What's the least you'd settle for in order to trade down?
 

I don't think the #1 pick can be traded. A lot of you disagree with me.

Let's test out what you'd even be willing to accept.

Poll forthcoming.

A #1 next year would be a must.

2nd rounder next year and 4th rounder this year from the Jaguars. It's only one spot and hey can pick anyone they want that isn't Geno.

It's all going to depend on what team it is and how far we'd be dropping.

Anything in the 4-8 range? I want their 1st and 2nd this year and at least a 2nd round pick in 2014.

Anything below that and I want a 1st next year instead of a 2nd.

I'd go 2nd round next year and a third this year from Jacksonville.

Other than that, it depends on the team. If it were Buffalo, their first and second in 2013 and a first in 2014.

it won't happen. there is no team gonna trade up folks.

Depending on what the Jaguars think they can get for their #33 pick, I could see that. They could potentially trade it for 2 later 2nd round picks or a 2nd and a 3rd.

Bull****ingshit

a 2nd this year and a 1st next year

Poll is up.

Select all you'd accept a trade for.

Top 4 and that's it.

Except it's bogus.

There's a big difference between a team that's wanting to jump from the 20's to the #1 spot and a team in the Top Five that wants to jump to the #1 spot.

Ding, Ding, Ding........winner

Understood, but there's only so much I can cram into one poll.

So feel free to select an option if you want, and extrapolate your thoughts in the thread.

See below.

A second this year and a first next year... we're talking about a left tackle who only gave up one sack in 2012 iirc, if someone wants him they better pony up.

Voted 2nd this year, and their 1st next year.

Toss in a 5th or 6th this year too just for kicks and giggles.

:spock:

You didn't read the thread....did you?

I went the first two choices. You simply cannot throw away the first overall pick because the talking head on TV say there isn't any quality at the top of the draft this year. If someone wants the top spot, you make them pay for it, period.


And I also went with the D's whore mom and baseball bats option. Eight Major League quality Louisville Sluggers are nothing to sneeze at, even if the whore mom may be.

...This thread isn't about Albert.



That's stupid. What if they have a guy they WANT but don't think will drop to 8-15? That would mean they could trade down one or two spots and still get their guy. That is the reason why the cost to trade up depends on your position. Expecting the Jaguars to pony up that much is stupid.

A top 3 QBotF this or next year(might have to trade back up).

Errr, maybe not LMAO

If we're trading down one spot with Jax I'd swap our #1, #63, #99 for their #2, #33 and #64. We don't gain a pick we just greatly improve our position. They don't lose a pick they get Geno and then give up position. We'd have a pick in every round again except the 4th but we have that comp 3rd to make up for that.

I would settle for Geno Smith, and a 2013 2nd round pick.

wouldn't trade a ****ing thing...

You get a QB and stop beating off to the dreams of 9-7...

A 2nd and a bag of chicken chips and a bag of ja lap a noes

in 95 , the Niners gave up a 1st, 3rd and 4th in 95 and a 1st in 96 to move up 20 spots (30th to 10th) to draft JJ Stokes. ROFL


Yes, the price is high if you want to jump from a low to a high spot.

So far, Dorsey has been getting raped in FA. Yes, he did make some nice moves, but..

He could have probably used Glenn Dorsey in the Alex trade.

He could have used Cassel earlier in a trade instead of holding on to him for so long.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him get blown in a trade down, if it happens..

Glenn Dorsey was not under contract. Therefore....we couldn't trade him.

A) No, he hasn't.
B) No, he couldn't have. Dorsey was a free agent and they would have had to re-sign him in order to trade him, and then San Francisco would have just offered Dorsey more money. This is reeruned.
3) WTF are you even talking about now.
4) ANYTHING WE GET FOR TRADING DOWN IS GOOD. THE ONLY UNACCEPTABLE EVENT IS STAYING AT 1.1 AND TAKING A NON-QB.

:facepalm:

Okay, my bad. I thought we could have traded him.

You really think holding on to Cassel and not shopping him early was smart?

It was obvious he would be released after we signed Smith.
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depends on how far down you move

Anyone demanding this, that or the other appears to be ignoring that staying at #1 is not an attractive option. If they end up picking there, prepared to be disappointed in the pick. Not only does moving down increase the options (most/all of which are more appealing IMO), they'd get at least solid value back (like a couple 2nds or whatever). It's just a no-brainer to take the best offer, unless they're so dead-set on a guy and don't feel he'll last, but they've said they're considering 8-10 players so they categorically should move back and for whatever they can get.

