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Sully 08-15-2013 08:02 PM

Movies using music... Has it changed how you've heard a song?
 
I admit I am easily manipulated by music within scenes on TV and in movies. It's put in there for a reason... to elicit an emotion, and I fall victim to it every time. Scorsese, Sorkin, Crowe, and Soderburg are, IMO, the best at this.

My question is this...
Has there ever been a song that, due to its placement in a show or movie, has changed the way you've heard it forever?

What got me thinking about this was the Dire Straits song, "Brothers in Arms," which was in the West Wing episode, "Two Cathedrals." (BTW, for my money the greatest TV episode ever created). Without being knowledgeable of the lyrics, or anything about the song other than the mood it set on that show, it's now a song I seek out due to the way it brings me calm when the shot hits the fan.

Any song like that for you?

notorious 08-15-2013 08:45 PM

Donnie Darko Mad World.

Sully 08-15-2013 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9888805)
Donnie Darko Mad World.

Agreed

Oddly enough, since the song isn't in the movie, I think about that movie every time I hear the song "Talk Dirty to Me," because it has the words "cellar door" in it.

Buns 08-15-2013 09:51 PM

Goodfellas - "layla" And reservoir dogs - "stick in the middle with you" are two that immediately come to mind. The opening credits song from Drive, Kavinsky's "Nightcall" is one of those just perfect combos that stuck with me. Also, an episode of Entourage used Radiohead's "fake plastic trees" in an awesome way as well. Entourage just used music in a great way all the time.

Buck 08-15-2013 10:00 PM

Sandlot - Tequila

Psyko Tek 08-15-2013 10:09 PM

anybody remember the Miami Vice pilot, Phil Collins, In The Air Tonight,
was a great visual and worked for me ,I was mid teens
always think of that when I hear the song


gonna have to see if there is a u tube clip



the other one I have is hit girl and The Dickies doing banna splits, surreal , gorgeous violence

Dallas Chief 08-15-2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Virtua Chief (Post 9889025)
Goodfellas - "layla" And reservoir dogs - "stick in the middle with you" are two that immediately come to mind. The opening credits song from Drive, Kavinsky's "Nightcall" is one of those just perfect combos that stuck with me. Also, an episode of Entourage used Radiohead's "fake plastic trees" in an awesome way as well. Entourage just used music in a great way all the time.

Goodfellas and "Jump Into the Fire" for me. Absolutely unforgettable with the helicopters and the guns and all that. Scorcese can really nail a moment with music. IMHO....

big nasty kcnut 08-15-2013 11:13 PM

trailers do that to me i hear a song on a trailer and i have to download it.

Sannyasi 08-16-2013 01:19 AM

I listen to the Pixies quite a bit, and every time I hear "Where Is My Mind" it makes me think of the end of Fight Club. That was a great moment.

|Zach| 08-16-2013 01:34 AM

American Graffiti changed a lot of songs for me.

DaneMcCloud 08-16-2013 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Virtua Chief (Post 9889025)
Goodfellas - "layla" And reservoir dogs - "stick in the middle with you" are two that immediately come to mind. The opening credits song from Drive, Kavinsky's "Nightcall" is one of those just perfect combos that stuck with me. Also, an episode of Entourage used Radiohead's "fake plastic trees" in an awesome way as well. Entourage just used music in a great way all the time.

You're hearing Scott Vener on Entourage. He's the music supervisor and chooses all of the songs for each episode.

DaneMcCloud 08-16-2013 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9889339)
American Graffiti changed a lot of songs for me.

Because you were hearing songs from that era in context?

|Zach| 08-16-2013 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9889341)
Because you were hearing songs from that era in context?

Interesting question.

I already had an inclination for songs of the era but I think it brought some to a new level.

Having said that I as a photographer first but also an avid music lover I am often prone to being hit hard when a good song and visual are connected.

DaneMcCloud 08-16-2013 01:38 AM

Like others, I've never heard Layla the same since seeing frozen gangsters in a refrigerated truck.

