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Deberg_1990 10-07-2004 06:58 PM

Friday Night Lights....
 
Yeah yeah...I know..another movie thread....I guess im on a movie kick tonight......so who is gonna go check this one out? I read the book about 10 years ago or so and its a classic...I hope the movie captures the spirit of it. There is nothing like Texas High School Football....

irishjayhawk 10-07-2004 11:09 PM

Absolutely sucks. Great comedy though. There's a cheerleader that gets her shit tossed. Other than that...boring.

Seriously don't go.

tk13 10-07-2004 11:11 PM

I've always wanted to read this book but haven't ever gotten around to buying it... I think I want to read it before ever seeing the movie.

KcMizzou 10-07-2004 11:21 PM

Scored 82% on Rotten Tomatoes..

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/friday_night_lights/

I thought it looked pretty good. I'll catch it on DVD if nothing else.

Taco John 10-07-2004 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kcsportsguy
There's a cheerleader that gets her shit tossed.



What does that even mean?

TEX 10-07-2004 11:36 PM

Odessa Permian was/is a pretty bad A$$ H.S. Football program and so is Dallas Carter. Living in Texas all my life, I'm pretty familar with the state's best H.S. programs. Friday nights here are pretty special. :thumb:

BigRedChief 10-07-2004 11:48 PM

whats it about? Small town team beats big city team?

tk13 10-08-2004 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990
There is nothing like Texas High School Football....

Indiana High School Basketball baby!... :)

Jenson71 10-08-2004 12:06 AM

My whole team is seeing this tomorrow morning. Well, there's a good chance.

Jenson71 10-08-2004 12:18 AM

Gal-damn Bush is behind that.

tk13 10-08-2004 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
I'd go so far as to say Indiana HS b-ball is more unique than Texas HS football.

I think the fact that Texans think they're more passionate about HS football than everyone else in the country is just more typical Texas arrogance.

fucking Texans.

Many in Indiana probably wouldn't think that as much anymore because we went to a class system about 6 years ago. I didn't have a problem with it really, but I went to a small school that always got its behind kicked by a school 3-4 times our size in the sectional (1st round of the tourney if you will). Some places it's died down I suppose, where I'm from I don't think it has a lot. I went to the sectional round last year and on the Friday night when there were four teams playing (all schools of around 300 kids or less)... and there had to be 3000-4000 people there... filling up the concourse that runs around the top of the bleachers (sunken bowl-type gym). Fun times.

Plus I forget the exact number, but something like 17 of the 20 biggest high school gyms in the country are in Indiana. Some of them are bigger than most small college gyms and go up to as high as 9300 in capacity.

PHOG 10-08-2004 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
I'd go so far as to say Indiana HS b-ball is more unique than Texas HS football.

I think the fact that Texans think they're more passionate about HS football than everyone else in the country is just more typical Texas arrogance.

fucking Texans.

May be

irishjayhawk 10-08-2004 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
I'm not sure.... think he meant to type salad? Not that I really wanna watch that? I think that might carry a higher rating, too.

Theres a play and they show the cheerleader doind a dance and then a player gets tackled right into them. Its so fast, that the cheerleader flys into the wall.

And I honestly don't know what rotten tomatoes reviewers are thinking. It has no dialog (very good atleast) and the acting sucks. It combines every other football movie and adds the Playmaker's camera crews. Youll see what I mean.

Then again, people could like it, but the crowd i was with thought it was a great comedy, sucky football movie.

PS, ITS PREDICTABLE

BucsGirl 10-08-2004 08:24 AM

I want to see the Grudge it looks scary....

KcMizzou 10-08-2004 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kcsportsguy
And I honestly don't know what rotten tomatoes reviewers are thinking.

Rotten tomatoes is just a collection of movie reviews from all over the country. They don't actually have reviewers of their own.

I'll probably still see it on DVD, but after hearing your opinion of it... I don't think I go to the trouble of trying to see it in a theater.

redbrian 10-08-2004 08:32 AM

Cast of ‘Friday Night Lights' scores small-town goals

By ROBERT W. BUTLER

The Kansas City Star


“Friday Night Lights” unfolds in drab Odessa, Texas, where everybody's self-worth is wrapped up in the failure or success of the Permian High School Panthers football team.

