Madden '17
 

Anyone getting a little excited? Seems like they have really made an effort this year.

Franchise mode is getting an overhaul according to recent news:

1. Full player editing while your franchise is progressing.

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2. Coaching/FO decisions.

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3. In-game ticker with live updates.

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4. Practice squads.

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5. New commentary team that will actually talk about things happening in your franchise.

6. Draft has been tweaked with more busts/gems.

Gameplay improvements:

1. Zone Coverage overhaul.

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2. New ball-carrier special moves.

3. Real gap control on defense.

4. Real ball physics. In the past the ball would tether to a player based on ratings.

They also overhauled kicking to make it a challenge now. There's a new three-click system and weather/location will play a factor. Also, apparently on clutch kicks if the opponent "freezes" the kicker by calling a timeout the kicking meter will disappear and you have to make the kick by muscle memory. Kicks and punts can also be blocked.

How badly all of this shit is ****ed up on release remains to be seen but it does seem like they are making a big effort.

Added bonus: the gameplay trailer features the Broncos ****ing over the Chiefs. LMAO

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One thing that annoys me, and it's not a huge deal. But they had the pacifier mouth pieces in like madden 04. Why can't they have them in the game now? Especially since half the skill position players use one

This would probably be the 1st year since 11 I'd buy it but I don't think they're making a PS3 version...

I really LOVE the idea of freezing the kicker, honestly makes TIME OUTS even more valuable

Wow...you can edit a player all the way? Maybe they shouldn't have been dumb and taken that out a long time ago.

I paid $60 for the game. I'm pretty sure that if I want to edit a player....I should be able to.

It's what Madden does. Introduces a new feature, takes it away, and then brings it back again a few years later as a "new feature".

This is why i'm happy to wait a season or two before picking up another Madden. At the end of the day, it's same exact ****ing game it's always been. I'd rather pay $5 for that than $60.

Its all well and good that they add new features. Hey, that's great....


However, the gameplay is what's important and it looks exactly the same every year. The same plays, the same graphics, the same commentary. On and on and on.

Don't ****ing tell me that they've hit the glass ceiling with this, either. Take a look at the MLB games. Every year the gameplay and graphics improve. The multiplayer improves as well.
I am so anti-madden now it's disgusting.

What the need to do is sell this year's copy with free roster DLC updates for next year and take a while to really improve the product.

Every year people defend this tripe. Oooh WOW! We can now edit a player mid season!
Yaay!

**** them. Give the license back to 2K sports and see what a real NFL game looks like.

Madden '17
 

What's the appeal in editing a player's stats mid-season?

I think most people will use it to alter rookie classes. There's not enough variety as it is right now.

It was #1 on the community want list though, apparently.

You should read the OP.

New commentary with new announcers, zone coverage completely reworked, gap control, ball physics...a lot has changed.

Don't know if this means anything but Madden '17 was nominated for best in show at E3.

I'm excited. The past two years, I have been a top 50 online ranked player, using KC exclusively (XB1 if you want to play). The gameplay has been improving over the years, and you will see a huge overhaul probably madden 18 or 19, when they migrate to the frostbite engine. Right now the limiting factor is the crappy ignite engine.

It will be a chess match this year. Zones playing correctly, gap control, route matching concepts... kids will not be able to run FB dive and bench concepts all game. There are some posts from game changers that have logged over 40 hours already testing. The threads are over at operation sports.

They really need to fix the defensive AI recognition. I hate when dudes online use the same three plays all game.

While I would normally agree, this year was the best game play I have ever seen. It actually made me excited about '17.

That has nothing to do with AI recognition, but rather your calling the wrong defenses. If you keep calling 2 man press, and he is running a rub/mesh concept, you will get beat every single time. 4 verticals will trash cover 3 every single time. I didn't use any of those 'nano' glitch blitzes or anything like that to make it that high into ranked, just solid play calling. The trick is, most kids will 'show their hand' right away.. and then you just make one or two defensive adjustments and they are completely shut down. Nano blitzes are easy to stop as well with slide protection & additional hot routed blockers.

M17 has new corrected zones that defend passing concepts correctly, ie buzz zones will sit to corner routes and give the flat up correctly.

Madden '17
 

If a guy is literally using the same two plays all game my defense should recognize that shit.

I'm sure I could get better at calling correct plays and making pre-snap adjustments though.