I can't think of too many others right now but I didn't like the song Shadow of the Sun, from the first Audioslave record, until I saw it against picture in Collateral.

|Zach| 08-16-2013 01:41 AM

It feels like whenever there is some movie where a person is strung out on drugs and they want to get that shot of them passing out in super glorious slow motion they always play Blinded By The Light.

Cheater5 08-16-2013 05:58 AM

'Satisfaction' in Apocalypse Now. Great imagery in that movie, and when I hear that song I instantly associate it with the Vietnam War.

Rasputin 08-16-2013 06:16 AM

When I listen to Bohemian Rhapsody today I'd really wish I never watched Wayne's World.

Rasputin 08-16-2013 06:26 AM

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chasedude 08-16-2013 06:27 AM

Not that I don't like modern rock used in soundtracks, I miss the symphonic scores rarely used these days. Kubricks "2001 A Space Odyssey" comes to mind with it's use of Strauss and others

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Requiem for a Dream's soundtrack is another example of the symphonic score which has been used in other films but I love its simple style.

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chasedude 08-16-2013 06:32 AM

Star Wars Imperial March is so Iconic now. Great Orchestral score

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chasedude 08-16-2013 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheater5 (Post 9889392)
'Satisfaction' in Apocalypse Now. Great imagery in that movie, and when I hear that song I instantly associate it with the Vietnam War.

Awesome Movie Soundtrack... One of my fav scenes is Air Cav blasting Wagner over loudspeakers to scare the vietnamese.

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Buns 08-16-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9889340)
You're hearing Scott Vener on Entourage. He's the music supervisor and chooses all of the songs for each episode.

Like others, I've never heard Layla the same since seeing frozen gangsters in a refrigerated truck.

I can't think of too many others right now but I didn't like the song Shadow of the Sun, from the first Audioslave record, until I saw it against picture in Collateral.

He is a amazing.

The album version of that song has a different guitar solo than the movie version. The movie's version is more traditional.

Deberg_1990 08-16-2013 09:37 AM

Zodiac. Hurdy Gurdy Man.

patteeu 08-16-2013 10:01 AM

Two songs that I can think of along those lines are:

1. Burning Bridges from the end of the movie Kelly's Heroes.

2. Worst Day Since Yesterday from the end of an episode of Stargate Universe.

patteeu 08-16-2013 10:09 AM

The entire movie Moulin Rouge is filled with songs that seemed transformed in that there were many late 20th century pop songs that were made to fit well in a movie set in 1899. Many of the songs sounded like they could have been written for the movie even though they weren't.

frankotank 08-16-2013 10:11 AM

not really a loggins fan.....but.....

Danger Zone from Top Gun

I may not have liked it if not for the movie.

"Slider...you stink!"

frankotank 08-16-2013 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9889407)
When I listen to Bohemian Rhapsody today I'd really wish I never watched Wayne's World.

yeah...good one....ruined it. great damn song too...

frankotank 08-16-2013 10:17 AM

Stuck In The Middle With You - Michael Madson is dancing and singing along with this song when he cuts the cops ear off in Reservoir Dogs.

JFC

Buehler445 08-16-2013 10:25 AM

Goddamn requiem for a dream.

Buehler445 08-16-2013 10:27 AM

On the same token I've hear songs before they were in a movie and its killed the movie because I thought to myself, " I know this song. It is lame."

Frazod 08-16-2013 10:31 AM

Tiny Dancer from Almost Famous. What a great scene. I always think of that now when I hear that song. I also really like the song now, whereas before I never really gave it much thought.

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Rausch 08-16-2013 10:55 AM

Tarantino might have been the best at using music to set a scene.

Requiem For A Dream definitely left a mark...

cosmo20002 08-16-2013 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 9888645)
I admit I am easily manipulated by music within scenes on TV and in movies. It's put in there for a reason... to elicit an emotion, and I fall victim to it every time. Scorsese, Sorkin, Crowe, and Soderburg are, IMO, the best at this.

My question is this...
Has there ever been a song that, due to its placement in a show or movie, has changed the way you've heard it forever?

Any song like that for you?

