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DenverChief 10-09-2004 10:45 PM

Classmates Sue Over 'Dazed and Confused'
 
:spock: I had no idea these were real guys

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SANTA FE, N.M. - Three former high school classmates of "Dazed and Confused" director Richard Linklater have filed a lawsuit claiming they have suffered embarrassment and ridicule because of characters based on them in the movie.



The men — Bobby Wooderson, Andy Slater and Richard "Pink" Floyd — say Linklater did not get their permission before creating three characters in the 1993 cult classic sharing their surnames and likenesses. The suit was filed Thursday in Santa Fe against Universal Studios, which released the film.

The movie follows the drug- and alcohol-fueled hijinks of teenagers on the last day of school in May 1976. The men said the negative characterizations in the film have made their lives miserable and caused their neighbors to think poorly of them.

"We had fun in high school, but there is nothing true about that movie. Yet, I am having to deal with it all the time," said Floyd, who works at a car dealership in Huntsville, Texas, where the men went to high school.

Ernest Freeman, one of the plaintiffs' attorneys, said Slater has also had problems because people make assumptions that he takes illegal drugs.

Slater runs a construction and remodeling company and Wooderson works in the technology sector. Both men also still live in Huntsville. Linklater's agent did not immediately return a message Saturday seeking comment.

The suit was filed in New Mexico because it has a longer statute of limitations than other states for claims of defamation and false light, attorneys said.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...nfused_lawsuit

Rausch 10-09-2004 10:48 PM

Using their real names was moronic...

siberian khatru 10-09-2004 10:56 PM

God, I love that movie.

"That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age."

Pitt Gorilla 10-09-2004 11:00 PM

complete BS: These guys are probably going around "Hey, you know, I'm that guy in D & C. No, not the actor, the real guy. You see..." I'm guessing less than one percent of the population would make the connection at all, despite it being a great, cult classic...

|Zach| 10-09-2004 11:06 PM

What a fantastic movie.

What a bad move using their real names.

teedubya 10-09-2004 11:15 PM

Damn, so they waited 11 years to file a lawsuit?

KC Jones 10-09-2004 11:18 PM

They just want some money.

Frazod 10-09-2004 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ali Chi3fs
Damn, so they waited 11 years to file a lawsuit?

Bullshit lawsuits ain't my specialty, but I would think that some sort of statute of limitations would have run on this. Perhaps not.

In any event, I hope they lose. What assclowns. :shake:

Miles 10-09-2004 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod
Bullshit lawsuits ain't my specialty, but I would think that some sort of statute of limitations would have run on this. Perhaps not.

In any event, I hope they lose. What assclowns. :shake:

They said this in the article: "The suit was filed in New Mexico because it has a longer statute of limitations than other states for claims of defamation and false light, attorneys said"

I still find it hard to believe the SOL didnt run even in New Mexico, and thats a really long ass time from when the movie was made. Odd...

KcMizzou 10-10-2004 12:13 AM

What a load of crap.

One of my favorite movies, btw.

MadMax 10-10-2004 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Jones
They just want some money.


Damn, me too, didn't they make a movie about a " chubby " kid who got picked on some years ago??? LOL :shake:

Fairplay 10-10-2004 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou
What a load of crap.

One of my favorite movies, btw.



Agreed. Lawsuit nation. :shake:

Phobia 10-10-2004 02:24 AM

Hopefully New Mexico will throw them out on their tails. Knowing our legal system, though - they'll probably all become millionares.

Has it really been that long since D&C was released?

DenverChief 10-10-2004 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
Hopefully New Mexico will throw them out on their tails. Knowing our legal system, though - they'll probably all become millionares.

Has it really been that long since D&C was released?

1994-95ish

Fairplay 10-10-2004 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
Hopefully New Mexico will throw them out on their tails. Knowing our legal system, though - they'll probably all become millionares.

Has it really been that long since D&C was released?



1993.

Fairplay 10-10-2004 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
Hopefully New Mexico will throw them out on their tails. Knowing our legal system, though - they'll probably all become millionares.

Has it really been that long since D&C was released?



1993.

Ultra Peanut 10-10-2004 02:42 AM

The timing of this is almost as reeruned as NWA being successfully sued last month for using a two-second Funkadelic sample in a song made back in 1990.

alpha_omega 10-10-2004 07:21 AM

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Ernest Freeman, one of the plaintiffs' attorneys, said Slater has also had problems because people make assumptions that he takes illegal drugs.

"He'd be alot cooler if he did"

gblowfish 10-10-2004 07:26 AM

If they win they'll probably spend the money on drugs, alcohol and teenaged girls.

