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Hammock Parties 11-15-2004 11:34 PM

Jason Witten will break all of Tony Gonzalez' records
 
This kid is only 22 and he is already as good as as Tony was in his third year.

Throw in the fact that he is getting it done with not a single premier offensive player around him, and you can see how good he is. His QB is Vinny Testaverde for crying out loud! Eddie George is scaring no one!

You heard it here first.

Delano 11-15-2004 11:36 PM

I havn't had the chance to see Gates from SD, but I've heard he's the next super TE.

HolmeZz 11-15-2004 11:36 PM

Shut up.

Hammock Parties 11-15-2004 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delano
I havn't had the chance to see Gates from SD, but I've heard he's the next super TE.

Gates is a little older. Witten's age is the primary reason for my prediction.

The Bad Guy 11-16-2004 12:04 AM

Tight ends are beginning to stockpile themselves.

Witten, Gates, Eric Johnson are all emerging stars.

Gonzalez is spectacular, but his time alone in the spotlight is coming to an end.

Hammock Parties 11-16-2004 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
Tight ends are beginning to stockpile themselves.

Witten, Gates, Eric Johnson are all emerging stars.

Gonzalez is spectacular, but his time alone in the spotlight is coming to an end.

I think Tony will still remain the best TE for at least 4-5 more years. It amuses me to no end to see some hot new young TE every year and everyone thinks he's going to replace Tony G.

No one is talking about Shockey now that Gates is here. And Heap is hurt.

Sure-Oz 11-16-2004 12:07 AM

I still think Gonzo is the best in the game right now when fully healthy. I am curious to see Gates though.

The Bad Guy 11-16-2004 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserName
I think Tony will still remain the best TE for at least 4-5 more years. It amuses me to no end to see some hot new young TE every year and everyone thinks he's going to replace Tony G.

No one is talking about Shockey now that Gates is here. And Heap is hurt.

He's still the best, but there are players at the position producing and that is going to take some of the attention away from him is all I'm saying.

Sure-Oz 11-16-2004 12:09 AM

The media acts as if Tony has retired already.

Phobia 11-16-2004 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz
The media acts as if Tony has retired already.

Gonzo isn't featured like he should be. He's good for 2 or 3 great games a year. That's Al Saunders fault. Gonzo should have 10 touches per game. Minimum.

Miles 11-16-2004 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
Gonzo isn't featured like he should be. He's good for 2 or 3 great games a year. That's Al Saunders fault. Gonzo should have 10 touches per game. Minimum.

I competly agree. The ability is there but its not being utilized. After Priest he should clearly be the second most involved in our offense...but for some reason he is not.

Hammock Parties 11-16-2004 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
Gonzo isn't featured like he should be. He's good for 2 or 3 great games a year. That's Al Saunders fault. Gonzo should have 10 touches per game. Minimum.

I have to disagree. Maybe in the past but this year he is on pace to pretty much equal his best season as a Chief.

Plus the year he got 1,203 yards we didn't run the ball very much at all.

RealSNR 11-16-2004 12:30 AM

We also heard it here first when Taco said that Vick would win Dan Reeves a Super Bowl before all is said and done.

RealSNR 11-16-2004 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
Gonzo isn't featured like he should be. He's good for 2 or 3 great games a year. That's Al Saunders fault. Gonzo should have 10 touches per game. Minimum.

I just don't want Al to get cute. Bad stuff happens when Al gets cute.

Phobia 11-16-2004 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserName
I have to disagree. Maybe in the past but this year he is on pace to pretty much equal his best season as a Chief.

Plus the year he got 1,203 yards we didn't run the ball very much at all.

I'm not talking about 1,203 yards. I'm talking about 10 touches per game. Get Gonzo the ball 10 times. Hell, let him throw it for all I care. I just want the guy to touch the ball 10 times. He and Priest are our offense. At least give him half the touches Priest gets.

macdizzle 11-16-2004 02:14 AM

what the hell are you guys smoking? touchdown tony is still the best in tight end in the nfl. hands down

Demonpenz 11-16-2004 02:35 AM

TG is only half as good as gates

Bane 11-16-2004 06:38 AM

The start of this thread is a perfect example of why you should never **** your own mother!****ing idiot.

Red Dawg 11-16-2004 07:16 AM

Yeah, right

the Talking Can 11-16-2004 07:22 AM

Tony Gonzalez is the next Jason Dunn

morphius 11-16-2004 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserName
I have to disagree. Maybe in the past but this year he is on pace to pretty much equal his best season as a Chief.

Plus the year he got 1,203 yards we didn't run the ball very much at all.