When I hear Stuck in the Middle With You, it makes me think about a guy getting his ear cut off.

And when I hear that song from Silence of the Lambs when the guy is dancing in front of the video camera with his junk tucked in makes me think about that guy dancing in front of a video camera with his junk tucked in.

frankotank 08-16-2013 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 9890295)
When I hear Stuck in the Middle With You, it makes me think about a guy getting his ear cut off.

that is GOLD right there!
****ING GOLD!


(post 28)

cosmo20002 08-16-2013 12:58 PM

Sister Christian - that scene from Boogie Nights

Don't Stop Believin now always is the last scene from the Sopranos

frankotank 08-16-2013 01:03 PM

whenever I hear The Cars - Moving In Stereo....I instantly get a strong desire for some alone time...... :D

nsfw - tits!

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cosmo20002 08-16-2013 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by frankotank (Post 9890316)
that is GOLD right there!
****ING GOLD!


(post 28)

Ha--I see you already mentioned that. What's great is that the song would seem to have no connection whatsoever to such a disturbing scene.

Pepe Silvia 08-16-2013 01:06 PM

When I hear the guitar solo to Layla by Eric Clapton I can't help but think of a mafia dude hanging in a frozen meat truck.

frankotank 08-16-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 9890368)
Ha--I see you already mentioned that. What's great is that the song would seem to have no connection whatsoever to such a disturbing scene.

yes I KNOW. it's all happy sappy...he's dancing and singing...oh and by the way cutting the guys ****ing EAR OFF!
then he says something into the detached ear and says...can you hear that....and laughs. just disturbing as ****!

so now that song.....always reminds me of dismemberment. :shake:

Frazod 08-16-2013 01:18 PM

I guess this is sort of obscure now, but the scene from Teachers where Nolte is going to quit and all the students quietly file into his classroom is really cool. The song is Edge of a Dream by Joe Cocker.

Deberg_1990 08-16-2013 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9889912)
Tarantino might have been the best at using music to set a scene.

Requiem For A Dream definitely left a mark...

QT is pretty amazing how he pulls obscure songs and makes them his own.

The Bowie song from Cat People was used amazingly in Inglorious Basterds.

underEJ 08-16-2013 05:39 PM

Alone Again Or from Bottle Rocket. Can't take a road trip without it now!

Demonpenz 08-16-2013 05:42 PM

Everytime I hear one vision by queen I think about the famous scene when doug masters pops in a cassette in his f-16.


chappppyy

notorious 08-16-2013 05:59 PM

Full Metal Jacket - Paint it Black

BigRedChief 08-16-2013 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by frankotank (Post 9890359)
whenever I hear The Cars - Moving In Stereo....I instantly get a strong desire for some alone time...... :D

nsfw - tits!

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The video stores had to keep ordering more video tapes because that part of the tape kept breaking.

BigRedChief 08-16-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9890931)
QT is pretty amazing how he pulls obscure songs and makes them his own.

THIS!

No director is consistently better at using music to create art in movies.

DaneMcCloud 08-16-2013 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9889912)
Tarantino might have been the best at using music to set a scene.

That wasn't Tarantino.

That was Karyn Rachtman.

Yes, Rikki Rachtman's sister.

DaneMcCloud 08-16-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9889863)
Tiny Dancer from Almost Famous. What a great scene. I always think of that now when I hear that song. I also really like the song now, whereas before I never really gave it much thought.

Cameron Crowe has such an amazing feel for soundtrack and score but his best friend from childhood, Danny Bramson is the real star.

As great as the Tiny Dancer was in that movie, Mona Lisa and Mad Hatters really gets me every time. Plus, The Raspberries "Go All the Way" is such an incredible song, heard in one the Lester Bangs scenes, but for some unknown reason, it's not on the soundtrack

DaneMcCloud 08-16-2013 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9891297)
THIS!

No director is consistently better at using music to create art in movies.

Except it's not him

notorious 08-16-2013 08:48 PM

Fight Club end scene with the Pixies was perfectly done.

