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Redskins | Team still working on deal with Denver
Wed, 7 Mar 2007 12:33:25 -0800

Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports the Washington Redskins and Denver Broncos are actively trying to work out a deal, with the Broncos seeking the No. 6 pick in the 2007 NFL Draft and the Redskins looking to acquire CB Dre' Bly. The Broncos tried to offer LB Al Wilson and a package of draft picks for the Redskins' high draft pick, but the deal fell through when the Redskins opted to sign LB London Fletcher-Baker instead of trading for Wilson. Also, the Redskins have offered CB Shawn Springs in a deal for Bly, but the Broncos are not willing to give the Redskins cap relief for the $7.5 million charge they would receive by trading Springs. With both teams still coveting their targets, and with Bly still reportedly looking to play in Washington, it is still possible for some kind of swap involving Bly and the Redskins' first-round pick to happen before the draft.

They would get the better end of the deal, IMO, if they pull this off.

The rat has to have pictures of Snyder. How does Snyder year after year bend over and take it?

Love makes you stoopid?

How many picks would this be that they've screwed the Skins out of now? Three?

"Sure, Mike... you love me right? You'll call tomorrow? OK, thanks sweetie.... I'll be thinkin' about ya."

Horny old devil.

I can't believe Snyder would do this. Unreal.

When did London Fletcher become "London Fletcher-Baker"??

The Skins can't be this stupid. You don't give away the #6 pick in the draft for a 29 year-old corner and a broken down Al Wilson.

Last summer.

The key to trading success in the NFL is to only make deals with Matt Millen and Snyder.

And even Carl can't achieve that.

Damnit Carl!:banghead:

There's no way we're giving up BOTH Bly and Wilson. The last deal I heard involved Bly and some draft picks.

That summary makes it seem like they're talking about trading Dre Bly straight up for the 'Skins first round pick. That would be insanity. According to the guy's article, it's more like Bly, the Donk's 1st rounder, their 3rd rounder, and possibly even their 2nd rounder for the 'Skins first round pick.

Jeez. Will the Redskins have any draft picks left? It must be really tough to be a 'Skins fan these days. They have nothing to look forward to.

they've learned what chiefs fans have known for years. The draft is overrated.

I am guessing they are going after Adrian Peterson

Yeah, that "Win Now" mentality is really paying off for them.

If so, LJ, LT, and AP will all be in the same division. Better hope we get some DTs and our new MLB proves worthy.

Gaines Adams would be the broncos pick in my mind.

No thanks... The Broncos don't need a one dimensional speed rusher who can't get it done against the run. I'd rather see the Broncos go after Jamaal Anderson or Alan Branch.

If the Broncos trade Al Wilson they're reeruned.

I really just hope the li'l drama with Bly ends soon... let's just steal some picks from the Skins and move on.

The Broncos need to hold a "meet your new buddy" meeting prior to the draft in order to introduce these new guys to the vets. Sheesh.

Ramsey, Graham, Henry, Smith, Holland, Wilkinson, Bly...

If this is true I am jealous and I think Clark should steal Shanahan away from the Donkeys for insane amount of money to run the Chiefs.

For all the pole smoking over how Denver runs their organization, I think it deserves mention that all it has produced is a 2000s version of the 90s Chiefs.

Since Elway left, Shanahan the has been Carl/Marty redux.

And many here would love to get back to the consistently winning times, right?

you could switch teams.

Can the Chiefs be like the 90's Denver? They won 2 SB in the 90's.

Only people that don't care about the playoffs...

My point was, I don't care what you package with either player; neither is worth the #6 overall pick.

Actually, this is the year you do trade him. He's had two injury-plagued, mediocre seasons in a row. He's definitely on the downswing of his career.

I don't know, it seems they are relying more and more on FA every year, which gets to be a slippery slope.

Damn straight. It pisses me off to even hear it mentioned.

The difference is the Broncos keep taking shots at it, working to get it right. One of these times it's gonna' hit.
You can't win if you don't play and there is not a whole lot of play out of Carl and company year in and year out.

Why in the hell would the Skins want Dre Bly? They already had Springs and Carlos Rogers, and didn't they just re-sign Fred Smoot? Jeez, how many CB's do they need?

Snyder is weirdly obsessive. It makes for a great trading partner.

Bly doesn't want to play for the Broncos. And the Redskins don't really need a CB. Snyder should be holding the Broncos hostage right about now. The Broncos have no leverage here.

Well, that happens when you completely tank a draft like the one from 2003. That was just an unfortunate year... and 2004 wasn't much better. 2005 was looking good (aside from the failed MC experiment), but then we lost Williams this year. Too early to judge 2006 at this point.

Hell, if you look back over the last 6 drafts ... there's not much left on the team that is going into 2007. So, their recent draft history has sucked from a "building for the future" point of view.

The Chiefs have been plenty active so far...

True, but Shanahan has some sorta jedi mind trick that he uses on Danny...

Collusion.

And I'm guessing that with the 20th pick that the Skins get from the Broncos in exchange for the 6th pick, Washington will grab another QB like Kevin Kolb.

That's such an insane comment. What is WAS gaining by getting screwed over?

How would you guys be able to live with yourselves...you'd have a dirty blocking scheme, salary cap violations, vaseline, the NFL in your back pocket...all the things that you guys supposedly despise.

Gay man sechs


/bitter chiefs fan

Money from the league. Under the table preferential treatment. There's a myriad of things BUSINESSMAN Daniel Snyder could be getting from the NFL for providing a front for Pat Bowlen and the Genius.

