DV quote on McCleon
 

VERMEIL: “I don’t know if there will be any personnel changes. I looked at the tape and you point to Dexter McCleon. I trust him and believe him and know he can play. I know he got tested over and over again and got beat a couple of times. He got beat in the first quarter on a perfectly executed play that I wish we would make ourselves and for a touchdown. That’s not unusual for a Jimmy Smith to do that. It’s a little unusual for a second year quarterback to do it so efficiently. We have to evaluate if it’s a continual pattern or just great execution.”

I don't get it. I understand standing by your players. DV loyalty and all that but....He's been burned so many times...:banghead:
I just don't think they get it at 1 Arrowhead drive :shake:

You want a translation? Here it is:

"Dexter has sucked this year, and we don't know why. He overachieved last year and we'd like to wait this out and see if it's a funk or if he just blows Kong-Schlong. He probably blows Kong-schlong, but to be honest, I don't think we've got anyone we can stick in there right now who'll do that much better. F**k..."

One more loss and its over with....they need to start Bartee or Battle.......maybe they will be better....maybe not..but they need to give those kids a chance to show what they got if our season is over....

Here's the thing. I think Bartee or Battle will get burnt a few times as well. But at least they can tackle, and they have the physical tools, so they might actually turn out to make a few plays.

I had a feeling that is what DV would say before I opened the thread. got beat a couple of times my ass....

Exactly...

WTF?? I dont get it?

Me either...

That picture frightens me though......im not sure if ill be able to sleep peacefully tonight....

Welll we all want to know how did you sleep?

Hmm...
 

This quote form and, and his standing by Lawrence Phillips for so long when he was the Rams coach are just a couple of reasons why I question Dick's credibility, and his talent evaluation.

It seems that he will vacilate when discussing a player he seems to personally like if that player's talent is questionable, or his character is flawed.

But a player that he has no love for, is one that he will not hesitate to denigrate.

It's obvious that McPassOn is just terrible, but Dick likes him, so in Dick's eyes he's just been beaten a couple of times.

I'll bet McPassOn really loves Dick.

:clap::clap::clap:

Vermeil's right on the Jimmy Smith play. It was a perfect pass and a great catch. A taller DB might have been able to defend it, but it was good play by Jax.

But that play isn't the one that bothers me. It's the play where they scored late in the fourth. McReception cannot defend a fade to the corner. They ran the exact same play on the conversion and it was just as easy for them. Any play that takes advantage of McReception's height has been effective this year.

Frankly, I'm getting tired of Vermeil standing by his boys. Someone needs to light a fire under these guys asses, and a tear and a pat on the ass isn't going to do it.

McReception has played poorly enough that Bartee should at least be getting some time as #2 DB. Maybe he's no better, but I think Dexter's play has at least given the coaches an excuse to find out.

At least Bartee or Battle (or Sapp) have the potential to get better with PT. Let's face it, Dexter ain't getting any better. Too short and too old.

I would actually like to see them start Sapp over Battle and Bartee. He's the only guy in the secondary besides Wesley, who can blitz. He also seems to tackle well and he made some nice bumps on wr's in the Jax game.

The only game that Gun really got involved in defensively when he was the HC was the Ram game.
I thought that Bar Tee played really well in that game.
He was physical in coverage, and he blitzed really well on a couple of plays.

In Gun's scheme, if he remains aggressive, I really believe that Bar Tee has a chance to become a pretty good corner.

But in the big picture of things, I don't care if they just pick up someone off the street.
Anyone has to be better than McPassOn.

I thought Bartee looked ok in the Rams game as well. However, the only corner Gun ever blitzes is, Sapp, and I think it's because the guy plays so aggressively. Sapp made some nice plays at the line of scrimmage in the Jax game. I think he deserves more playing time.

Bartee has already had his chances, I believe if they put him in at #2 CB, it'll be the same thing we've seen from Bartee throughout his NFL career.

I totally agree.

Guys like Dexter get a free pass, but guys like Johnson get publically humiliated in the media.

So DV is CRAZY on McLeon but right on about Larry Johnson.

:thumb: nice witty comment. Rep

:clap:

IMO, both Bar Tee and Warfield were 'developmentaly disabled', to coin a phrase, by the passive schemes utilized by, first, Maty's little brother, and then by Spinner.

They were drafted because of their physicality, then used in systems that didn't take advantage that said physicality.

We've seen the improvement in Warfield's in Gun's scheme.
Last season it was his head that everyone was calling for.

I think that Bar Tee benefits the same way.

and the difference between that and playing McPeon is......?????

Ba-dump-bump...
 

oh. wha?

How about some Consistency dick.............?

"Dexter has been suking baows........He needs to take the diapers off and cover his damn man like a condom or his arse is going to the nickle and bartee or Sapp is going to get a shot"

Bartee was sent on blitzes several times. On one particular play Harlan noted (and they replayed) how obvious it was and how easily Leftwich was able to hit the hot receiver.

Several times? I thought he sent him once? Bartee is so horrible at disguising the blitz.

Isn't it Gunther Cunningham's decision to have Dexter McCleon in there instead of Dick Vermeils? What the hell does Vermeil know about defense? Seriously!

He also misjudged Tony Banks talent bank in 1997 and 1998 seasons....sticking by that garbage QB damn near got him thrown out of St Louie..

Disguising blitz's is about execution, timing and discipline.
Shouldn't be a surprise that a player that has been injured isn't up to speed in those areas yet.

But, in watching the Chiefs, almost everyone on that D telegraphs their blitz.