Dallas Chief 08-17-2013 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 9890325)
Sister Christian - that scene from Boogie Nights

Don't Stop Believin now always is the last scene from the Sopranos

Yep to both of these! Magnet and Steel always sticks in my mnd from Boogie Nights

Sorter 08-17-2013 12:45 AM

"Kiss the Girl" always reminds me of crabs.

Mojo Jojo 08-17-2013 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Virtua Chief (Post 9889025)
Goodfellas - "layla" And reservoir dogs - "stick in the middle with you" are two that immediately come to mind. The opening credits song from Drive, Kavinsky's "Nightcall" is one of those just perfect combos that stuck with me. Also, an episode of Entourage used Radiohead's "fake plastic trees" in an awesome way as well. Entourage just used music in a great way all the time.

Goodfellas and Reservoir Dogs were the first two that jumped into my mind. I also like the way When You Wish Upon A Star is used throught Close Encounters.

Al Bundy 08-17-2013 01:42 AM

Uhhmm the entire soundtracks for Boyz In The Hood and New Jack City.

DJJasonp 08-17-2013 10:29 AM

Already mentioned - Donnie Darko "Mad World" and "Head over Heels" (and depending upon what version of the film you watch.....the opening with Echo and the Bunnymen's "Killing Moon" is amazing).

Sister Christian and Boogie Nights for sure

Fincher uses music in his films quite nicely (opening credits of Seven being a NIN remix of "Closer", etc.)

Baz Luhrmann has a way with music as well (the gospel rendition of "When Doves Cry" in Romeo and Juliet comes to mind).

Deberg_1990 08-17-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9892702)
Cameron Crowe has such an amazing feel for soundtrack and score but his best friend from childhood, Danny Bramson is the real star.

As great as the Tiny Dancer was in that movie, Mona Lisa and Mad Hatters really gets me every time. Plus, The Raspberries "Go All the Way" is such an incredible song, heard in one the Lester Bangs scenes, but for some unknown reason, it's not on the soundtrack

MY fathers gun in Elizabethtown.

Springsteen in Jerry Maguire

Peter Gabriel in Say Anything.

Crowe uses music as well as anyone.
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Buns 08-17-2013 01:13 PM

Pretty much anytime a song was used in Forrest Gump, it was perfect.

Rasputin 08-17-2013 04:49 PM

Danger Zone



You know what movie that is from I don't have to say it.

Rasputin 08-17-2013 05:05 PM

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Frazod 08-17-2013 07:04 PM

Another good one.

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mr. tegu 08-17-2013 11:10 PM

Ecstasy of Gold at the end of The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.

Baby Lee 08-18-2013 08:32 AM

TV is getting good at matching music to intended emotional beats.

But it's almost becoming overdone, with an industry of new music acts almost entirely catering to TV.

notorious 08-18-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 9896713)
TV is getting good at matching music to intended emotional beats.

But it's almost becoming overdone, with an industry of new music acts almost entirely catering to TV.

Walking Dead and Breaking Bad are awesome at matching music to the scene.

Mojo Jojo 08-18-2013 11:54 AM

For TV...House always had good soundtracks to set the mood for different episodes.

Buehler445 08-18-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 9897015)
For TV...House always had good soundtracks to set the mood for different episodes.

Truth. And honestly, so did Scrubs.

DaneMcCloud 08-18-2013 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 9896713)
TV is getting good at matching music to intended emotional beats.

But it's almost becoming overdone, with an industry of new music acts almost entirely catering to TV.

Again, it's the music supervisors. Season Kent and Alex Patsavas are two of the best supervisors out there.

This "cottage" industry of music supervision has basically come into being due to less jobs and possibilities for talented people working in the music industry.

Instead of doing A&R, signing and developing bands, music supers are listening to music and placing it in TV shows and film.

I can't tell you how many Berkelee grad's I've worked with in the past year that know every song ever recorded from about 1948 to 2013. It's pretty amazing.

DaneMcCloud 08-18-2013 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 9897015)
For TV...House always had good soundtracks to set the mood for different episodes.

You're referring to score, which is completely different from song placement or "soundtrack".

