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Hammock Parties 11-19-2012 09:14 PM

Bill Maas says something smart
 
Nailed it. And he revealed that he talked to someone who knew Pioli personally before he was hired and recommended that he not be.

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Chiefspants 11-19-2012 09:19 PM

That blows.

Simply Red 11-19-2012 09:21 PM

**** Bill Maas.

Deberg_1990 11-19-2012 09:22 PM

The next time Maas says something smart will be his first.

BigRedChief 11-19-2012 09:24 PM

WTF? He just told SOC to raise $8 million and then give it to Clark to acquire FA's to improve the team. He is dead to me.

Chiefaholic 11-19-2012 09:25 PM

spot on... It doesn't matter WHEN Pioli is fired right now because the season's already in the tank. However, Clark needs to take his time finding the new GM and hopefully get it right this time.

wazu 11-19-2012 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 9135195)
spot on... It doesn't matter WHEN Pioli is fired right now because the season's already in the tank. However, Clark needs to take his time finding the new GM and hopefully get it right this time.

That's the thing. If he hires a GM today, he has that much longer to evaluate existing resources and get his scout team ready to go. Why wait? Is there anything of value that Pioli provides day-to-day right now?

notorious 11-19-2012 09:43 PM

Did he really take credit for suggesting Marty as the HC?


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Ace Gunner 11-19-2012 09:45 PM

So, Maas just told Clark to not be an absentee owner. With regard to the Chiefs/NFL, I doubt Clark can be anything else but an absentee owner.

Deberg_1990 11-19-2012 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9135276)
Did he really take credit for suggesting Marty as the HC?


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yea......what a dumbass.

O.city 11-19-2012 09:48 PM

So what exactly did he say?

RealSNR 11-19-2012 09:49 PM

Bill Maas, what one thing would you say to the Chiefs right now?

PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL

Simply Red 11-19-2012 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9135300)
Bill Maas, what one thing would you say to the Chiefs right now?

PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL

can't stop the marching powder.

notorious 11-19-2012 09:50 PM

I liked what he said about family.


The fans are there for him. We will not judge him for his mistake, just fix it and move on.

DTLB58 11-19-2012 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9135276)
Did he really take credit for suggesting Marty as the HC?


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YES

Chiefaholic 11-19-2012 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 9135269)
That's the thing. If he hires a GM today, he has that much longer to evaluate existing resources and get his scout team ready to go. Why wait? Is there anything of value that Pioli provides day-to-day right now?

The sooner Clark hires a GM the better obviously. However, he needs to do a lot of freakin research this round and pick the right guy for the position. I don't really blame him for initially hiring Pioli based upon his resume. However, it's time to swallow his pride, admit the hire was a mistake, and get a different canidate in here that has plenty of experience building successful franchises.

kysirsoze 11-19-2012 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 9135269)
That's the thing. If he hires a GM today, he has that much longer to evaluate existing resources and get his scout team ready to go. Why wait? Is there anything of value that Pioli provides day-to-day right now?

I don't think Pioli provides any value, but unless his replacement is sitting around, waiting to be hired mid-season, I don't know the value in firing him immediately.

It seems to me the most attractive candidates would be busy on their current teams right now. I know coaches usually finish out seasons before entertaining upward mobility on other teams. Are front office guys not expected to do the same?

keg in kc 11-20-2012 12:02 AM

It takes a great deal of courage and integrity and intestinal fortitude to come out and say that bit about the "person he knew" in 2012 after Pioli has failed. I'd be a bit more impressed if this video was from 2009 and he was speaking in the present tense giving a warning for the future.

DaneMcCloud 11-20-2012 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9135575)
It takes a great deal of courage and integrity and intestinal fortitude to come out and say that bit about the "person he knew" in 2012 after Pioli has failed. I'd be a bit more impressed if this video was from 2009 and he was speaking in the present tense giving a warning for the future.

Maas is a phony

Titty Meat 11-20-2012 12:14 AM

Bill Maas is the new Nick Athan

KCUnited 11-20-2012 06:15 AM

Together Is Powderful

BlackHelicopters 11-20-2012 07:27 AM

Maas was surprisingly lucid. Smart is a stretch. He made some valid points, but broke no new ground.

Rausch 11-20-2012 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9135746)
Maas was surprisingly lucid. Smart is a stretch. He made some valid points, but broke no new ground.

In his own mongoloid way he basically said Clark isn't a football guy and needs to bring in better football minds to advise him.

This, amazingly enough, would be a "moment of clarity" from him...

Hog's Gone Fishin 11-20-2012 09:22 AM

I thought it was a good message.

Lex Luthor 11-20-2012 09:27 AM

My opinion of Bill Maas will alway be clouded by memories of him saying over and over in post-game shows that someday Brodie Croyle will be playing in significant games in the NFL, and that the Chiefs need to be the team he plays them for.

HC_Chief 11-20-2012 09:35 AM

My favorite "Maasism" is when he said "...just throw a helmet out on the field; we'll win that one!" in reference to a Chiefs/Pats game circa 1992.

The 1992 Patriots were putrid; not unlike this year's Chiefs team. Still, they took offense to Maas' slight and played their asses off, nearly winning the game AT Arrowhead.

