****The Official "It's time for me to eat shit on the McCluster pick" Thread****
 

****ing crown his ass. He is dynamic, and more important than anyone else we could've taken at that point. I know nothing. Great ****ing call, Scott!

LMAO

Our defense looks monstrous. So for all we talked about needing to improve the front 7, they're just fine. The offense on the other hand, obviously needs playmakers, and that may not be enough for Matty McCastle. Without Dex, we don't win in San Diego, and we don't have 7 right now. Crown his ass. Glad he's a Chief, and I bitched, whined, and moaned when that pick was made. I'm just sayin'.

I won't eat shit on the pick until I see McCluster healthy and productive in his third season. I will, however, cheer him on and hope that he gets there.

Put a little salt on it gives it a little something.

Nice adjustment, rook.

Absolutely. Another great play by Dex.

Either Weis just figured out how to use DMC, or his light just went on.

It's time for a lot of the Doom, and Gloomers, and Pioli bashers to start eating shit with a shovel. To pull this team together like this in TWO seasons?
Bow before you Don.

Nobody said you did. :D

+1 to this thread. *hangs head in shame*

Me too. I warmed up to him after a little explanation...and even though he's still a rb...I'm happy. I was furious at first even knowing he tore up the SEC

Yeah, if Pioli makes him get injured, that's a bad decision.

Try being intellectually honest next time.

All the picks the draft geeks cried over are doing great
the one they jacked off about not so hot
though it all could change

I want to see him doing the same against great Defenses. He should deliver.

For now, I'll drink piss.

I'm not gonna eat shit yet...But I am gonna put it on a plate and start getting my fork and knife....maybe a tortilla and a little salsa...


He looks amazing. I thought he was a gimmick......wow....

I assume you'll give Pioli 3 years to see if his moves pan out, then, even if you disagree with them.

49ers don't qualify?

as soon as people apologize for the entirety of the 2009 draft

sure

we were wrong about a slot wr

pioli was wrong about the franchise qb

What moves? Are you referring to Cassel? That is a move of a different sort than a draft pick.

This

wooooooooooo nice TD

He has a point.

I don't want to clutter up this love thread with this, but... what point is is that he has?

Any of them. Cassel sucks, but that was still the right move. It just hasn't worked out. Vrabel has been surprisingly effective as well.

God, do we need a QB. It pisses me off that we even have to discuss Cassel.

It was the "right move" to trade for a demonstrably awful 27-year-old QB instead of drafting one? That was the WRONG move, no matter how good or bad Cassel would be for the Chiefs.

if you (or anyone else) aren't gonna give credit for DexFactor being a good pick because of time and longevity ...you have to do the same for his other moves...this really shouldn't need further explanation.

Note that longevity was one of the biggest knocks on McCluster, specifically.

Still, the key word is "yet." I'm not ready to call the McCluster or Arenas picks good YET. Because of how opposed they are to viable conceptions of draft value. Berry is different. He could bust and the pick would still be good.

With the other picks in the 2010 (and 2009) drafts I will not call them good until they prove that they were worth eschewing draft value for. I am also not prepared to say that I am right about those picks until I am proven right.

A starting QB and starting LB for a second round pick is a good move. I was never a fan of Cassel, but I was hoping that he would work out. It was great value for what we gave up, and the upside was huge.

The value of the trade was very good on-paper. But all you had to do was watch games of Cassel's to see how shitty he was.

People can shut the **** up about the Moeaki pick too.

This doesn't even make sense, at least not the way you phrased it. Either way, anyone can get hurt. Is he small? Sure. So what? He's a weapon. I'd rather have a weapon for a few years and take my chances with an injury than draft somebody who is just a guy.

Nope. He has to play at this level for 15 years to justify the pick.

I need to eat crow on that one. What a ****ing athlete.

I would never want someone who is "just a guy" with a second round pick, either. The argument, since you're too dishonest to acknwoledge it, was that a foundational talent would a much better pick that a slot WR whose size makes it more likely that he won't be an impact player when the Chiefs are ready to compete for a championship. The argument is essentially long-term thinking vs short-term.

You're such a dishonest sonofabitch.

whaaaaa!

I think I will have my crow with a side salad and some home-made biscuits.

I recommend some Frank's hot sauce, it makes everything taste better.

And for the record I have been on the band wagon of McCluster, Moeaki, Berry, and Arenas from day one.

And for the record, it is nice to not be wrong for ****ing once.

Moeaki is turning into the steal of this draft. That catch he made today was unbelievable.

Who would have thought that Pioli et al. know more about football than fans? Shocking.

BTW,

I don't get the need to hate on any pick until they've had a chance to actually play.

How is Cody playing? I'll admit that I haven't paid much attention to many other teams. I would guess, though, that he's probably not having the type of impact that DMC is.

Well, with all due respect to the impact DexFactor has made for us, I wouldnt be a bit surprised to see Cody become a dominant player after his second season and play at a high level for a long time...and for Dex to only last 6-8 years in the league.

Thing some of these guys are missing is that we NEEDED PLAYMAKERS NOW...not three years from now.

Dex was a good pick.

I also wouldn't be surprised to see Cody buffet himself out of the league.

Not that I'm predicting that, just that it's a possibility.

I'm going to go eat some cookies now.

People wanted Cody to come in and start. Maybe he would have, but I think the guys we have now are doing just fine (and I imagine Romeo et al. already knew that going into the draft).

This. :clap:

Thats why he is the GM and we arn't.