DaneMcCloud 08-18-2013 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9897115)
Truth. And honestly, so did Scrubs.

Again, score.

I met and hung out with Jan (Scrubs composer) a few years back at an event. He's as odd as the music he creates.

Mojo Jojo 08-18-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9897127)
You're referring to score, which is completely different from song placement or "soundtrack".

No I was referring to song placement...use of music that was not written for that particular TV show...REM "Everybody Hurts"...Warren Zevon "Keep Me In Your Heart"...Curtis Mayfield "Superfly"...etc.

DaneMcCloud 08-18-2013 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 9897340)
No I was referring to song placement...use of music that was not written for that particular TV show...REM "Everybody Hurts"...Warren Zevon "Keep Me In Your Heart"...Curtis Mayfield "Superfly"...etc.

Oh, yeah, that's Gary Calamar. He's awesome.

DJJasonp 08-18-2013 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 9897340)
No I was referring to song placement...use of music that was not written for that particular TV show...REM "Everybody Hurts"...Warren Zevon "Keep Me In Your Heart"...Curtis Mayfield "Superfly"...etc.

And to give credit where credit's due.....even though I never really watched "House"....I believe the opening credits are Massive Attack's "Tear Drops"

And yes, Massive Attack is amazing.

DaneMcCloud 08-18-2013 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 9897748)
And yes, Massive Attack is amazing.

Yeah, it is Massive Attack and yes they are

ChiefsCountry 08-18-2013 07:42 PM

The new Dallas used a few Johnny Cash songs in scenes that fit perfect.

BigRedChief 08-18-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9894766)
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I love the music in that movie.

Pepe Silvia 08-18-2013 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9894766)
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Greatest movie ever, I got to see it at a theater that was playing it one weekend only back in 2006, there were people everywhere dressed up like all the different gangs, I was dressed in regular clothes because I'm a boring normal dude.

Munson 08-18-2013 08:00 PM

"Don't You (Forget About Me)" - The Breakfast Club

"Por Ti Volare" - Step Brothers

"Afternoon Delight" - Anchorman

"Johnny B. Goode" - Back to the Future

"Take My Breath Away" and "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'" - Top Gun

"Unchained Melody" - Ghost

frankotank 08-19-2013 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 9897819)
Greatest movie ever, I got to see it at a theater that was playing it one weekend only back in 2006, there were people everywhere dressed up like all the different gangs, I was dressed in regular clothes because I'm a boring normal dude.

well...actually....it's been rerunning a lot lately. I watched it again very recently. much like the Planet Of The Apes movies from my youth.....I remembered it being TOTALLY AWESOME.....but watching it again....umm...there are some totally absolutely laughable moments....and said moments weren't supposed to be funny.

not a very good movie really. the nostalgic memory of it is so much better than the reality!

Frazod 08-19-2013 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankotank (Post 9898509)
well...actually....it's been rerunning a lot lately. I watched it again very recently. much like the Planet Of The Apes movies from my youth.....I remembered it being TOTALLY AWESOME.....but watching it again....umm...there are some totally absolutely laughable moments....and said moments weren't supposed to be funny.

not a very good movie really. the nostalgic memory of it is so much better than the reality!

Yeah, it didn't age well. Watching it as a grown up doesn't help much, either. Not so easy to identify a bunch of gang punks as heroes when you're in your 40s.

Dayze 08-19-2013 09:02 AM

Sopranos - Comfortably Numb

DaneMcCloud 08-19-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9898530)
Sopranos - Comfortably Numb

That changed the way you hear "Comfortably Numb"?

See, I think placements like these are lame and uncreative. "Everybody Hurts".

Lame.

What's particularly creative and inspiring to me is when a non-hit song that only fans of a certain band know is used in a emotional and moving way.

Someone earlier mentioned the Radiohead song "Fake Plastic Trees" on the season finale of Entourage, which was brilliant (and in my long standing opinion, should have been the series ending episode).

That was an excellent example of creative song usage. When the obvious hit song is used, it's just another excuse for a network or movie studio to exploit their own publishing catalog.


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