Chief Roundup 11-20-2012 09:44 AM

I like the idea of a panel of football people, but the problem is Marty seems to be the only football mind that Clark knows other than what we are trying to rid ourselves of.

jAZ 11-20-2012 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9135276)
Did he really take credit for suggesting Marty as the HC?


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Demanding, really.

jwhit 11-20-2012 10:26 AM

Wow. Maas just basically asked Clark Hunt to hire him as a consultant.

Maas took credit for hiring Marty Schottenheimer. Maas then said his sources told him Pioli would be a bad hire. Then Maas said he identified Mike Tomlin as a head coach before anyone else.

Maas doesn't want a panel of experts. He wants Clark Hunt to believe Bill Maas is his football family and Bill Maas can save the Chiefs.

Jeezuz.

Hammock Parties 11-20-2012 10:31 AM

LOL. Whitlock makes pretty good points.

The idea of Maas advising Clark is pretty scary.

Hog's Gone Fishin 11-20-2012 10:40 AM

I always liked Marty, I'd be happy as hell if he was back to run thing. I know, I'm stuped !

htismaqe 11-20-2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9136214)
LOL. Whitlock makes pretty good points.

The idea of Maas advising Clark is pretty scary.

Who knows, maybe Clark is looking for a different avenue to procure some blow...

T-post Tom 11-20-2012 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwhit (Post 9136197)

Maas doesn't want a panel of experts. He wants Clark Hunt to believe Bill Maas is his football family and Bill Maas can save the Chiefs.

Jeezuz.

You worked with Bill, so I'll go with your hypothesis. Do you think Clark Hunt would benefit from Bill's advice?

In your mind, is there anyone (else) from Chiefs' history that Clark should call on for "football" advice?

KCFaninSEA 11-20-2012 11:20 AM

Most people worth a look for a GM job are currently working somewhere else. Probably not a good idea to go and try to raid another organization midseason. The one name I can think of that most consider a good front office guy is Bill Polian.

Cheater5 11-20-2012 11:51 AM

I think people assume too much regarding Clark Hunt and his alleged behind the scenes work to find a GM. No, I don't know people inside the organization, but I have worked at higher level/operational organizations and the assumption is always "they HAVE to know what's going on...the boss must be acutely aware of the problem and is working a solution."

More often than not, he is does not have the accurate read because the very people who need to be removed are helping him define the problem. I say this especially in the case of bosses who are hands off and put a large amount of responsibility for running the show on their subordinates.

I don't think Clark is on the verge of firing anyone. I don't think he's even begun to explore potential GM or HC candidates. On one side he's witnessing a stream of Bloody Sundays, and on the other he's got Pioli telling him the "way ahead" out of this mess...probably throwing RAC under the bus, I'd guess.

My guess is he's just begun seeking counsel outside One Arrowhead Drive with some of his father's old partners. We won't see any movement whatsoever until most likely post-Super Bowl. Just my guess.

T-post Tom 11-20-2012 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KCFaninSEA (Post 9136353)
Most people worth a look for a GM job are currently working somewhere else. Probably not a good idea to go and try to raid another organization midseason. The one name I can think of that most consider a good front office guy is Bill Polian.

I've heard Polian mentioned as well as Charley Casserly and Jerry Angelo. Other than that, the choices do seem pretty slim until after the season.

FAX 11-20-2012 11:56 AM

ROFL

Maas went full Dear Abby on this deal. Put a beehive wig on that boy.

FAX

gretnanefan 11-20-2012 12:01 PM

i agree with chiefaholic hunt needs to take his time and have the right people hired, then let the firing begin!

Rausch 11-20-2012 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 9136432)
ROFL

Maas went full Dear Abby on this deal. Put a beehive wig on that boy.

FAX

You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't...

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jallmon 11-20-2012 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwhit (Post 9136197)
Wow. Maas just basically asked Clark Hunt to hire him as a consultant.

Maas took credit for hiring Marty Schottenheimer. Maas then said his sources told him Pioli would be a bad hire. Then Maas said he identified Mike Tomlin as a head coach before anyone else.

Maas doesn't want a panel of experts. He wants Clark Hunt to believe Bill Maas is his football family and Bill Maas can save the Chiefs.

Jeezuz.

Oh, boy. We can have our very own Matt Millen.

Rausch 11-20-2012 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwhit (Post 9136197)
Wow. Maas just basically asked Clark Hunt to hire him as a consultant.

Maas took credit for hiring Marty Schottenheimer. Maas then said his sources told him Pioli would be a bad hire. Then Maas said he identified Mike Tomlin as a head coach before anyone else.

Maas doesn't want a panel of experts. He wants Clark Hunt to believe Bill Maas is his football family and Bill Maas can save the Chiefs.

Jeezuz.

And during his parade of stupid he did make one good point: Clark, hire some good football people that you trust and lean on them...

dallaschiefsfan 11-20-2012 12:47 PM

Any guy that knows NFL player personnel people - and is NOT looking for a GM job - has the potential to be a decent adviser. I have no clue who that would be...but those are the only types that I want for advising Clark.


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