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Deberg_1990 04-22-2013 06:57 AM

Covitz: Chiefs may use third day of NFL Draft to find skill players
 
http://www.kansascity.com/2013/04/21...ay-of-the.html



The club is set at running back with two-time Pro Bowler Jamaal Charles; they’ve re-signed wide receiver Dwayne Bowe and added Donnie Avery for outside speed; and they’ve acquired a new starting quarterback in Alex Smith as well as his backup Chase Daniel.

So the fourth through seventh rounds on Saturday will be the time to find a backup to Charles and another receiver to complement Bowe and Avery on the outside and compete with Dexter McCluster and Devon Wylie in the slot. And if one of those draft picks can return kicks, it wouldn’t hurt either considering the Chiefs haven’t returned a kick for a touchdown since opening night 2010.

The club could also draft a developmental quarterback in the mid-to-late rounds because it’s clear Ricky Stanzi, a fifth-round pick in 2011, is not the answer.
“You can find running backs at any point in the draft,” said ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. “It’s the one position where you can be as good as a rookie as you’ll ever be at any point down the road in your career, even if you come out as a junior.”

Indeed, a year ago, the NFL’s second-leading rusher, Alfred Morris of Washington was a sixth-round draft choice; the 11th leading-rusher, Vick Ballard of Indianapolis, was a fifth-round pick; and one of Baltimore’s key contributors to the Super Bowl was rookie Bernard Pierce, a third-round pick. And don’t forget Charles was a third-round pick by the Chiefs in 2008.

NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock believes Texas A&M running back Christine Michael could be a midround sleeper — literally. Michael missed an interview at the NFL Combine because an admitted alarm-clock error led to oversleeping, and worries about his dependability could cause him to slide.

“I showed up at the East-West game,” Mayock said, “and when you saw (Michael) next to five other running backs, he stood out ... great speed, quickness. He looked like a first- or second-round running back, and why was he at the East-West game? He should have been at the Senior Bowl.

“The answer is he had some issues at Texas A&M. So teams will have to do some homework on this kid. Most teams have fourth- or fifth-round grades on him like Morris a few years ago. He’s got first- or second-round talent.”

Other running backs who could be available in the third through fifth rounds include Clemson’s Andre Ellington, Michigan State’s Le’Veon Bell, Oklahoma State’s Joseph Randle, Oregon’s Kenjon Barner and Utah State’s Kerwynn Williams. Barner and Williams could be appealing because of their kick-return ability.

“He can catch the football, make you miss in space,” Mayock said of Barner, whose signature game was a 321-yard, five-touchdown performance against USC. “You could get him in the third round, and I think he’d be a pretty exciting player.”

Wide receiver Quinton Patton of Louisiana Tech combines receiving and kick- returning ability and could be available when the Chiefs open the third round. His best game last year came in a 59-57 loss to Texas A&M when he caught 11 passes for 233 yards and four touchdowns.

An intriguing player in the fourth through sixth rounds could be South Carolina wide receiver Ace Sanders. Sanders is small at 5 feet 7 and 173 pounds but caught 45 passes, including nine touchdowns last season and was SEC Special Teams Player of the Year. He averaged 15.3 yards per punt return and brought back punts for scores against Georgia (70 yards) and Michigan (63 yards).

“Sanders was a kid I thought should have stayed in school,” Mayock said. “He’s got wonderful returnability, and he’s coming off a big bowl game. So regardless of that, the kind of kids with his size and quickness typically fall somewhere in that plus or minus fourth round. If he went in the third round, it wouldn’t stun me, but I think he’s going to be a fourth- or fifth-round guy.”

Because the Chiefs spent a second-round pick to acquire Smith, it’s hard to believe they would take a quarterback in the first four rounds. But they will certainly look at Arkansas’ Tyler Wilson, Tennessee’s Tyler Bray, Syracuse’s Ryan Nassib, Oklahoma’s Landry Jones, North Carolina State’s Mike Glennon and Florida State’s E.J. Manuel, if any of them is sitting in the fourth round or slide to the fifth.

“Tyler Wilson is the forgotten man in this quarterback class now,” Kiper said. “He went into the year, you thought maybe late first round, early second round, then all of a sudden the wheels came off of the program. If he slides, he becomes a value pick, and if he gets into the third-, fourth-round mix, then there’s a kid who at one point, if things would have fallen right, could have been a first-round pick and I don’t think anybody could have argued with it.

