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Eric 04-29-2007 07:08 PM

Can Dwayne Bowe separate????
 
Nfldraftcountdown just kills him about lack of separation.

How good is he at it?????????

icepick64 04-29-2007 07:09 PM

Guess we'll find out!!!!!!!!

Tribal Warfare 04-29-2007 07:10 PM

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=159288

I believe he can

Direckshun 04-29-2007 07:11 PM

Hell yes he can. He's excellent at finding holes in defenses and is an incredibly fluid route runner.

He'll get open.

Extra Point 04-29-2007 07:12 PM

He'll separate the shoulder of anyone who grills up on him.

cdcox 04-29-2007 07:13 PM

The rap on DeMarcus Russell was that in college, all his recievers were running free and he wouldn't have such open receivers in the pros.

Eric 04-29-2007 07:13 PM

Sorry if it's stupid question but all Herm said was that he could make tough catches and he was physical and a good blocker; Made him sound like tight end, nothing I could remember about him separating. He did also say he ran good routes.

Direckshun 04-29-2007 07:17 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6752070

"Russell and Bowe worked out together at LSU's Pro Day. It was an interesting sight. Bowe, who is built like he just skied down Mount Olympus to chuckle at us mortals, worked out shirtless and in tights. The fluffier Russell wore a pup tent."

the Talking Can 04-29-2007 07:18 PM

no, he can't seperate

Tribal Warfare 04-29-2007 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox
The rap on DeMarcus Russell was that in college, all his recievers were running free and he wouldn't have such open receivers in the pros.

JaMarcus

Bowser 04-29-2007 07:22 PM

Does the Pope crap on a throne?

cdcox 04-29-2007 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare
JaMarcus

I still can't pronounce "LaDanian"

BigMeatballDave 04-29-2007 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

From that link...Jarvis Moss, DE, Broncos

The Broncos aren't supposed to draft defensive lineman. They are supposed to get them from the Browns.
ROFL

Extra Point 04-29-2007 07:50 PM

I want to see Bowe separate someone's jaw. Special receiving teams should put Dwayne and Kolby 2-Deep for catching the ball, and form the cross-over wedge for a blocking scheme. Getting the ball over our 35 yd line and putting the hurt on tacklers sets a decent tone. What's wrong with headhunting the headhunters?

Hammock Parties 04-29-2007 07:52 PM

Kolby might make a great special teams blocker, yeah. Good point.

58-4ever 04-29-2007 07:54 PM

Once he gets those millions he will be separating some Kansas City legs.

orange 04-29-2007 07:55 PM

He's certainly big enough to push off successfully if the refs apply the Randy Moss Rule...

Of course, he plays for the Chiefs, so what are the odds of that happening?

Tribal Warfare 04-29-2007 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Extra Point
I want to see Bowe separate someone's jaw. Special receiving teams should put Dwayne and Kolby 2-Deep for catching the ball, and form the cross-over wedge for a blocking scheme. Getting the ball over our 35 yd line and putting the hurt on tacklers sets a decent tone. What's wrong with headhunting the headhunters?


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Hammock Parties 04-29-2007 08:00 PM

Bowe is going to raise LJ's YPC by 10. :drool:

mikey23545 04-29-2007 08:09 PM

You mean like "lift and separate"?

stlchiefs 04-29-2007 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric
Nfldraftcountdown just kills him about lack of separation.

How good is he at it?????????

The bun from the patty?

kcmaxwell 04-29-2007 08:15 PM

for real, i am excited by this guy!! and as its prior to preseason, and all the "woe is us" hasn't started yet, i am just pumped!!
maxwell

penchief 04-29-2007 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric
Sorry if it's stupid question but all Herm said was that he could make tough catches and he was physical and a good blocker; Made him sound like tight end, nothing I could remember about him separating. He did also say he ran good routes.

Gil Brandt said that Bowe is one of those guys that isn't quick but somehow gets open nearly every play.