I'd take a 1st next year all by itself, but I'd hold out hope for a 2nd this year as well.

We absolutely must get a 2014 first to trade down.

Agreed.

For me right now it's "what would I take pick wise in exchange for Luke Joeckel."

Answer: I wouldn't be too picky in making a deal.

Right.

The future 1st would be the door that opens all my doors if I'm the GM, but nevertheless, I'll take a whole bunch of combination of picks over Luke Joeckel. People forget that these picks actually turn into players. We're not trading away RG3. Everyone in the league knows that.

Any 1st + any 2nd.

I just don't care anymore.

Losing that pick for Alex Smith has completely skewed my perception of draft value.

If we can just get a 2nd round pick back **** it.

Yep.

Everyone here saying "Ooh a first next year, and this year's second and a 2014 second!" is completely missing the point.

What would it take for me to trade down? The best offer. Period.

If Geno Smith is NOT getting picked at #1... I think they should accept close to anything realistic to trade down and get out of that position, no matter what it is.

Drafting Luke Joekel at #1 is beyond fucking rediculas.

Tavon Austin or Cordarelle Patterson + any player picked in the 2nd > Luke Jerkel

I voted for a 2nd. It really depends on how far down you're going though. If we were trading with Jacksonville and we had confidence that they weren't going to take our top guy, I'd take almost anything, even a 7th. If we were trading down to 10th, it would take considerably more than a 2nd.

I guess I'm saying that I'd take a 2nd to trade down to Phili's 4th pick or so.

Are there any players on the teams of prospective trade partners that may be useful? Eagles have Maclin, which I know they aren't trading, just using as an example.

I dunno about 10, but I'd trade with Buffalo (8) if they made a decent, fair offer. QB, 2 tackles, Floyd and Milliner are all going before that. None of those guys we want. That leaves 3 edge rushers, the 3rd tackle, or more scope for an off-the-board pick (WR or something).

Including players in trades like that so rarely take place or even just make sense (mainly because it's hard to value a player like a draft pick), but one guy who stands out as making a lot of sense is Byrd from Buffalo.

Of course, when I say makes sense, I probably only mean for KC, since I doubt Buffalo wants to create yet another hole on its roster.

I'll go a little further, stating what I'd want from each hypothetical bidder:

2. Jacksonville: I'll take Dane's offer...swap firsts, a 2nd next year and a 3rd this year. We could bundle two thirds and get back into the 2nd round if we wanted to, or just hang tight and draft 3 times in the third with the compensatory pick.

4. Philadelphia: Swap firsts and take next year's first.

7. Arizona: Swap firsts, a 2nd + 5th this year, a first next year.

8. Buffalo: Swap firsts, a 2nd + 5th this year, a first and third next year (because Buffalo literally has NO options at QB.)

Hamas is right. ANY deal (maybe save JAX) must net us a first round pick. And maybe even that. We have to have the picks ready to move up and get a QB if Alex Smith fails and we need to get a QBOTF.

If everyone else is offering a 1st (for arguments sake) JAX would have to offer theirs up too. If they want the QB that is...

If you have multiple teams bidding you want to drive the price up, and make the price for a team in the top 5 to be the same as a team lower than that.

You never win in a trade out of the 1 hole though, so count me as a guy that doesn't want to trade down. But my avi kind of does that anyway...

I would need Direckshun's whore mother and AT LEAST 15 baseball bats. 8 is unacceptable.

You trying to make room for him to crawl back in?

It would be wise to at least try to trade with the one team which you feel will be real bad next year even with Geno with the hope to get a real high 1st round pick next year and pick one of those supposedly elite QBs next year if Alex Smith falters.

Second this, and first and second next.

I don't expect it to be traded either. If it is, I think people should probably lower their expectations in terms of the value in return.

Oh look! Another poll that contains no acceptable options!

It's the #1 pick. It all depends on who's the trade partner but I'm not even entertaining an offer that doesn't involve a 2014 1st.

Them: "So you won't take our first, second, future 1st and 3rd?"

You: "No. Has to be 1st, 2nd, future 1st and future 2nd."

Them: "You're absolutely sure?"

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With the 1st pick in the NFL Draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select Right Tackle Luke Joeckel.