Draft the best player on the board!!
 

With all the talk about trading our 1st rounder to pick up additional picks I wanted to remind everyone that by drafting higher in round 1 you increase your chances to get a playmaker! Notice I said "increase" and not that it is guaranteed.

We also do not want to include Wesley in a trade for Surtain if it is avoidable. Wesley will beat out Woods for the FS position. I do want Surtain but at the cheapest cost.

With our 1st round pick we need to take the BEST PLAYER ON THE BOARD!! Regardless of position! This draft strategy will allow us to have a playmaker versus the 2nd or 3rd best available position player who we can all sit around on here after three years and bitch about.

We are very critical of Carls draft history but when you look at the good players picked up in the draft (ie TG, LJ) you will notice he selected those who were arguably the best at their position in college and had a solid season leading up to the draft. Now there will be those anomolies such as Simms but Simms didn't come on strong until his senior season and was playing along side Peppers so he should have been considered a risk.

~wants to be GM for a day~

You make it sound like we're the Patriots and can afford to sit around and let the best athlete fall to us. This team has very specific needs, those being linebacker, corner, and defensive end. If we draft a guard, I'll burn all of my Chiefs stuff.

Oh, Carl traded up to get Gonzalez, btw. ;)

Opinions vary about who is the best player at positions of need.

Some here think that Rolle is the best CB in this draft. Others claim that it's PacMan Jones. And then's there's the people in the Carlos Rogers camp.
Finally, there's a small group that back Marlin Jackson.

Unless we are sitting there at 15 with Derek Johnson in our sights, I believe that trading down is a very viable option.

One of those 4 will still be there later in the round, and it might give us the opportunity to select a good OLB in the 2nd.

I'm officially pimping Marlin Jackson and Daryl Blackstock.

I hope they get the best available player also.

I would rather have a playmaker on Offense than an average player on Defense that we drafted just because we had a need. If the defensive palyer is ranked as high as the player on offense than the Chiefs should pick defense.

Pimping Rolle and Pollack. Roth, if we trade down.

I agree, but I don't think we'd draft a RB,TE,C or G with the 15th pick.

A couple of weeks ago I saw a mock that had one of the top 2 QB's dropping to us. So.....You think drafting a QB THIS year with our 1st pick is a good idea if he was the BAP?

I think that was before their workout. Both have moved up the charts.

Riding shotgun on the Daryl Blackstock Bandwagon if he's available to us in the draft.:thumb:

Draft the Best Defensiv Player available.

I didn't think either one of them would fall to us before. The point IS he said draft the BAP period. So the question was, you would take any position? I agree with BEST defensive player available. Some may be against more DL players but we still can't stop the run....

I'm scared to see who the Chiefs think is the best player available when they pick. The Chiefs have one of the worst scouting departments in the NFL.

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Chiefs scouts (pictured above) discussing future prospects.

one of johnson, rolle, rogers, and jones should be there when we pick at 15. if we trade down, all four will be gone. also, marlin jackson is probably going to end up being a fs in the nfl. we've got enough safeties. blackstock or robert mccune in the 2nd would be fine with me.

Everthing I've read about Jackson leads me to believe that he has all the tools to be a good NFL CB, and for unknown reasons, struggled at the FS position in his junior year.

watching his workout at the combine, he didn't look like he was doing to good at backpedaling then changing direction at full speed. he looked like he would play better with the play in front of him.


i'd much rather have rogers, rolle, or jones.

Jackson did fine against real live competition.

I really think to much emphasis is placed on the combine.

I think, and this may be a red flag, without that man to cover, he loses focus.

That might explain his poor performance as a FS in his junior year, and his combine performance.

So would drafting the best player still be a good idea if he was a SS? I mean, we could, like move him to CB like we did with Dale Carter...IT'LL WORK!!!

Seriously, though, go with what you neeeeeed.

Mastashake

i still would only take him if derrick johnson, antrel rolle, carlos rogers, pacman jones, justin miller, and corey webster are gone.

According to scouting reports on Webster, he's pretty raw, and would take some time to develop into an NFL CB.

I'm of the belief that Carlos Rogers in the best CB in the draft. He's certainly on par with Rolle and Jones IMO. If he's there...he's as good as gone.