El Jefe 04-29-2007 08:29 PM

Yeah I have done quite a bit of research on him and he definetely can, he fits our scheme perfectly, I bet he puts up good numbers next year, he is really solid, and so physical. My draft magazine has him as the best blocking WR in the draft, and I have read a bit about the corrective surgery he had on his eyes and it helped out his drops a lot. He ran a 4.40 in the combine so he can be quick too, he will take so much heat off Tony Gonzalez, I think Parker if he doesnt step up he is gone for sure maybe even in camp who knows.

Hammock Parties 04-29-2007 08:32 PM

I'm guessing this thread will be bumped during the regular season.

PastorMikH 04-29-2007 08:36 PM

FWIW, Gonzo usually has 2 guys hanging on him and is the most potent recieving threat on our team. If he were a WR, not only would there be pass interference flags thrown, but it would also be called zero separation.

Bowe isn't quite as big as Gonzo, but he looks every bit as strong.

LiL stumppy 04-29-2007 08:39 PM

Dont jum[ to conclusions on if he can or can't. NFL CB's are alot different than college CB's. I guess we will find out.

Mr. Laz 04-29-2007 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric
Can Dwayne Bowe separate????

the 10 million dollar question

Tribal Warfare 04-29-2007 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
the 10 million dollar question

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I think he can

El Jefe 04-29-2007 09:04 PM

Tribal Warfare I was just about to post the first video I cant figure out how, I still havent done that yet. The intro to that video is ridiculous man I love it. "King Kong aint got sh*t on me".

Mr. Laz 04-29-2007 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare
I think he can

getting separation in college doesn't always translate to the pros


maybe he can


evidently the Chiefs agree with you


what happen to Jarrett?

Tribal Warfare 04-29-2007 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
getting separation in college doesn't always translate to the pros


maybe he can


evidently the Chiefs agree with you


what happen to Jarrett?


I would've prefered Jarrett, but Bowe is a nice consolation

El Jefe 04-29-2007 09:12 PM

I really really like this guy, he seems like the total package. I thought we were gonna take Joe Staley but I knew a good bit about Bowe and I am glad we got him. I think he will be better than Jarrett who I thought should have gone in the first round too.

Tribal Warfare 04-29-2007 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ
Tribal Warfare I was just about to post the first video I cant figure out how,

What are you having a problem with?

Mecca 04-29-2007 09:15 PM

Jarrett is 6'5 Bowe is 6'2 and Bowe weighs more than Jarrett does.........

Bowe is alot more NFL ready in that he already knows how to be physical and beat the jams, Jarrett for all his size is still lanky and struggles with anyone who's heavily physical with him.

Hammock Parties 04-29-2007 09:21 PM

I don't know if I have enough good strong man love for Bowe AND LJ. This is going to test my resolve.

Hammock Parties 04-29-2007 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
Jarrett is 6'5 Bowe is 6'2 and Bowe weighs more than Jarrett does.........

Bowe is alot more NFL ready in that he already knows how to be physical and beat the jams, Jarrett for all his size is still lanky and struggles with anyone who's heavily physical with him.

I'm still captivated by Jarrett's freaky ball skills and redzone prowess, but if he can't get off the line he's useless. And Bowe IS faster.

Tribal Warfare 04-29-2007 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs
I don't know if I have enough good strong man love for Bowe AND LJ. This is going to test my resolve.



I'm really amped that KC might have got Sterling Sharpe 2.0

Hammock Parties 04-29-2007 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare
I'm really amped that KC might have got Sterling Sharpe 2.0

He reminds me more of TO. Watch him run on that WR screen in that video...smooth.

Tribal Warfare 04-29-2007 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs
He reminds me more of TO. Watch him run on that WR screen in that video...smooth.


Sterling was smooth too, and he wasn't a headcase like Owens.

Hammock Parties 04-29-2007 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare
Sterling was smooth too, and he wasn't a headcase like Owens.

Sharpe was more compact...Bowe is lanky like TO.

