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tk13 10-08-2004 01:40 AM

Teicher: Dalton, Chiefs hit it off
 
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...ts/9863024.htm

Dalton, Chiefs hit it off the second time around

By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star


The man who almost single-handledly shut down a key second-half Baltimore possession for the Chiefs on Monday night was originally an afterthought.

The Chiefs signed veteran defensive tackle Lional Dalton in the spring only after nobody else wanted him. His chance to make the team, then seemingly slim, appeared to shrink even more when the Chiefs drafted a player at his position in the second round, Junior Siavii.

But Dalton has rapidly gone from roster wannabe to starter to key performer. He certainly played a crucial role against the Ravens, who couldn't afford to re-sign him when he became a free agent two years ago.

“He can be very disruptive,” Baltimore coach Brian Billick said. “He looks very much like the Lional that we knew. We hated to see him go. He was a joy to be around. He loved the game and provided a specific role for us that was very important in our championship year.”

Dalton sacked Ravens quarterback Kyle Boller and was in on a tackle behind the line of scrimmage on running back Jamal Lewis on Baltimore's only offensive series of the third quarter. The Ravens' possession was sandwiched between two Chiefs scoring drives, allowing Kansas City to break a 17-17 halftime tie and take a 27-17 lead.

The Chiefs went on to win 27-24, and Dalton spent much of the night in the Baltimore backfield.

“He not only made plays, but he ruined a lot of plays that he didn't end up making,” Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil said.

It's been a while since a coach gave such compliments to Dalton. Since leaving Baltimore, where he was a key backup, his career plummeted.

Dalton, a 6-foot-1, 315-pound lineman out of Eastern Michigan, signed as a free agent two years ago with Denver after a long, hard recruiting battle between the Chiefs and Broncos. He spent a disappointing season with Denver — a year spent mostly quarreling with coach Mike Shanahan.

“When I got to Denver, I had just got married,” said Dalton, 29. “I just had a baby. Coach Shanahan was playing a lot of mind games. There were a lot of things going on. It was a stressful situation. I had a bunch of strikes on me in Denver. I was used to being around a family-oriented organization like it was in Baltimore.

“I think that's why I'm playing the way I'm playing here. I've never been on a team that wanted me to be as successful as they do here. They work with you. They take a personal interest in how you play. They allow you to just go out there and play. There's no scolding. There's just teaching.”

Fed up with the underachieving Dalton, Shanahan traded him last year to Washington. Dalton was out of Shanahan's doghouse, but his play didn't improve, and Washington let him go after the season.

The Chiefs, who remembered Dalton from his Baltimore days, were the only team to show much interest.

“We saw this in him when he left the Ravens and went to Denver, and we were in the hunt to get him,” Vermeil said. “He has never played like he played (Monday night in Baltimore).”

The Chiefs, who lacked good play at the defensive-tackle position for most of the last two seasons, can't help but wonder how much better they might have been had they won the tug-of-war over Dalton two years earlier.

Dalton can't help but wonder how his career might have been different.

“The money in Denver was good, and I couldn't turn it down,” he said. “But I wish I would have come here two years ago. I would have had a lot more success on the field. I seem to blossom in this type of environment.”

Then again, two seasons in the dumps appear to have revitalized Dalton. When he came to the Chiefs, it could have been his last chance in the NFL. He has responded by playing his best football.

“The stuff I went through, I wouldn't trade it for the world,” Dalton said. “I learned to respect the game. I realized how good I have it. If I don't treat every play like it's my last, it could be over for me like that. Then, I'd look back and wish I did things differently. I don't want that.”

|Zach| 10-08-2004 01:42 AM

Dlaton has been playing out of his damn mind. It has been a long time since I have seen an interior lineman for Chiefs just thriw bitches out fo the way like he does.

ShortRoundChief 10-08-2004 01:44 AM

It's a good story, like the guy myself.

philfree 10-08-2004 01:59 AM

When the dust clears Dalton may turn out to be the best FA pick up of the year. Pound for pound and dollar for dollar. Damit Carl :cuss:


PhilFree :arrow:
~glad we stood pat and didn't add anyone to the D~ :spock:

ARROW2 10-08-2004 03:22 AM

But the Chiefs didn't upgrade their talent this off season.......(rolls eyes). I am beyond tired of the so-called analysts repeating this over and over...

teedubya 10-08-2004 03:27 AM

well, Dalton was like a blip on the Radar... he didnt seem like a good pickup, now did he?

