I like that we have a coach in demand.

Interdasting.

Hammock Parties 09-06-2012 02:00 PM

Cassel and Dexter seem made for each other.

They could be like the toasty and crispy of the career-day defense, only on offense.

A true dynumbic duo.

Mr. Laz 09-06-2012 02:03 PM

90 catches at 5-8 yrds a pop?

5/6 catches, 40 yrds a game


it's feasible for a few games but i just doubt it can be that consistent

Deberg_1990 09-06-2012 02:08 PM

Awesome. The more touches the better for a playmaker like him.
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O.city 09-06-2012 02:09 PM

Could Haley really have been taht bad for Cassel and the team overall?

doomy3 09-06-2012 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8883781)
Could Haley really have been taht bad for Cassel and the team overall?

Yes.

Sofa King 09-06-2012 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8883773)
90 catches at 5-8 yrds a pop?

5/6 catches, 40 yrds a game


it's feasible for a few games but i just doubt it can be that consistent

It'll be less than that. McCluster gets touched he goes down....

ChiefGator 09-06-2012 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 8883749)
most fantasy website still list him as a RB

Yahoo has him as a RB, WR now, but only added the WR portion in the last week it seems. I dropped him for Ogletree but will keep an eye on him.

5-6 catches for 40 yards isn't that great though, even in PPR.

O.city 09-06-2012 02:15 PM

I find it hard to believe that he was THAT toxic, caused that many problems with Cassel and the team, then was quickly signed by the Steelers to overhaul their offense.

HoneyBadger 09-06-2012 02:17 PM

Maybe 90 touches.

Deberg_1990 09-06-2012 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8883792)
I find it hard to believe that he was THAT toxic, caused that many problems with Cassel and the team, then was quickly signed by the Steelers to overhaul their offense.



It's a good old boy league, Tuna has got his back.
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O.city 09-06-2012 02:19 PM

Thinkin his Tuna connection is burned, seeing that Tuna's son in law just fired him.

Munson 09-06-2012 02:22 PM

The only possible way I could see him with anywhere near 90 catches is if we are constantly playing from behind by double digits.

O.city 09-06-2012 02:26 PM

Maybe the Chiefs are gonna toss it around more this year than we think they will.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-06-2012 02:26 PM

Not buying.

Mr. Laz 09-06-2012 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8883792)
I find it hard to believe that he was THAT toxic, caused that many problems with Cassel and the team, then was quickly signed by the Steelers to overhaul their offense.

i don't know but he wasn't signed that quickly


in fact, get the feeling that if he didn't have steeler roots he wouldn't of gotten a OC level job at all. He probably would of had to go back to WR's.

Frosty 09-06-2012 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8883755)
•Zorn said this is really the first season he's had quality one on one time with Cassel. Said before everything went through Haley.
•Said Haley and everyone in the organization knew Haley had to go, it wasn't a good fit.
•I noted my biggest criticism of Cassel is he is hesitant in the pocket, that he has to wait for the WR to be open to pull the trigger, versus anticipating the open WR. Zorn said that's a New England/Tom Brady way of doing it, give the QB all day in the pocket to find the open WR. •Zorn said Cassel practiced mistakes last 2 years, wasn't corrected properly in practice.
•He likes Daboll's offense, said it's a blend of West Coast and vertical passing game.
•Zorn loves McCluster, predicted he would have 90 catches this year. (so pick him up on your fantasy wire, I did..)
•He wasn't impressed with Moeaki, mostly because he was injured in Zorn's first year, but he said Moeaki's tape was just OK, that he wanted to see it live before praising the kid.
•He heaped huge praise on Hillis, and said Charles still isn't 100% (at the start of camp).
•He didn't blame Bowe for not signing, said no matter when he shows up he'll be way behind, all it takes is missing mini camps.
•Zorn said he had offers to go and coach elsewhere but the Chiefs wouldn't let him out of his contract, and declined other teams interests in interviewing him. He wouldn't say where, but did say he was happy to stay, to work with Daboll and Romeo. I like that we have a coach in demand.

I am having trouble believing that Zorn would be that forthcoming with some random dipshit on a plane.

Ace Gunner 09-06-2012 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoneyBadger (Post 8883796)
Maybe 90 touches.

Ya. Probably was what was said.

DaneMcCloud 09-06-2012 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8883804)
Thinkin his Tuna connection is burned, seeing that Tuna's son in law just fired him.

Steelers connection

DaFace 09-06-2012 02:36 PM

It wouldn't entirely surprise me. Cassel's not going to start targeting guys 25 yards down the field out of nowhere, so I'm sure the underneath slants and crossing routes are going to be pretty common. And who is usually running those routes...?

O.city 09-06-2012 02:39 PM

No wonder they don't want to sign Bowe then. Gotta save that money for Welker.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-06-2012 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8883825)
I am having trouble believing that Zorn would be that forthcoming with some random dipshit on a plane.


Cassel could have 5 days in the pocket and not find shit.

Radar Chief 09-06-2012 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8883781)
Could Haley really have been taht bad for Cassel and the team overall?