You are correct- pre snap adjustments you can pretty much create your custom defense on the fly to stop them.

If they are running the same two plays, then YOU should recognize it. Let's say you play a cover 3 sky as base coverage, and he keeps running a bench/flood concept (go route, corner, flat all on one side). By default, Madden cover 3 has a defend in the deep third, and a defend in the flat.. which means he hits the corner route every single time. wide open. Now, you preplay adjustment that flat defender into a buzz zone, and the corner route is taken away. you have to do it with preplay adjustments OR call a defense with buzz zones or a zone that sits on that corner route.

Not a knock on your play calling- just trying to illustrate that there are defenses designed to take away the exact concepts they are beating you with.

I can only control one guy and it's hard to do all of those individual pre-snap adjustments in time.

I guess it comes off as me bitching because I'm just not good enough to overcome this but most guys can't, I'd say. Going back to the last few Madden's I've owned I generally win 2 games for every 1 loss.

I just think it's common sense for them to allow your defenders to "remember" certain play calls if your opponent is abusing them.

To be fair, defensive zones did not play correctly in M16, which is why so pre-play adjustment was needed to really stop a lot of the 'money' routes. This year should work out well. Eventually, they will get frostbite engine rolled into it, and hopefully we start seeing the Madden series everyone has dreamed of.

It'll be the same garbage game as always, with a few tweaks to make you think they've actually improved upon something.
Like my blitzing from the QBs blind side and having a run at the qb for a big hit,only to be foiled at the last moment by the right ****ing tackle kick sliding -all the way across the ****ing pocket , in front of the Qb, to pick me up /block me.

Or the kick off return "blocking", when when you get tackled there are literally 10 opposing players when you're tackled.

It's comical.

Damn, sound like you haven't played since around Madden 15'. Haven't seen a tackle slide across in a few years.

The icing the kicker thing is stupid. Stats don't back it up and actually show a slight tick in improving chances on game-enders.

Haven't played since 14. Use to love this game but once 2k went away the gameplay became garbage. Also changing the buttons and not allowing a person to change them to the old style.
**** EAsports

I agree completely except I'd like both 2K and EA (and maybe even more companies) to make NFL games instead of it being exclusive.

Yeah if they do make kicking a 3-click thing, meaning once to start the meter, once for power and then once for accuracy, a timeout making it disappear completely would be a bit much.

Some EA access footage starting to get released now. Looks smooth. I like the new swat feature to counter the aggressive catch from last year. Gonna miss lobbing it up to Kelce though :(


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An actual blocked punt at 2:20

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niiiice

2K makes the worst games in the business. Every single version of NBA2K I've ever owned has had some major bug/flaw to work around, that they never fully fix with an update that takes a year to come out with anyhow.

At least EA makes a game that doesn't make me restart my machine after every game and whatnot. EA could do better, but they are light years better than anything I've ever seen from 2K.

The new kick blocking stuff is balanced really well. Looks like you have an opportunity to block almost any kick if you time it right, but it comes with a significant chance of roughing the kicker.

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Clutch kicking/freeze kicker is shown at the end of this video.

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That's actually what I meant. The purchasers and the NFL would prosper even more if there was healthy competition instead of a monopoly. Can anyone tell me that more money would not be made if more than one company had the license? Would the products not be better?

Looks like madden is really hanging their hat on the new super uber block a kick feature that was common on the '05-'07 editions.
The graphics look identical to the 13-16 versions.

It's tiring and I refuse to play this turd until somethings done about this issue.


EDIT: I can't believe I'm about to say this but EA may need to take note of what Ubisoft is doing with assassins creed. Take a year off, show me something better. Imagine how good syndicate could've been if they had a whole year to perfect. I mean Christ, it was a good game but they packed way too many boring side missions into it.

Look at what SIG is doing with God of War... They took a couple years off and totally refined the game. It's similar but different too. That game will be something else.

Another bitch... You absolutely can't tell me that with the powerful consoles and pc's we have now, we can't have more realistic football games? I used to play NFL games more than anything before I became a pure game dork. Now? The only one I'll play really is MLB and maybe NHL.

I know they have the technology they just don't have the time. EA is like a mid 1700's land-owner. Whip those boys until your product is out making money.

It took some serious shit for them to approve the new battlefield 1. "Kids won't want to play a WW1 game." Was the exact quote. This is a game for adults according to the rating system. Therefore, idiots.