Based on Buzz Bissinger's 1990 nonfiction best seller, this new film from director Peter Berg is both a sports movie and an anti-sports movie. It has plenty of hard-hitting action; the Panthers' '88 season was a roller-coaster ride of triumphs and crippling setbacks that led finally to a showdown for the state championship.

But Berg and screenwriter David Aaron Cohen are gunning for more than the usual football clichés. Yes, it's about the men who play and coach the game. But it's also about the borderline lunacy that reigns in a town where a winning gridiron squad provides the citizens with their only bragging rights. At Permian, young men realize that only triumph on the playing field will get them out of this smothering place.

Fans of the book will find the film astoundingly faithful, even to the point of eschewing the dramatic flourishes and Hollywood moments we've come to expect from the genre. “Friday Night Lights” often feels more like a documentary than a standard-issue studio release, with everything from the visuals (handheld cameras capturing the washed-out look of the Mexican sequences in “Traffic”) to the pacing and the performances suggesting that we're eavesdropping on real life.

Exhibiting a light touch with material that in clumsier hands might come off as ham-handed, Berg and his players deliver a movie that feels genuinely lived in.

While the film doesn't emphasize any one central character, three figures emerge as major players.

First, there's Gary Gaines (Billy Bob Thornton), now in his second year at Permian and just beginning to realize what it means to coach in a football-obsessed small town.

On the plus side, he earns more money than the school principal and plays in a state-of-the-art stadium (with a working oil well in the parking lot, no less). He works in a fishbowl (crowds turn out just for after-school practice); city fathers drop by Gaines' office to second-guess him; and after a loss he finds his front yard decorated with dozens of “For Sale” signs.

Movie football coaches usually come off like fire-breathing fundamentalist preachers. Thornton goes in just the opposite direction: His Gaines is perhaps the sanest person on screen. Oh, he's capable of yelling at an errant player and of giving a world-class halftime pep talk to his discouraged team, but mostly he keeps his thoughts to himself.

That's OK. Thornton is such a good actor you can tell what he's thinking without dialogue.

Lucas Black (who as a child played opposite Thornton in “Sling Blade”) is terrific as the team's quarterback, Mike Winchell. Far from being a cocky BMOC, Mike is a quiet, sensitive kid who loves the game but not the pressure and whose emotionally fragile single mom is always about two pills away from institutionalization. He's a sober young man who rarely smiles and is so naïve that he's not sure what to do when a sexually predaceous girl targets him as a trophy.

Winchell's polar opposite is Boobie Miles (Derek Luke), a running back so talented that pundits already are predicting a Heisman in his future. But with his awesome skills comes an attitude — Boobie struts and poses, seeing himself as the star of his own movie.

When challenged about slacking off on his weight training, Boobie flashes his million-dollar smile, points to his own gorgeous body, and replies: “This is God-given. All I gotta do is show up.”

Were Boobie a scholar (which he isn't; Permian's teachers apparently give him and the other players a free ride) he would know that in Greek tragedy the sin of hubris never goes unpunished.

Along the way are some solid supporting performances: Jay Hernandez as the one team member who can get out of town on his good grades and Lee Thompson Young as a bench warmer who discovers his hidden talents.

Especially telling is the relationship between Don Billingsley (Garrett Hedlund), a working-class kid, and his brutal, boozy father (country music star Tim McGraw in a solid debut). Don's old man is a sports dad from hell who played on Permian's championship team 20 years earlier and isn't above publicly punching out his son for fumbling the ball.

Heavy stuff. But Berg and Cohen also know how to deftly dish out the satire. Like the caller to the local radio sports show who has a simple explanation for why the Panthers lost a game: “They're doin' too much learnin' in that school.”

Swanman 10-08-2004 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kcsportsguy
PS, ITS PREDICTABLE

Of course it's predictable, it's based on a true story. They're not going to make a movies based on a true story where a high school team goes 6-5 and then loses by 80 in the first round of the playoffs. That's like saying "Titanic" was predictable because you knew the ship was going to crash or saying any Ben Affleck film is predictable because you knew it was going to suck.

I read the book a while back and it was a great depiction of how obsessed small towns can be with their sports programs. According to reviewers on ESPN.com, the movie scores high in that it is pretty true to the book, moreso than a lot of "true story" sports movies.