All in all, I kinna like da' Raven cast-offs. Turns out well for KC, innit?

royr17 10-08-2004 04:34 AM

I've been impressed with the way Dalton has been playing i was all for starting Siavii instead of Dalton but im glad they started Dalton cause he has been looking damn good and causing all kinds of havoc in the backfield.

Nice job in picking up Dalton DV & Company. :thumb:

Also on a other note i am declaring tk13 the champ at posting articles that came from the star on the planet.

Way to go tk, and keep us inform on all the great chiefs news, its also good to beat you to a article but that aint gonna happen very much cause you are too quick of catching them as soon as they come out, but keep them up.

tk13 10-08-2004 04:51 AM

Haha... it's no big deal, keg in kc and FloridaChief and many others do it too, I don't know why everyone gives me all the credit. It's not like I'm trying to be some newshound. I read a lot of articles and if I come across something that's Chiefs related that hasn't been posted, I post it here so everybody else can read it too... :)

ARROW2 10-08-2004 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Chi3fs
well, Dalton was like a blip on the Radar... he didnt seem like a good pickup, now did he?

All in all, I kinna like da' Raven cast-offs. Turns out well for KC, innit?





The point is the pundits said we didn't add ANYTHING. I don't care what it seemed like. That was just perception.

ARROW2 10-08-2004 05:12 AM

Junior Siavii, Jared Allen, Benny Sapp (nice sack in the fourth quarter). But we didn't address the D AT ALL according to the idiots on TV. Not to mention young players like Wilkerson and Mitchell who get more playing time this year. The so-called experts need to do their homework before they get on television spouting BS.

Chieficus 10-08-2004 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree
When the dust clears Dalton may turn out to be the best FA pick up of the year. Pound for pound and dollar for dollar. Damit Carl :cuss:


PhilFree :arrow:
~glad we stood pat and didn't add anyone to the D~ :spock:

And to think, we could have shelled out all that money for Winstorm...Wistrim...Strom Thurmond...whatever the heck that guy's name was...

:jester:

1adam1238 10-08-2004 05:30 AM

I agree, Dalton has shown to be the silver lining in this years pick ups. I have been impressed with his play and when he is in, we actually penetrate the offensive line........thats a huge difference from the past two years.

Skip Towne 10-08-2004 06:13 AM

I'm still waiting to hear Taco's take on this article. I may have to wait awhile 'cause he may not want to talk about "his new friend".

teedubya 10-08-2004 06:34 AM

the acquisition and play of Lionel Dalton is the only thing holding up the launch of www.firecarlpeterson.com

Chiefnj 10-08-2004 07:14 AM

It was a good cheap signing by Peterson. So far, he is the best lineman on the Chiefs. I'm not sure yet if that's a testimony to Dalton's new work ethic, a statement about the general lack of talent on the KC line or a combination of both.

I hope he continues to play as he has been, but it's a long season. I remember how happy everyone was after Holliday's first game as a Chief. A lot can change quickly.

KCTitus 10-08-2004 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj
It was a good cheap signing by Peterson. So far, he is the best lineman on the Chiefs. I'm not sure yet if that's a testimony to Dalton's new work ethic, a statement about the general lack of talent on the KC line or a combination of both.

Or maybe it's a statement on DV's ability to get the best out of his players.

We can go The Lexicon route if we really need to though.

Chiefnj 10-08-2004 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTitus
Or maybe it's a statement on DV's ability to get the best out of his players.

I could be. I wonder what Downing, Freeman and Sharpe think about it?

KCTitus 10-08-2004 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj
I could be. I wonder what Downing, Freeman and Sharpe think about it?

Dunno...maybe we should ask Hall, Holmes, Kennison, Warfield, Fujita, or Allen?

This game is allways fun...

nmt1 10-08-2004 07:47 AM

This is all just spin from Bob Moore. Lionel Dalton hasn't done anything more than mediocre. The Chiefs only signed him to fill seats.

jcl-kcfan2 10-08-2004 08:08 AM

I see him being very good for the Chiefs now, but I think it's a good thing the Broncos got him instead of us before.
IMO, It gave him the impetus to try harder now and more appreciation for how our organization is run then he would've had.