Madden is going to frostbite in the next year or two, and that is when you will see a complete graphical overhaul.

They have made a lot more changes than just "block a kick," though.

If that's true I'll definitely get 18. Fifa 17 is using frostbite and it looks amazing.

Why can't they do that now??? Oh right, nvmd.

The problem with Madden has never been the graphics.

Block kicks rarely happen in real games so i see this becoming a ridiculous glitch fest.

The user has to time the snap in order to block. You can fake snap and get them off-sides almost every time.

Nah I think they have this well balanced. In addition to the offsides penalty the chance to rough the kicker looks substantial.

I see people only using it when they absolutely have to block a kick or there is little risk in going for the attempt (i.e. end of half).

Heard that!

Yeah. I think I have 15 or 16. Which was a gift from my brother in law last year for my birthday. He wasn't aware of my Madden boycott. Lol. It was improved from my last copy which I think was '12 I think. But I can't imagine buying a new copy each year to arrive at what I have now with 15/16(I can't rmemenber).

That game, as it comes out now each year, should be a $35 game at best.

This is how I feel about Madden, NSFW:

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So I shouldn't buy an out-dated console for $350 + $60 game + extra controller?

i haven't even upgraded to a ps4 and i don't know if i will. might just wait about 4 more years for the next generation to come out. my boys would be 9 and 11 at that point and would actually enjoy it too.

The ps3 looks like shit.

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ROFL

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Game looks smooth, though. Polished. Me likey.

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Blocked kick for TD:

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First time that happens to me I'll throw my controller

I'm going to give madden one last chance this season. I've been turned off lately by the current franchise mode.

I've been playing with EA early access. I love the gameplay so far. Best tip I can give if you decide to pick this game up, go through the skills trainer. After you do that, do it again. You will get punished if you can't read coverages or understand passing concepts. The gap control system feels fluid on defense, as do the pattern matching coverages. Blocking AI feels improved and 4 man rushes can generate some pressure.

Same. But I'm sorta glad it might be even possible to block a FG. I don't think I ever blocked one against the CPU in last years game. Came kinda close several times.

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Don't fall in love with BB5 playing with the Jags....never mind it's too late.:shake:

It better because it feels like I can't get pressure with a good dline now and I should. It's silly that Poe gets driven back so much

I really hope Jax kicks ass this season except vs KC :) I like Bortles and his offense.

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Thumbs and slice are returning to Madden, bitches.

two more days, man

stoked

can't wait to miss a FG

You might have to start giving out Madden tips on defending certain popular route concepts.

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The last gen took 7 years for this current one to come out.

These ratings are all wrong. example, KC is a 84 overall, 81 off, 83 def.

Chiefs have the highest rated defense in the game. Awesome.

I just copy whatever I saw from the main madden site.

Wasn't considering buying the game until I saw this. Good, dynamic commentary would do so much to improve the in-game experience. Especially compared to last year's commentary, which wasn't just repetitive, but straight-up broken.

https://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/...ommentary-team

No more phil simms finally.

hnnnnnnnnng

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I bet he drop it.

I think i see the number in the background to text the Chiefs brass if fans around you are hurting your feelings.

I'm very salty that Peters is an 82

LMAO.

****ed around with the drills. So smooth this year. Animations are greatly improved. Ball carrier moves are siiiiick. I love hurdling.

Menus seem a little slicker.

Wish I didn't have to sleep.

Reviews pouring in and many are pleased.

Chiefs OL and secondary are hot garbage in the game BTW.

honest rating... worth the price tag?

I've only mucked around with drills and looked at the roster so far, but first impressions are awesome. It just feels so smooth.

I kinda wish I could import my franchise from '17 because I'm gonna miss my players.

I might just sit down and edit an entire league of rosters to continue the franchise I have going.

Just like Saturday.

This game is so realistic.

Custom offensive and defensive playbooks created.

Starting franchise mode NAO.

I'll be playing as Clark Hunt, gutting the defense, switching to a 4-3, and looking at QB prospects STAT. There's some douche named Cameron Wolff who's already being hyped despite being a pitcher last week. KC WOLFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Also: XP sliders available in offline franchise this year!

Madden '17
 

Start a new thread, Mals. Let us accompany you on your journey.

there's not going to be a ton of action in this one. i think it will suffice.