88TG88 04-29-2007 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6752070

"Russell and Bowe worked out together at LSU's Pro Day. It was an interesting sight. Bowe, who is built like he just skied down Mount Olympus to chuckle at us mortals, worked out shirtless and in tights. The fluffier Russell wore a pup tent."

interesting

Direckshun 04-29-2007 09:40 PM

I love that we got this guy instead of Ginn and Meachum.

Don't get me wrong, I would have been pleased with either of those gents, but to have a big, bad-ass receiver dealing some punishment out to defenders is just too good for me to pass up.

Herm's drafts seem quality so far.

2006 was strong, and 2007 seems solid so far.

Sure-Oz 04-29-2007 09:40 PM

Why did Jarrett fall so far, i was suprised that said im more happy to have bowe at this point.

Hammock Parties 04-29-2007 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz
Why did Jarrett fall so far.

Because he's a slow version of Ashley Lelie...

88TG88 04-29-2007 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz
Why did Jarrett fall so far, i was suprised that said im more happy to have bowe at this point.

Speed mostly. At this point he isn't much faster than most NFL CBs. He's gonna have to rely alot on his smarts and size to really succeed like he did as SC

Mecca 04-29-2007 09:42 PM

It's was his 40 more than anything, Mike Williams comparisons......stuff like that.

Jarrett is a project at some things, he has excellent ball skills but people question his ability to be physical or seperate.

Fairplay 04-29-2007 10:46 PM

He can seperate...oh yeah...he can seperate....
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Tribal Warfare 04-29-2007 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs
Sharpe was more compact...Bowe is lanky like TO.


Bowe is just one inch taller than Sharpe who is 6'1 215 Lbs

Mr. Flopnuts 04-29-2007 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare
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SWEET JESUS, HE WAS OFF BALANCE AND PUT THAT HIT ON. UGH!!!! That is AWESOME.

Hammock Parties 04-29-2007 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare
Bowe is just one inch taller than Sharpe who is 6'1 215 Lbs

Eh...I've seen Sharpe listed at 6 feet and Bowe at 6-3. It doesn't matter. Sharpe wasn't as lanky as Bowe. TO is the closest comparison in my mind.

Tribal Warfare 04-29-2007 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs
Eh...I've seen Sharpe listed at 6 feet and Bowe at 6-3. It doesn't matter. Sharpe wasn't as lanky as Bowe. TO is the closest comparison in my mind.


Dude I've met Sterling Sharpe, and he's a legit 6'1"

tk13 04-29-2007 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs
Eh...I've seen Sharpe listed at 6 feet and Bowe at 6-3. It doesn't matter. Sharpe wasn't as lanky as Bowe. TO is the closest comparison in my mind.

How many situps can Bowe do in his driveway? Then we'll really know if he's TO or Sterling Sharpe.

wazu 04-29-2007 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever
Once he gets those millions he will be separating some Kansas City legs.

That sounds like a proposition.

keg in kc 04-30-2007 12:00 AM

My guess is he'll be fine.

As much talk as there's been about his blocking and ability to break tackles, as important aspect of his physical presence would (assumedly) be an ability to physcially outmaneuver a DB in press coverage. If he beats the press and gets off the line, I think we'll that 4.4 - 4.5 speed is not slow. At all.

Now, some of that will come with experience, but if he's really the "football player" he's made out to be, he's potentially already leaps and bounds ahead of guys like Ginn, who have speed, but not the strength to beat coverage, not to mention disciplined route running.

The more I read/see, the more it looks like we got a complete receiver, and those, my friends, are rare.

Mecca 04-30-2007 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13
How many situps can Bowe do in his driveway? Then we'll really know if he's TO or Sterling Sharpe.

Well seeing as in these videos and workouts he likes to walk around with no shirt on.......probably alot.

ChiefsFanatic 04-30-2007 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13
How many situps can Bowe do in his driveway? Then we'll really know if he's TO or Sterling Sharpe.

Another test would be to determine if his brother is an assmunching, big-toothed, dickhead blowhard, or not.


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