Oh yeah, I bet he likes Gunther more than he would've liked Robinson.

dilligaf 10-08-2004 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj
It was a good cheap signing by Peterson. So far, he is the best lineman on the Chiefs. I'm not sure yet if that's a testimony to Dalton's new work ethic, a statement about the general lack of talent on the KC line or a combination of both.

I hope he continues to play as he has been, but it's a long season. I remember how happy everyone was after Holliday's first game as a Chief. A lot can change quickly.

You aint kidding.

BigRedChief 10-08-2004 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree
When the dust clears Dalton may turn out to be the best FA pick up of the year. Pound for pound and dollar for dollar. Damit Carl :cuss:


PhilFree :arrow:
~glad we stood pat and didn't add anyone to the D~ :spock:

Even King Carl gets lucky sometimes. Its the law if averages rule you can't be wrong every time about a player. Lest we forget that the first year that DV and Carl were here they were going to build the offese around Tony Richardson and felt that Priest was a 3rd down back they could use as Tony's backup. Talk about misjudging talent! :shake:

nmt1 10-08-2004 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief
Even King Carl gets lucky sometimes. Its the law if averages rule you can't be wrong every time about a player. Lest we forget that the first year that DV and Carl were here they were going to build the offese around Tony Richardson and felt that Priest was a 3rd down back they could use as Tony's backup. Talk about misjudging talent! :shake:

I'm sure you knew better.

Hel'n 10-08-2004 10:27 AM

Great article! Very inspirational!

|Zach| 10-08-2004 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief
Even King Carl gets lucky sometimes.

ROFL Folks rip on him when a bad move is made and call him lucky when something goes right.

Nice.

KCTitus 10-08-2004 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZachKC
ROFL Folks rip on him when a bad move is made and call him lucky when something goes right.

Nice.

The cornerstone of The Lexicon, my friend.

KCTitus 10-08-2004 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief
Lest we forget that the first year that DV and Carl were here they were going to build the offese around Tony Richardson and felt that Priest was a 3rd down back they could use as Tony's backup. Talk about misjudging talent! :shake:

It appears you have forgotten, this not only false, but rather was the figment of this BB's imagination.

BigRedChief 10-08-2004 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTitus
It appears you have forgotten, this not only false, but rather was the figment of this BB's imagination.

Hey if Thwitlock says it in the paper it has to be true! :hmmm:

BigRedChief 10-08-2004 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZachKC
ROFL Folks rip on him when a bad move is made and call him lucky when something goes right.

Nice.

I'm a full time ripper on King Carl. I was ripping him since the last time he stood pat after a 13- 3 season. I'm not bashing King Carl for a 0-3 start but for 16 years of sub standard bad draft picks and free agent pick ups.

And yes that after 16 years of picking in the draft I think I could have (just as you could have) at least found one starting WR, QB or RB.

|Zach| 10-08-2004 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief
I'm a full time ripper on King Carl. I was ripping him since the last time he stood pat after a 13- 3 season. I'm not bashing King Carl for a 0-3 start but for 16 years of sub standard bad draft picks and free agent pick ups.

And yes that after 16 years of picking in the draft I think I could have (just as you could have) at least found one starting WR, QB or RB.

So basically you are voiding any objectivity in your football takes in relation to Peterson?

KCTitus 10-08-2004 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief
IAnd yes that after 16 years of picking in the draft I think I could have (just as you could have) at least found one starting WR, QB or RB.

LOL!

Hydrae 10-08-2004 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13
Haha... it's no big deal, keg in kc and FloridaChief and many others do it too, I don't know why everyone gives me all the credit. It's not like I'm trying to be some newshound. I read a lot of articles and if I come across something that's Chiefs related that hasn't been posted, I post it here so everybody else can read it too... :)


And we all appreciate your efforts! :thumb:

whoman69 10-08-2004 11:18 AM

IMO we should just cut Holliday and put Browning in at DE, resign Downing as depth at DT. Holliday will be a big cap hit next year anyway. May as well get rid of him now when we have the cap room to split it. Problem is he has to come back from injury first or he will become another player sitting on our cap space for being injured.

BigRedChief 10-08-2004 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZachKC
So basically you are voiding any objectivity in your football takes in relation to Peterson?