But he has been left out of entire half's of football games this year, we don't even try to get him the ball. Some may be due to coverage, but if you can could get him involved early it has to open up the rest of the offense more.

Lzen 11-16-2004 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz
TG is only half as good as gates

ROFL :bong:

Brock 11-16-2004 08:16 AM

Still Shannon Sharpe's records as far as I know.

jspchief 11-16-2004 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserName
It amuses me to no end to see some hot new young TE every year and everyone thinks he's going to replace Tony G.

Says the guy that started a thread about Gonzo being replaced.:rolleyes::shake::rolleyes:

What are you on?

e_train69 11-16-2004 09:14 AM

Just wait until Witten, Gates, etc. etc. etc..... start being gameplanned for, like teams do for Gonzo. These young guys are relatively unknowns right now and don't draw the attention. They will start drawing the attention soon, and if they still put up the numbers that Tony does, then we can talk.

ChiefsCountry 11-16-2004 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macdizzle
what the hell are you guys smoking? touchdown tony is still the best in tight end in the nfl. hands down

Whatever, Kellen "I'm a F***ing solider" Winslow is the greatest tight end ever to step on this planet. ROFL

Megbert 11-16-2004 09:36 AM

During the MNF broadcast someone was quoted as saying "this young TE is the next Shockey" So I was thinking "he's the next overhyped oft injured TE in the league?" That's gotta suck for him.

FAX 11-16-2004 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e_train69
Just wait until Witten, Gates, etc. etc. etc..... start being gameplanned for, like teams do for Gonzo. These young guys are relatively unknowns right now and don't draw the attention. They will start drawing the attention soon, and if they still put up the numbers that Tony does, then we can talk.

Word, Mr. e_train69. Word.

FAX

Logical 11-16-2004 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry
Whatever, Kellen "I'm a F***ing solider" Winslow is the greatest tight end ever to step on this planet. ROFL

Actually he is, KW Jr. is the one you have a problem with.

Hammock Parties 11-16-2004 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief
Says the guy that started a thread about Gonzo being replaced.:rolleyes::shake::rolleyes:

What are you on?

Nowhere did I say that Witten would replace Gonzo. He will break all his records though. After Tony Gonzalez breaks all of Sharpe's records (which obviously will happen).

Clint in Wichita 11-16-2004 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserName
This kid is only 22 and he is already as good as as Tony was in his third year.

Throw in the fact that he is getting it done with not a single premier offensive player around him, and you can see how good he is. His QB is Vinny Testaverde for crying out loud! Eddie George is scaring no one!

You heard it here first.



Cowboys fans crack me up.

BTW, Gonzalez has few, if any, NFL records right now.

Hammock Parties 11-16-2004 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clint in Wichita
Cowboys fans crack me up.

BTW, Gonzalez has few, if any, NFL records right now.

He will own them all by the time he is done.

Calcountry 11-16-2004 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserName
I think Tony will still remain the best TE for at least 4-5 more years. It amuses me to no end to see some hot new young TE every year and everyone thinks he's going to replace Tony G.

No one is talking about Shockey now that Gates is here. And Heap is hurt.

WTF is it with you and tight ends

Calcountry 11-16-2004 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can
Tony Gonzalez is the next Jason Dunn

ROFL

Clint in Wichita 11-16-2004 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserName
He will own them all by the time he is done.

Not if he's not even as good as a douche like Witten.

Logical 11-16-2004 11:59 AM

Whether Gonzo is the best or holds all the records will not matter one bit if at least and AFC Championship never goes with those records. Good for him but they won't have amounted to anything.

Calcountry 11-16-2004 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry
Whatever, Kellen "I'm a F***ing solider" Winslow is the greatest tight end ever to step on this planet. ROFL

When? Was he here at the Planet?

Hammock Parties 11-16-2004 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
Whether Gonzo is the best or holds all the records will not matter one bit if at least and AFC Championship never goes with those records. Good for him but they won't have amounted to anything.

That is the sad truth, Lord Logical. :(

cheeeefs 11-16-2004 12:45 PM

People are so reeruned I swear. Jason who? I don't want to hear a single person say any tight end is going to be the next Tony G until said TE strings together AT LEAST 3 good seasons in a row. Why oh why username do you insist on echoing the media in this most idiotic craze. Tony is the only real deal TE in the game right now. Is lots of other talent out there? Yes. Does that prove anything? Hell no. Just shut up, sit down, and never copy mass media again.

Hammock Parties 11-16-2004 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheeeefs
People are so reeruned I swear. Jason who? I don't want to hear a single person say any tight end is going to be the next Tony G until said TE strings together AT LEAST 3 good seasons in a row. Why oh why username do you insist on echoing the media in this most idiotic craze. Tony is the only real deal TE in the game right now. Is lots of other talent out there? Yes. Does that prove anything? Hell no. Just shut up, sit down, and never copy mass media again.