He chased off every offensive coordinator this team brought in, his shouting matches with Cassel and others are all over YouTube and I’ve only seen a head coach draw the personal foul penalty like three times before and two of those were high school level. :shrug: At least I would not deny the possibility.

loochy 09-06-2012 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8883755)
•I noted my biggest criticism of Cassel is he is hesitant in the pocket, that he has to wait for the WR to be open to pull the trigger, versus anticipating the open WR. Zorn said that's a New England/Tom Brady way of doing it, give the QB all day in the pocket to find the open WR.

Lies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8883755)
•Zorn said Cassel practiced mistakes last 2 years, wasn't corrected properly in practice.

Why the F not?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8883755)
•He likes Daboll's offense, said it's a blend of West Coast and vertical passing game.

That doesn't make sense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8883755)
•Zorn loves McCluster, predicted he would have 90 catches this year. (so pick him up on your fantasy wire, I did..)

reeruned

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8883755)
•He didn't blame Bowe for not signing, said no matter when he shows up he'll be way behind, all it takes is missing mini camps.

Oh well. It's not like Cassel can get him the ball anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8883755)
•Zorn said he had offers to go and coach elsewhere but the Chiefs wouldn't let him out of his contract, and declined other teams interests in interviewing him. He wouldn't say where, but did say he was happy to stay, to work with Daboll and Romeo. I like that we have a coach in demand.

Zorn STFU. Nobody wants you.

Hammock Parties 09-06-2012 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthCarlSatan (Post 8883844)
Cassel could have 5 days in the pocket and not find shit.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/casselsuxravens5.gif

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-06-2012 02:50 PM

Exxxxxxxxxxxactly.

O.city 09-06-2012 02:54 PM

Wasn't Bowe single covered and open on that play?

notorious 09-06-2012 02:56 PM

I REALLY hope that Haley was the reason that we sucked hard on offense.

ToxSocks 09-06-2012 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8883890)
I REALLY hope that Haley was the reason that we sucked hard on offense.

Nope. It was Cassel. Sorry.

O.city 09-06-2012 02:58 PM

I mean, I guess there is a chance Haley was the problem, but I'm not so sure.

notorious 09-06-2012 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8883895)
Nope. It was Cassel. Sorry.

DAMNIT!!!!!!!!

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-06-2012 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8883899)
DAMNIT!!!!!!!!

No coach can polish that turd.

htismaqe 09-06-2012 03:00 PM

So is everybody still gonna blame Haley when this team looks exactly like it did the past couple of years?

Crazy or not, he wasn't gonna suddenly turn Cassel into a real QB.

htismaqe 09-06-2012 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8883897)
I mean, I guess there is a chance Haley was the problem, but I'm not so sure.

Haley was the only problem. Buy your season tickets now! Chiefs50.com!

Hammock Parties 09-06-2012 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8883884)
Wasn't Bowe single covered and open on that play?

Cassel doesn't know what open is.

He knows what poo poo in his undies feels like, though.

notorious 09-06-2012 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8883907)
So is everybody still gonna blame Haley when this team looks exactly like it did the past couple of years?

Crazy or not, he wasn't gonna suddenly turn Cassel into a real QB.

I know Cassel is the problem, I just have this reeruned homer 1% hope that Haley was the problem.

O.city 09-06-2012 03:02 PM

What would Cassel have to do at this point, to change the proverbial mind of CP?

htismaqe 09-06-2012 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8883912)
I know Cassel is the problem, I just have this reeruned homer 1% hope that Haley was the problem.

I don't.

Haley absolutely needed to go.

But this team is FAR from being "fixed".

Chiefnj2 09-06-2012 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8883907)
So is everybody still gonna blame Haley when this team looks exactly like it did the past couple of years?

Crazy or not, he wasn't gonna suddenly turn Cassel into a real QB.

Do you want to wager? I'll bet KC scores 150 points more this season than last.

KCUnited 09-06-2012 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8883915)
What would Cassel have to do at this point, to change the proverbial mind of CP?

Not have to have an entire offensive game plan designed around his limitations.

The Franchise 09-06-2012 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8883915)
What would Cassel have to do at this point, to change the proverbial mind of CP?

I put it in another post......but the following:

1. Throw for over 4000 yards.
2. Throw for more than 30 TDs.
3. Throw less than 15 INTs.
4. Have a winning record against playoff caliber teams.
5. Come from behind and win in at least 1 game (preferably 2) all because of him.

MagicHef 09-06-2012 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8883861)

LMAO

Charles makes a great block, looks at the guy he blocked to make sure he wasn't still going, looks downfield to see what happened with the play, realizes Cassel STILL hasn't thrown the ball, and lunges out to try to block someone else.

You have to feel sorry for some of these guys. Charles isn't going to outlast Cassel's contract.

htismaqe 09-06-2012 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8883915)
What would Cassel have to do at this point, to change the proverbial mind of CP?

Complete 60% of his passes and throw for at least 7 yards per attempt.