CosmicPal 10-10-2004 07:51 AM

Let's see, you're embarrassed by the local exposure- so much so- that even after 11 years, you feel it warrants NATIONAL exposure which only results in further depth of the wounds?

BS!

You're after the money. Fuggin asshats.

What really ticks me off- is that Dazed & Confused is a classic film...IMHO- one of the best. It certainly has its' share of great one-liners.

CosmicPal 10-10-2004 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by alpha_omega
"He'd be alot cooler if he did"

ROFL

Every time I hear that line, I just crack up...you get a rep!

Slayer Diablo 10-10-2004 08:08 AM

It probably started out with one guy who noticed his name in the movie and he said, "Ya know, once I find the two other 'real' guys from this movie, we can file a lawsuit"....what a jackass.

CosmicPal 10-10-2004 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by St. Loser Diablo
It probably started out with one guy who noticed his name in the movie and he said, "Ya know, once I find the two other 'real' guys from this movie, we can file a lawsuit"....what a jackass.

I very much doubt that....

I'm sure that sometime during the developmental stages of the script or when the rights to the screenplay was purchased by a movie studio- Richard approached his old high school chums and stated he'd been writing a movie about their high school days.

Response from one of the guys: "It'd be cool if you did."

I bet you anything, these guys knew before the movie ever hit the theaters and that they were going to be immortalized on the screen...I'm sure they must have thought it was the kewlest thing then.

And, I'm sure Richard got them to sign a waiver of some sort to release their true names. No writer in this world would ever attempt to use another's real identity without coming up a psuedo moniker in order to save face.

Baby Lee 10-10-2004 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicPal
I very much doubt that....

I'm sure that sometime during the developmental stages of the script or when the rights to the screenplay was purchased by a movie studio- Richard approached his old high school chums and stated he'd been writing a movie about their high school days.

Response from one of the guys: "It'd be cool if you did."

I bet you anything, these guys knew before the movie ever hit the theaters and that they were going to be immortalized on the screen...I'm sure they must have thought it was the kewlest thing then.

And, I'm sure Richard got them to sign a waiver of some sort to release their true names. No writer in this world would ever attempt to use another's real identity without coming up a psuedo moniker in order to save face.

Geez, you throw in some of Cosmic's stellar supposition, and the case really goes to shit!

Why I bet they signed a blood oath with the future director when they were kids to "never ever sue. . . especially never ever in New Mexico."

Seems just as probable that Linklater hated these guys in HS and meant to caricature them in the movie, then forgot to change their names to something fictional.

Fairplay 10-10-2004 09:26 AM

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I thought that kid who played Mitch Kramer did an horrendous job of acting.

Hes the kid in the middle.

CosmicPal 10-10-2004 09:28 AM

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Seems just as probable that Linklater hated these guys in HS and meant to caricature them in the movie, then forgot to change their names to something fictional.
Yea, I'm sure that's what happened. :shake:

Slayer Diablo 10-10-2004 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay
I thought that kid who played Mitch Kramer did an horrendous job of acting.

Hes the kid in the middle.

He wasn't that bad of an actor...

Brock 10-10-2004 10:06 AM

Wow, those guys were pretty cool in the movie. I guess it truly was fictional.

Baby Lee 10-10-2004 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicPal
Yea, I'm sure that's what happened. :shake:

What makes you sure you have any idea WHAT happened? I'm just talking likelihoods here.

You say no director would make a movie without getting a release for the names used. OTOH, that holds as much truth as 'nobody' would sue if they had signed a release.

The case is stupid enough on the facts, why the need to suppose all this other crap?

Braincase 10-10-2004 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay
I thought that kid who played Mitch Kramer did an horrendous job of acting.

Hes the kid in the middle.

I must've done too many drugs. I see two kids in the middle.

CosmicPal 10-10-2004 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee
What makes you sure you have any idea WHAT happened? I'm just talking likelihoods here.

You say no director would make a movie without getting a release for the names used. OTOH, that holds as much truth as 'nobody' would sue if they had signed a release.

The case is stupid enough on the facts, why the need to suppose all this other crap?

WTF is your gig, Baby Lee?

I am doing nothing but merely pointing out the hypothetical in that I find it rather disturbing Richard Linklater would develop a script with factual names in the characters without at first consulting with the real people in the first place.

Writers who leave the true identity of an autobiograhpical story without the consent of the character in writing- is asking for a lot of trouble. Defamation is a serious business, and all writers, agents, directors, and producers know that....

I think the "guys" feel like they are a reason behind the success of the film, and feel like they deserve a piece of that pie....so, after all these years, they finally think they might have something. Richard makes a movie about them and goes on to be a big timer in Hollywood, while the rest of them are stuck in small town Texas selling cars and fixing computers.