Might not be all that bad if Thomas Davis from Georgia was the pick. He played safety for Georgia, but also some OLB. He is projected right in the area we pick, and is listed for both spots, S and OLB. Remember another safety who moved to LB not long back who does pretty well? Here is a hint. He plays MLB for the Bears.

Yes...Davis could be the choice there too...but with Sammy Knight on board...we don't need a coinverted safety...we need a LB/DE...
as in Merriman...who could also be our pick.

Just say no to Tweeners like Merriman!

this goes straight to the argument...draft the best player available vs. what we need. Merriman is rated among the top 12 in the draft...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I don't have anything against Merriman. Have not seen him play so I can not comment at all. I have seen Davis play, and I like him a whole bunch. Safety or OLB would be fine with me.

Sign Law (if he becomes healthy) to go with Warfield at the corners. Knight and Davis at the Safety positions, and I think our secondary would be second to none.

With the #15 pick, there will probably be 2 or 3 players that you could argue are the best player on the board.

If the choice is between a player who has one clear established position, and a Tweener, then I'm going to pick option A every time.

You gotta pick A in the NFL, the competition's too good to be putting in Eric Crouch.

Mastashake

When all is said and done...I really believe we'll pick Carlos Rogers anyways... :thumb:

I think you are right.

Kirwan makes some great points...
 

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/8307849


Merriman 11th, Rogers 12th

So, if we stand still at 15, then between Merriman and Rogers, I'd take Rogers.

And I'm betting that's the player the Chiefs are zeroing in on.

Oh, and damn you Cannada, you screwed up the page! :cuss: :)

how the hell did I do that? :cuss:

Don't ask me.
I only know how to bitch about it. :mad: :p

Exactly!! If we would've drafted a LB like Henderson or Pierce last season then maybe we would'nt be having these problems now.

So by taking Siavii and K. Wilson last season was CP drafting for position or need?

It boils down to do you take the 4th best CB or the 2nd best LB? Well, if the 4th best CB is still better than the 2nd best LB then the answer is YES!! Because he would be the BAP.

The answer to whether or not I would take one of the top QB's if he were available at 15 is also YES! Don't kid yourselves by thinking Trent Green is going to be around much longer. Also don't kid yourselves that our offense is limited on stretching the defense with Trent at the helm. Remember a couple of seasons ago when he threw all those int's because Kennison kept outrunning the deep throws? The following season AS changed to offense to hide Trents weeknesses. It is not a secret that Trent does not have the arm strength to stretch the defense. He is very efficient in the current offensive scheme which fits him well.

The best way to make up for a lack of arm strength at the QB position is to have a WR that can run well "after the catch." So YES, I would take a WR if he is the BAP!!

Derrick Johnson is by far the best def player in the draft. He stands out the most and has incredible physical ability.

A brief [well, as brief as any Gaz post] analysis...
 

Gaz,

What if that "safety" is the best OLB available, which may be the case with Thomas Davis?

Coogs-
 

Not sure he is a "tweener". He is more of a football player who can play 2 spots very well.

Gimme a full-time OLB...
 

Merriman is a tweener similar to how Suggs was a tweener a few years ago. That's the type of tweener to sign. Probably a better fit for a 3-4, but he has the makings of being a really good player. He'll be off the board by 20.

nj,

I was referring to Davis from Georgia. The title of this thread is draft the best player on the board. Davis could very well be the best player on the board at #15. And he can play OLB. I would not mind the pick at all.

As far a Merriman goes, I have not seen him play. I'll take your word for it, and would not mind if he was our choice either if he is the best player on the board at #15, 'cause I really wanted us to trade up to get Suggs. The Vikings kinda of missed up those plans up with that goof they had that caused the run on players though.

I agree on Davis. I think he can play OLB in the NFL and he has played at LB in college before dropping weight and moving to S. He still plays above 220 lbs so it wouldn't be that hard for him to get up to 235 or so in time for his rookie season.

Ahh, different "tweeners."

I don't care what anyone says, and I don't know any secret to how college players project to the NFL, but David Pollack was the heart and soul of that Georgia defense. In college, he was a much more dominating presence on the field than Davis. I'm still of the opinion that Pollack would be the best pick for KC and have the most impact.

It seems to be a really weak year for OLB's in the draft, so I wouldn't be surprised if Davis turned out to be a decent one a few years from now.