Right now, they're inversely proportional for him - the higher his completion percentage, the lower his ypa and vice versa.

notorious 09-06-2012 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8883915)
What would Cassel have to do at this point, to change the proverbial mind of CP?

Be a good QB.

The Franchise 09-06-2012 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8883920)
Do you want to wager? I'll bet KC scores 150 points more this season than last.

What is it with people and stupid ****ing bets. The running game this year will make up at least 150 points.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-06-2012 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8883915)
What would Cassel have to do at this point, to change the proverbial mind of CP?

http://youtu.be/j-iuIArton4

Radar Chief 09-06-2012 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8883897)
I mean, I guess there is a chance Haley was the problem, but I'm not so sure.

A problem = yes; the problem = not so much.

O.city 09-06-2012 03:07 PM

Doesn't basically every NFL team design an offense around it's QB's weaknesses?

htismaqe 09-06-2012 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8883920)
Do you want to wager? I'll bet KC scores 150 points more this season than last.

First of all, I said "last couple of years" so that would include 2010.

Even I assume they'll be better with Cassel than they were with Tyler ****ing Palko.

O.city 09-06-2012 03:08 PM

I know you all are getting at Cassel being hte main problem, which he is a big problem, but he's not the only problem holding this team back.

htismaqe 09-06-2012 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8883946)
I know you all are getting at Cassel being hte main problem, which he is a big problem, but he's not the only problem holding this team back.

By the same token, a lot of people want to believe that HALEY was the main problem, including the people selling Chiefs tickets.

No, Cassel isn't the only problem. Neither was Haley.

This team is dysfunctional on many levels and in all likelihood, it starts right with the owner...

O.city 09-06-2012 03:11 PM

So are you guys thinking that Hunt told Pioli that he couldn't spend so much money?

Pasta Little Brioni 09-06-2012 03:12 PM

It's been said all along he'd be the primary slot guy this season.

Hammock Parties 09-06-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8883957)
So are you guys thinking that Hunt told Pioli that he couldn't spend so much money?

Hunt probably approves a budget that Pioli presents.

I bet Hunt was just on cloud nine when he saw Pioli's Patriot Way budget.

They're bestest buddies.

O.city 09-06-2012 03:14 PM

So, is Hunt in the NFL business to actually make money? I was of the opinion that most of these guys don't really need any more money.

Hammock Parties 09-06-2012 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8883961)
It's been said all along he'd be the primary slot guy this season.

Has it?

The only "evidence" for this was preseason games where Bowe was out/limited.

Been saying it for a month now: no reason for him to be on the field instead of Breaston or Baldwin.

Of course idiots here have already convinced themselves he's a better option in the passing game than Moeaki and Breaston.

Jayrodt 09-06-2012 03:15 PM

I can see McCluster getting up to 90 catches. I'm thinking that we are going to see more of a rotation of receivers than we have in the past. McCluster is going to be our main slot guy, and Bowe/Breaston/Baldwin are going to rotate on the outside.

O.city 09-06-2012 03:15 PM

He's done more than Baldwin, at this point he should be ahead of him, right Clay?

Hammock Parties 09-06-2012 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayrodt (Post 8883975)
Bowe/Breaston/Baldwin are going to rotate on the outside.

Wide receiver by committee.

Sounds like a really good idea that will promote continuity and chemistry on the offense. :LOL:

O.city 09-06-2012 03:17 PM

Bowe needs to be on the field for 70% of our passing plays atleast.

The Franchise 09-06-2012 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8883985)
Bowe needs to be on the field for 70% of our passing plays atleast.

70%? He's our best WR. Go higher.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-06-2012 03:17 PM

I saw it in an article that he'd remain the primary guy even when Bowe returns, that is also backed up by Breaston starting. All the recievers will split time.

Hammock Parties 09-06-2012 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8883980)
He's done more than Baldwin, at this point he should be ahead of him, right Clay?

They have remarkably similar production as wide receivers to this point in their careers.

Baldwin is clearly a more talented player who is more of a threat downfield.

There is no ****ing way this pipsqueak should be out there in 3 wide, barring one of our actual legit talents needing a breather.

O.city 09-06-2012 03:19 PM

Atleast Dexter can catch.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-06-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8883964)
Hunt probably approves a budget that Pioli presents.

I bet Hunt was just on cloud nine when he saw Pioli's Patriot Way budget.

They're bestest buddies.

Must save money for soccer.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-06-2012 03:24 PM

Yeah, it'll really suck seeing him move the chains by making grabs on 3rd down. Will be reeeall bad for the offense and keeping the D fresh.

O.city 09-06-2012 03:25 PM

If he helps the team score points and win games, why is it such a big deal?

Pasta Little Brioni 09-06-2012 03:26 PM

It isn't....except for people losing bets that don't care if they win or not.

Hammock Parties 09-06-2012 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8884023)
If he helps the team score points and win games, why is it such a big deal?

People claim that Dex had a good season last year.

It sure didn't help the team score points or win games.

O.city 09-06-2012 03:31 PM

Didn't he score the only TD in a game we won 7 to 3?


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