After 16 years of observing King Carls job performance I have formed an opinion on how he has performed his dutiies as care taker of my team. I was here before him. I'll be here after him.
Thanks Carl for the service in marketing and making the Chiefs game day experience great again....but don't let the door hit you on the way out.

shakesthecat 10-08-2004 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief
After 16 years of observing King Carls job performance I have formed an opinion on how he has performed his dutiies as care taker of my team. I was here before him. I'll be here after him.
Thanks Carl for the service in marketing and making the Chiefs game day experience great again....but don't let the door hit you on the way out.


Holy shit!

Lamar Hunt, ladies and gentlemen........

BigRedChief 10-08-2004 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shakesthecat
Holy shit!

Lamar Hunt, ladies and gentlemen........

FU! :mad:
My ass is out in the Arrowhead cold, rain and ice.

I'm in as much mental angish as any player or Lamar when we lose.

Been a fan since the Lenny Cool days and remained a fan during the horrible 80's.

I give $1,800 a year for season tickets.

I'd say that gives me some metaphorical ownership in the team.

nmt1 10-08-2004 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief
I'm in as much mental angish as any player or Lamar when we lose.

This is a bit of a stretch.

shakesthecat 10-08-2004 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief
FU! :mad:
My ass is out in the Arrowhead cold, rain and ice.

I'm in as much mental angish as any player or Lamar when we lose.

Been a fan since the Lenny Cool days and remained a fan during the horrible 80's.

I give $1,800 a year for season tickets.

I'd say that gives me some metaphorical ownership in the team.


:wayne:
Wow, you're the biggest Chiefs fan in the whole wide world.
You should get a ribbon or something.

BigRedChief 10-08-2004 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmt1
This is a bit of a stretch.

okay so ya caught me....:harumph:

but I'm still in a very deep hurt to the core of your soul type pain every time some douchbag on here brings up that idiot kicker who we all wish had been liquored up and not shown up that playoff game..:banghead:

Gaz 10-08-2004 12:16 PM

A couple good moves...
 

Dalton has been a pleasant surprise at DT, as has Browning at DE. Throw in the young guys and you might have the makings of a good DL before too long.

xoxo~
Gaz
Sees Gunther’s Defense coming together.

BigRedChief 10-08-2004 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shakesthecat
:wayne:
Wow, you're the biggest Chiefs fan in the whole wide world.
You should get a ribbon or something.

I'm keeping my metaphorical owenership of the team... I'd be careful if I was you...I got no problem with going back to prison...:harumph:

shakesthecat 10-08-2004 12:23 PM

Lighten up , Francis.

BigRedChief 10-08-2004 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shakesthecat
Lighten up , Francis.

I think that I did lighten up...Do you need a little smiley to know when someone is joking?

shakesthecat 10-08-2004 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief
I think that I did lighten up...Do you need a little smiley to know when someone is joking?

Sorry, my bad.

Though the response I was hoping for was, "You just made the list!"

:thumb:

BigRedChief 10-08-2004 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shakesthecat
Sorry, my bad.

Though the response I was hoping for was, "You just made the list!"

:thumb:

What list?

Grocery list?
Hit list?
Top Ten list?

nmt1 10-08-2004 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief
What list?

Grocery list?
Hit list?
Top Ten list?

It's a quote from Summer School, I believe. Classic film.

KCTitus 10-08-2004 12:53 PM

Stripes! nmt1...that's sad you missed that one.

shakesthecat 10-08-2004 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief
What list?

Grocery list?
Hit list?
Top Ten list?


Nah, it's one of his(Francis) lines in the movie, Stripes.


Psycho : The name's Francis Sawyer, but everybody calls me Psycho. Any of you guys call me Francis, and I'll kill you.
Leon : Ooooooh.
Psycho : You just made the list, buddy.

nmt1 10-08-2004 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTitus
Stripes! nmt1...that's sad you missed that one.

Doh! I got them mixed up because there is actually a similar situation in both movies.

alanm 10-08-2004 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69
IMO we should just cut Holliday and put Browning in at DE, resign Downing as depth at DT. Holliday will be a big cap hit next year anyway. May as well get rid of him now when we have the cap room to split it. Problem is he has to come back from injury first or he will become another player sitting on our cap space for being injured.

Holliday was in the game the other night. Just wanted to point that out in case everybody missed him. :)

alanm 10-08-2004 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmt1
It's a quote from Summer School, I believe. Classic film.

It's a quote from Stripes. Psycho (Francis) said it to Bill Murray.

Tinlar 10-08-2004 01:50 PM

He's done well in three out of 4 games. Crow for me please, yes cold with raw bacon.


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