“When you look at Tyler Bray, third round is when he gets really seriously into the discussion, fourth round. I’ve seen big strong-arm guys like Bray go earlier than I project. I’m looking at him as a third- or fourth-rounder … 6 foot 6, 232 pounds … who knows, maybe somebody takes him in the second.”

One quarterback off the radar who could be taken in the last few rounds is Duke’s Sean Renfree, whose stock fell because he suffered a torn pectoral muscle in his chest in the Belk Bowl and is still recovering.

“I don’t understand why he’s not more highly rated,” Mayock said of Renfree, who threw for 3,113 yards and completed 67 percent of his passes while playing with marginal talent. “I watched three tapes of his, and this kid gets it.

“He might be a fifth-round pick, but he’s got a work ethic like a Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan.”

TEX 04-22-2013 06:58 AM

The club could also draft a developmental quarterback in the mid-to-late rounds because it’s clear Ricky Stanzi, a fifth-round pick in 2011, is not the answer.

Was clear Day 1.

Mother****erJones 04-22-2013 07:01 AM

Or we could use our 2 3s and 1st overall pick to find skill players that will make a ****ing impact.

RealSNR 04-22-2013 07:05 AM

Because THAT'S the day when you should draft these kind of guys :banghead:

Imon Yourside 04-22-2013 07:06 AM

I may use everyday to bash these idiot star writers..Yup I think I will.

AussieChiefsFan 04-22-2013 07:06 AM

Orrrrr you could do this on Day 1 and 2 instead.

Mother****erJones 04-22-2013 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9613586)
Because THAT'S the day when you should draft these kind of guys :banghead:

I know right? What we do with our first 3 picks? 3 Tyson Jacksons?

Micjones 04-22-2013 07:10 AM

Miguel Maysonet in Round 6 or 7, please.
That kid could be the 2013 version of Alfred Morris.

Mother****erJones 04-22-2013 07:13 AM

Gavin Escobar at 3a would be nice. Good young tight end with some skill.

kepp 04-22-2013 07:39 AM

Isn't day 3 when you get your "project" or "could be good" players?

caligula 04-22-2013 07:45 AM

Chiefs may use draft to draft players

AussieChiefsFan 04-22-2013 07:45 AM

BREAKING:
Quote:

Originally Posted by caligula (Post 9613633)
Chiefs may use draft to draft players


In58men 04-22-2013 07:45 AM

Jesus Christ.


**** this draft, I can see us drafting Landry Jones in the 5th and calling it good. Why are coaches so ****ing stupid.

Chief Roundup 04-22-2013 07:45 AM

So the last few picks might be guys like. Bray, Tyler Wilson, Renfree, Miguel Maysonet, Tyrann Mathieu and so on.

Direckshun 04-22-2013 07:54 AM

I think Covitz is misinformed here, since he's arguing the Chiefs could opt for Patton in the third round, which is on the second day.

KC native 04-22-2013 07:54 AM

This article is a true fan's wet dream.

Fish 04-22-2013 08:19 AM

Team with #1 overall pick. May use 3rd day of draft to find skill players.

Of course... ****....

loochy 04-22-2013 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9613571)
The club could also draft a developmental quarterback in the mid-to-late rounds because it’s clear Ricky Stanzi, a fifth-round pick in 2011, is not the answer.

Was clear Day 1.

No. Didn't you watch his youtube highlight clip?

The Franchise 04-22-2013 09:02 AM

Come on guys......we have to use the first two days to fill the holes that we created.

gblowfish 04-22-2013 09:05 AM

Because everybody knows, the truly great skill players are found on the third day of the draft. Just ask Nate Eachus.

Chief Roundup 04-22-2013 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9613746)
Because everybody knows, the truly great skill players are found on the third day of the draft. Just ask Nate Eachus.

Tom Brady, Terrell Davis lead a stellar class of last day picks.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-22-2013 09:39 AM

With all the QB's in this draft that have potential I thinks its 83 all over again.

Deberg_1990 04-22-2013 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9613808)
With all the QB's in this draft that have potential I thinks its 83 all over again.

ROFL

So there will be 3 HoF QBs taken in the first?

AussieChiefsFan 04-22-2013 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9613808)
With all the QB's in this draft that have potential I thinks its 83 all over again.