I'm just saying- writers know better than to publish something of an autobiographical nature without the consent of the characters in question.

If Richard Linklater failed to get their consent before selling the script to a producer- then he's one dumbazz screenwriter....I doubt that he is.

Skip Towne 10-10-2004 11:26 AM

You guys will treat me a lot better once I get that money.

Baby Lee 10-10-2004 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicPal
WTF is your gig, Baby Lee?

I am doing nothing but merely pointing out the hypothetical in that I find it rather disturbing Richard Linklater would develop a script with factual names in the characters without at first consulting with the real people in the first place.

Writers who leave the true identity of an autobiograhpical story without the consent of the character in writing- is asking for a lot of trouble. Defamation is a serious business, and all writers, agents, directors, and producers know that....

I think the "guys" feel like they are a reason behind the success of the film, and feel like they deserve a piece of that pie....so, after all these years, they finally think they might have something. Richard makes a movie about them and goes on to be a big timer in Hollywood, while the rest of them are stuck in small town Texas selling cars and fixing computers.

I'm just saying- writers know better than to publish something of an autobiographical nature without the consent of the characters in question.

If Richard Linklater failed to get their consent before selling the script to a producer- then he's one dumbazz screenwriter....I doubt that he is.

I'm not trying to start a fight, but the very things you think "well he certainly wouldn't do that" is what leads to these sorts of lawsuits.

I mean, you conjure this scenario where the guys now suing told him "it'd be cool" if he used their likeness and names, and signed a waiver releasing to Rick their names.

But "surely that's how it must've happened" is not evidence.


I'd analogize it to Nejah Davenport laying cable in that girl's closet, and me coming on here an saying "well he'd have to be stupid to do that. The girl probably told him it was OK, that it was a toilet that just looked a lot like a closet."

CosmicPal 10-10-2004 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee
But "surely that's how it must've happened" is not evidence.

Apparently, you do not understand the word- hypothetical.

Let me help you out here: hy-po-theth-i-cal. adj
1. assumed by hypothesis. 2. presumed to exist.

I hypothesize that Linklater wouldn't be dumb enough to use real names of real people in a real film without their prior consent...That's all I'm saying....if he did, I think we'd both agree he's a dumbazz.

BigChiefFan 10-10-2004 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee
Geez, you throw in some of Cosmic's stellar supposition, and the case really goes to shit!

Why I bet they signed a blood oath with the future director when they were kids to "never ever sue. . . especially never ever in New Mexico."

Seems just as probable that Linklater hated these guys in HS and meant to caricature them in the movie, then forgot to change their names to something fictional.

I don't think it's anymore than just common sense to draw the conclusion Cosmic is drawing. The guy that wrote the story afterall is a professional. This is a frivalous lawsuit and it's a shame some can't recognize that.

Baby Lee 10-10-2004 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicPal
Apparently, you do not understand the word- hypothetical.

Let me help you out here: hy-po-theth-i-cal. adj
1. assumed by hypothesis. 2. presumed to exist.

I hypothesize that Linklater wouldn't be dumb enough to use real names of real people in a real film without their prior consent...That's all I'm saying....if he did, I think we'd both agree he's a dumbazz.

If all you are doing is hypothesizing, why go to the trouble of rolling your eyes at my speculation?
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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan
I don't think it's anymore than just common sense to draw the conclusion Cosmic is drawing. The guy that wrote the story afterall is a professional. This is a frivalous lawsuit and it's a shame some can't recognize that.

Where did I say this wasn't frivalous [sp]? My point is, this already frivolous. Cosmic's additional speculation is unnecessary and stated with undue certainty. Show me a release and I'll agree. But to say "this is a smart guy, he probably has a release" when there is no evidence that is the case, and rolling your eyes when someone posits the possibility that there is no release is stupid.

What about, as I hypothesized earlier the posit that the girl in whose closet Davenport took his poo gave him permission? I mean, Davenport's a smart guy. Certainly he wouldn't poo somehwere without permission.

I mean, it's just a hypothesis.

I guess my central point is, hypotheses are fine, so long as you realize a hypothesis where you START your search for evidence in support. It's not evidence in itself, no matter how reasonable you think the hypothesis is.

WilliamTheIrish 10-10-2004 01:13 PM

I haven't seen a jettio post since this became public knowlege....

Inspector 10-10-2004 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BrainCase
I must've done too many drugs. I see two kids in the middle.


Heck, I'm seeing six...




.....gonna go take another spoonful of cough syrup....


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