Skip Towne 10-08-2004 08:59 AM

I don't like Texans either but their football is as passionate as anyplace in the country. Their cheerleaders moms kill people over it. As for Indiana basketball, it's gone. When their hero, Bobby Knight, got banished to purgatory, they turned out the lights.

Skip Towne 10-08-2004 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BucsGirl
I want to see the Grudge it looks scary....

Hey, BucsGirl, did you find Stumppy?

donkhater 10-08-2004 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13
Indiana High School Basketball baby!... :)

It's still big but not even close to what it once was and it has nothing to do with Bobby Knight.

The morons that run the IHSAA (Indiana High School Athletic Association) fugged up big time in switching to multi-class basketball. It's been so much worse than the single class format that I have no doubt that they'd go back if they thought they could. I know of no one out here that likes the multi-class system.

Braincase 10-08-2004 09:26 AM

I'm waiting for HAVOC. Show them puppies, Anne!

irishjayhawk 10-08-2004 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou
Rotten tomatoes is just a collection of movie reviews from all over the country. They don't actually have reviewers of their own.

I'll probably still see it on DVD, but after hearing your opinion of it... I don't think I go to the trouble of trying to see it in a theater.

I know that.

Yes, it's based on a true story. How much is actually true. Remember the Titans in real life didn't win the last game. There were alot of oversights in thatmovie too. Plus did I mention the "highschoolers" don't look so "high school-ish" Boobie(yes that his name) looks like hes 25.


EDIT: By the way I will declare that I wasn't familiar with the story. Otherwise Id agree with your response about being predictable.

irishjayhawk 10-08-2004 10:05 AM

Don't get me wrong, people could like it. IMO though it sucked.

Jenson71 10-08-2004 01:02 PM

I saw it and I have no idea what I think about it.

KingPriest2 10-08-2004 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kcsportsguy
I know that.

Yes, it's based on a true story. How much is actually true. Remember the Titans in real life didn't win the last game. There were alot of oversights in thatmovie too. Plus did I mention the "highschoolers" don't look so "high school-ish" Boobie(yes that his name) looks like hes 25.


EDIT: By the way I will declare that I wasn't familiar with the story. Otherwise Id agree with your response about being predictable.


Just want to inform you that they did go undefeated that year. You are there are differences in the movie from what happened. But the team did go undefeated.

Deberg_1990 10-08-2004 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kcsportsguy
I know that.

Yes, it's based on a true story. How much is actually true. Remember the Titans in real life didn't win the last game. There were alot of oversights in thatmovie too. Plus did I mention the "highschoolers" don't look so "high school-ish" Boobie(yes that his name) looks like hes 25.


EDIT: By the way I will declare that I wasn't familiar with the story. Otherwise Id agree with your response about being predictable.

Yes.........the real team from Remember the Tiatans did win the big game....they jsut didnt do it in the fashion portrayed in the movie...the movie made it seem more heroic than it actually was.

irishjayhawk 10-08-2004 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990
Yes.........the real team from Remember the Tiatans did win the big game....they jsut didnt do it in the fashion portrayed in the movie...the movie made it seem more heroic than it actually was.

Well, my brother talked to a guy that was on the team. He said they lost. I guess he might not be telling the truth.

KingPriest, I wasn't saying the movie was totally inaccurate.

KCFANinNC 10-08-2004 04:00 PM

Are there a lot of cameos?

I know Roy Williams the Cowgirl S was a coach.

tk13 10-08-2004 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by donkhater
It's still big but not even close to what it once was and it has nothing to do with Bobby Knight.

The morons that run the IHSAA (Indiana High School Athletic Association) fugged up big time in switching to multi-class basketball. It's been so much worse than the single class format that I have no doubt that they'd go back if they thought they could. I know of no one out here that likes the multi-class system.

I don't have a problem with it, but some people just want to be stubborn and quit. The basketball is better now, the sectionals are better and more competitive. I don't know, the northern part of the state might not be as amped up about it but in the southern half I still think there's excitement over it. There was when I played, and there still is in many places. But my school was a Class A school that used to get the snot kicked out of it by bigger schools... I wasn't really against the opportunity to play against somebody else. Then again more people go to the big schools, so the majority of people are against it. People just forget about the Class A schools... that last year of one-class everybody wanted to talk up Batesville and how they were the team with "small school dreams"... what a load of crap, that's a 3A school. Over half the state had smaller enrollments than them.... it's very much a New York Yankees mentality.


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