You think? It could be like 83 in the sense that we won't get a good QB, but I don't think it'll be like 83 in the sense that there's lots of QB potential.

KC_Lee 04-22-2013 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9613846)
You think? It could be like every draft in franchise history in the sense that we won't get a good QB, but I don't think it'll be like 83 in the sense that there's lots of QB potential.

FYP.

AussieChiefsFan 04-22-2013 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 9613850)
FYP.

Nicely done.

gblowfish 04-22-2013 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9613771)
Tom Brady, Terrell Davis lead a stellar class of last day picks.

Two people is a class????

Chief Roundup 04-22-2013 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9613996)
Two people is a class????

Uh no they are just the leading two. Keep up now.

RealSNR 04-22-2013 12:07 PM

Tom Brady happened, guys.

Therefore, it's entirely okay to only invest in late-round prospects. Just don't draft anything higher than the 3rd round and you'll be good. We don't want another Matt Blundin on our hands, that's for sure!

Rausch 04-22-2013 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9613808)
With all the QB's in this draft that have potential I thinks its 83 all over again.

Not true.

They're all pieces of $#it that aren't worth having until someone else drafts them...

MMXcalibur 04-22-2013 12:39 PM

I hate the term "value pick".

Chris Meck 04-22-2013 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9613808)
With all the QB's in this draft that have potential I thinks its 83 all over again.

NO. This is a subpar QB draft, and the only reason we're paying it this much attention is because we desperately need one and we have the 1.1 pick.

BlackHelicopters 04-22-2013 04:36 PM

Covitz is employed. Think about that for a moment.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 04-22-2013 05:09 PM

Charles was a third-round pick by the Chiefs in 2008. Crap, he's no spring chicken.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-22-2013 05:44 PM

"Chiefs may pursue True Fan fantasy"
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Setsuna 04-22-2013 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9613636)
Jesus Christ.


**** this draft, I can see us drafting Landry Jones in the 5th and calling it good. Why are coaches so ****ing stupid.

LMAO that's still too high.

DTLB58 04-22-2013 07:05 PM

2013 NFL Draft: Seven-round mock forecasts every pick, 1 to 254

By Josh Norris

ROUND 4
99. Chiefs: Andre Ellington, RB, Clemson.

ROUND 5
134. Chiefs: Marquise Goodwin, WR, Texas.

ROUND 6
170. Chiefs: Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma.

ROUND 7
207. Chiefs: Philip Lutzenkirchen, TE, Auburn.

For the sake of this thread title I just listed the skilled players in day 3 of the draft. Sounds like this guy read this article first.
If you wanna read his entire mock, it was just posted. http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap10...-pick-1-to-254

Ming the Merciless 04-22-2013 07:07 PM

awesome, i hear 3rd day is where you want to obtain your skill players

sweet plan

Simply Red 04-22-2013 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9614163)
Tom Brady happened, guys.

Therefore, it's entirely okay to only invest in late-round prospects. Just don't draft anything higher than the 3rd round and you'll be good. We don't want another Matt Blundin on our hands, that's for sure!

may Tyler Bray get a lifetime subscription to Cock's Illustrated.

Dallas Chief 04-22-2013 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9613636)
Jesus Christ.


**** this draft, I can see us drafting Landry Jones in the 5th and calling it good. Why are coaches so ****ing stupid.

I'm a huge OU fan and can't help but think that KC is destined to draft Landry Jones...and the thought of it makes me ill. The nightmare of it just won't let me be :/

Anyong Bluth 04-22-2013 09:36 PM

No mention of Baldwin?

Am I the only one that's at least reserving some optimism that in order to show he's worth 2 shits you have to have a QB actually able to get the ball to him?

Yes, the Alex Smith detractors will say he can't either, but seriously, watching Cassel struggle even to complete dump off passes and saftety outlet passes to guys coming out off the backfield - often overthrowing them or leaving the pass short for them to scoop off down by their feet, which meant never guiding them with an opportunity to turn it up the field to make a play or pick up + yardage. Hell, how many times did he even set those guys up for getting lit up as a LB or DB would already be tracking the our back and ready to blow him up or break up the pass.


Does everyone feel Baldwin is simply in purgatory and simply playing out his remaining rookie contract before unceremoniously cast off by the new régime?


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