As a supporter of his for Chiefs GM since 2004 I do have to still question his judgement on Cassel. But even if Cassell is a flop, his ratio of hits vs. misses is leaning towards the positive side.

It still doesn't change the fact that McCluster is redundant.

He is a great returner but Javier Arenas looks just as good.

On offense he had 2 carries for -1 yards and caught 3 passes out of the backfield for 69 yards. Charles could have taken those snaps and we probably wouldn't have noticed a difference. They were great plays but it's not that much different than having Charles back there if you're gonna use him like that.

Until he starts catching passes out of the slot or is effective for 8-10 touches a game i'm not ready to call it a good pick. McCluster is doing things that other guys on the roster can do just as well as him. Seems redundant to me.

The argument is whether or not McCluster was a good pick in the second round of the draft, not whether some theoretical player might have had a larger impact. This was a solid pick, and the early returns show that it has the potential to be a homerun. I didn't like the pick at the time, as I would have taken Cody and Clausen in the second round. I'm just honest enough to admit that having this guy changes the entire complexion of the game.

We have so much more speed with McCluster and JC in the game than we did at this time last year that it makes the entire offense better. Maybe Clausen and Cody turn out to be even better, and maybe they don't. That doesn't make Dex a bad pick.

No problem Flopnuts. You ****ed up along with others. :D

Wow, dumb.

It's a little known fact that, in the NFL, you only need one fast guy who can make big plays on your team.

I would love to see Charles and Dex in a foot race. It's crazy to say someone is faster than Charles, but Dex might be the guy. He is an absolutely devastating weapon out there. While everyone else will bang on the Charles train... I'm not sure Dex isn't the guy we aren't giving enough touches. His top speed out there is frightening.

Also loved all the formations and shifting we were throwing out there today with Jones, Charles, and Dex on the field. That is some serious firepower.

Seriously, I don't see what he is adding at this point? All his big plays were out of the backfield while Charles was out of the game. And its not like Charles is getting overworked and needs a breather.

Charles is faster. Dex is quicker.

I never questioned the pick. It was obvious that the previous year, we had Bobby ****ing Wade, and Lance ****ing Long. KC needed playmakers outside of Charles, and it needed it in a bad way.

This kid is worlds better than those two stooges combined.

You might not be ready to " eat shit on the pick" until year 3 but I'll bet you gobbel a bunch of weinies between now and then. Am I right or what?

This is what I'm saying. We almost don't have enough touches to use Dex properly. Why would we use an early second round pick on a guy that is either going to take touches away from Charles or sit on the bench and not get enough touches.

Yeah, it's not like this team can use a guy who can score from anyplace on the field and is a super dangerous returner. :shake:

See Charles, Jamaal and Arenas, Javier.

redundant

If he can do we he did today from the slot that's different but he didn't do anything in the previous 2 games and made a difference today when he was lined up in the backfield.

It isn't redundant. It's more. It's another player they have to worry about. This is a stupid argument, bye.

Hilarious! A Gay joke!

I believe he made all his plays today lined up in the backfield with Charles out of the game.

Previous 2 games he hasn't given much reason to worry about him.

2 catches -9 yards
2 carries - 3 yards

That is both games combined.


Plus 49ers refused to cover anyone in the flat today which helped him a lot.

I guess the 95 yard punt return for a TD that completely changed the game was no big deal.

This Rigodan guy is a fool

Frankly, I think we should just our best WR out there and keep the rest on the bench. Why bother with three WRs when we can just put one guy out there? We can save money that way too. I am a genious.

Yes he's a great punt returner but it can be argued that Arenas is just as good.

Only one guy can return kicks or punts at a time.

That just makes it more funny

not like he broke a tackle on the guy that was covering him in the flat or anything, then dove through three defenders to score....

just quit, please

I haven't see him do anything when he is lined up in the slot this year and it's been 3 games now. If he has to line up in the backfield to be effective it's pointless because we already have Charles.

Look, I think he's a great player. But the chiefs haven't found a way to exploit that yet out of the slot and it's starting to worry me.

Arenas was gassed when Charles ran that punt back. It's why Haley had McCluster replace him for that return. Only one guy at a time can catch a pass. That doesn't mean that we should only carry 1 WR.

Bobby wade?

I was sold on McCluster about 10 minutes after the pick. I even went full homer and drafted him in my fantasy league. I just couldn't pass up someone who has his kind of scoring ability and is on the Chiefs.

I haven't started him yet but he outscored Fitzgerald and Addai today so he's making a case.

In 3 games, he only has 2 touchdowns. I'm worried, too.

Who says Charles couldn't have done that. He caught that pass out of the backfield with Charles out. It's not like Charles is being overworked.

Look at his offensive production in previous 2 games too.

If we spent a 2nd round pick to get a guy that does what Charles does and has to take Charles out of the game to do, what is the point?

How in God's name can anything about that game "worry" you? Just because every player we have hasn't blown up the fantasy scores, doesn't mean they won't continue to contribute. He's being worked into the offense. He's a rookie who just finished his 3rd game and he's already won rookie of the week. Just have a little patience for God's sake.

I'm just saying he needs to be productive in the offense from the slot or it's a redundant pick.

Thus far he hasn't been productive from the slot

A couple of weeks ago, he hadn't yet been a threat on punt returns. Until today, he hadn't really been a pass catching threat. It's WEEK 3.

Because when they're both in the game you have to account for BOTH of them. /obvious

And you are just wrong. Sorry.