The Broncos have all the leverage. The Skins are going to cut Springs because of his cap hit this year. They are not sold on Rogers OR Smoot as of yet. Someone at the Redskins, with all the news being leaked from one end, is obviously obssessed with getting Bly.

Also, Bly can't very well sit out the last year of his contract. At the very least, the Broncos will get a pro bowl corner for one year who is motivated for a big contract, in return for 2 guys that would have been riding the bench this year.

In other words, the Broncos don't need to trade Bly with anyone if they don't want to. The are going to bend some team over hardcore if that team wants Bly, you can count on that.

Wow... that's a reach even for the likes of an Oliver Stone.

What's funny is that you think I'm serious.

What's even FUNNIER is how sandy all of you Donks get about it. Something tells me you conscience isn't 100% clean...

LMAO

Where do you come up with this stuff?

I'm sorry, I've missed it. What big deals is Carl swinging this year?

sigh...there's about 200 of you on the KC Star board.

KC can't win a playoff game to save their lives? Must be those cheatin Donks with the NFL and the refs in their back pocket, and that dirty chop blocking scheme!

Line up and play football you whiner.

Dolphins | Wilkinson might decide to retire
Thu, 8 Mar 2007 06:48:07 -0800

Alex Marvez, of the Sun-Sentinel, reports the Miami Dolphins are concerned DL Dan Wilkinson might decide to retire rather than play for the Denver Broncos, which would nullify a Saturday, March 3, trade that netted a sixth-round draft pick from the Broncos for the 13-year NFL veteran.

ROFL

The point is proven, over and over again.

It's like a moth to a flame, Donk fans and their guilty consciences just can't resist...

I'm sorry, I've missed it. What big deals did Carl NEED to be swinging this year?

We don't get sandy about it...we're just amazed at how Chiefs fans can be such huge whiners and conspiracy theorists.

So you're not defensive, you're stupid. I got it.

I'm not sure what you proved... guilty for what? And, no - I never thought you were serious about the comments, but I had to ask why.

How does amazed=stupid?

Amazed at what?

That fact that you can't comprehend that over-the-top absurdity generally indicates that someone is being facetious?

You don't agree with him so you are stupid. And now they will tell you that you are a Chiefs hater. Don't worry though. I got your back.


For now:p

How am I supposed to know whether you are being serious or facetious? I see outrageous accusations like the one in your original post (on a daily basis) from Chiefs fans that are being completely serious. Are you calling me stupid because I can't read your mind?

I think he's just really proud of his 57,000 post e-peen.

Enh, don't get all bent out of shape about it...

Carl doesn't NEED to swing any big deals, this year or ever. His job is safe so long as he continues to field mediocre teams and fill the stands.
Now if his goal were to get to the SB, that would be different.

I said Shanny tries to make big deals to get his team to the SB and that Denver is much more active in this regard than KC.

You said "Originally Posted by htismaqe
The Chiefs have been plenty active so far..."

so I ask you: to what deals do you refer?

No thanks. I hate the Donkeys with a passion but I have to give Shanahan and their FO respect because each and every year they go out and try to make their team better where the Chiefs just try to be mediocre.

just shows how badly Carl sucks


he can't even trade 2 spots in the draft without crying about it .... acting like he just discovered fire.

and yet still getting screwed over.

Yep.

He's a BRONCO fan. Of course he hates the Chiefs.

Yeah, you've got me all figured out. Steve "Super Genious" Sewell.

Shanny thinks he's building for a Super Bowl every year. The Chiefs used to fall into that trap too.

This team needs to get SERIOUSLY younger, but of course ownership doesn't want to suffer through .250 seasons.

So they signed a 2-year stopgap at OT and upgrade the MLB so far, giving us more leeway in the draft to continue to build for the future.

Denver and Washington can do all the trade they want, they've got nothing to show for it.

Carl hasn't fielded a mediocre team in quite a while. You've been unable to beat the teams we've fielded at Arrowhead for quite a while and it took you 'til overtime to beat a team we fielded last year on your home turf. You got swept by a team we traded wins with last year. We fielded a pretty damn good team.

To say nothing about the playoffs, where we were crushed by the Super Bowl champs. Who ended your season?

That said, stop playing dumb. We signed a pretty young, solid LT. Signed a pretty young, talented MLB. Long snapper deal but who cares. Chiefs have honestly been one of the most active teams in the league in the offseason so far.

They haven't been as active as the Broncos, but only two teams in the league have been as active as the Broncos (Pats, Dolfs). I love how active the Donks are, it makes for great competition, but let's not pretend like the Chiefs sit on their thumbs and never make progress.

How many playoff wins/SB appearances does Carl have during his tenure as GM? There are expansion teams with more playoff success than Carl. When I said KC has been mediocre under Carl I may have been too kind.

Okay, so he fields a mediocre team that certainly gives your team a loss every year.

Yeah that's a real lack of quality, there.

I don't like the fact we've had no postseason success but it's been quite a few years since I'd look up and down the talent on the roster and call it mediocre.

You're changing the subject.

The fact remains that, so far, Carl has done EXACTLY what needed to be done this offseason.

We're not competing for a Super Bowl in 2007, so making ridiculous moves like the Broncos have made would be a waste of time and resources...

I do? Gee, thanks for the confirmation...although it is pretty obvious without me having to say it.

It's good that you are happy with it, Carl approves of your attitude.

I'd agree with that, we have a major star at RB and on defense some solid guys, but not really more than one star on our team and a few real solid guys. We need better talent on both sides of the ball. We got lucky that we got what we have out of our WR's and we had the best OL the last few years not including this year.

So standing pat is what you think Carl needs to do this year?