I am NOT saying Witten is a better tight end than Gonzalez or as good as him. All I am saying is that I think Witten will break all of Gonzalez' records. Just like Emmitt broke Payton's records. Is/Was Emmitt a better RB than Payton? HELL NO!

cheeeefs 11-16-2004 12:54 PM

Okay, so you have some notion that Tony is going to play fewer seasons then Witten? or that Witten is going to come out of the gates faster then Tony did? Because if you say Witten is going to break all of the records that we are so sure Tony will end up getting unless you think Witten is going to have extra seasons/more play time to do it in... That's exactly what yuo're saying.

Hammock Parties 11-16-2004 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheeeefs
Okay, so you have some notion that Tony is going to play fewer seasons then Witten? or that Witten is going to come out of the gates faster then Tony did? Because if you say Witten is going to break all of the records that we are so sure Tony will end up getting unless you think Witten is going to have extra seasons/more play time to do it in... That's exactly what yuo're saying.

That's pretty much what I'm saying. Witten is as good right now as Tony was in his third or fourth season. And he's only 22!

cheeeefs 11-16-2004 01:04 PM

with that I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. He's putting up impressive numbers, but the true test is consistancy. In two more seasons if he is as hot as he is now, or even slightly less hot, I'll give that theory some credence. How many flame out TE's have we seen that put up good numbers for their first few seasons, then disapeared into mediocraty? It happens all too often, so color me doubtfull.

Kylo Ren 11-16-2004 01:08 PM

We've heard this before. Every year there's one or two new TE's that the media says are "the next Tony Gonzalez". Tony G is going to break all of the records for a TE. He's #1 and will be for quite some time. Maybe someone will come along in the next few years, but I'll have to see it to believe it. I remember when the Raiders were crowing that Ricky Dudley was better than Tony G. Come on, give me a break.

vckcchiefs04 11-16-2004 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserName
I have to disagree. Maybe in the past but this year he is on pace to pretty much equal his best season as a Chief.

Plus the year he got 1,203 yards we didn't run the ball very much at all.

I dunno man..... the team still almost put up 1500 yards that season. 1465 to be exact. :hmmm:

Taco John 11-16-2004 03:08 PM

Just out of curiotisty...

What records?

KCWolfman 11-16-2004 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunther_Fan
I remember when the Raiders were crowing that Ricky Dudley was better than Tony G. Come on, give me a break.

Yup, that came directly from some raider fans on this board. The talent evaluation from some of our rivals is more than a little funny now and then.....


Barry Sanders.....hahahahaaa

Hammock Parties 11-16-2004 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vckcchiefs04
I dunno man..... the team still almost put up 1500 yards that season. 1465 to be exact. :hmmm:

1,465 yards rushing over 16 games is shitty.

Hammock Parties 11-16-2004 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John
Just out of curiotisty...

What records?

How many times do we have to go through this?

Tony Gonzalez will easily break all of Shannon Sharpe's records.

Nightfyre 11-16-2004 03:11 PM

Records are overrated. The big game is what counts. And Tony G is one of the best blocking TEs in the league.

Taco John 11-16-2004 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserName
How many times do we have to go through this?

Tony Gonzalez will easily break all of Shannon Sharpe's records.


So then, no records? Your talking about Records that Tony Gonzalez hasn't even broken?

ROFL ROFL ROFL


Great thread! :thumb:

Taco John 11-16-2004 03:14 PM

Do you think anybody will break "all" of Trent Green's passing "records?" ROFL

FAX 11-16-2004 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John
So then, no records? Your talking about Records that Tony Gonzalez hasn't even broken?

ROFL ROFL ROFL


Great thread! :thumb:

There once was a poster named Taco
Who did nothing but slander and squawk-o
He smaqued on the Chiefs
While he took down his briefs
And smaqued on his small Taco stalk-o

FAX

Taco John 11-16-2004 03:17 PM

Here, I got something for Tony Gonzalez to hold his current crop of record-breaking achievements in:

http://www.nocbay.com/media/metalitems/thimble.jpg

Brock 11-16-2004 03:17 PM

I wonder when Quentin Sanders Griffin will be playing again.

Hammock Parties 11-16-2004 03:19 PM

Taco, are you saying Tony Gonzalez won't break Shannon Sharpe's records?

FAX 11-16-2004 03:19 PM

There once was a poster named Taco
Who trolled the CP like a hawk-o
He was donk through and through
And had nothing to do
Except post and fondle his teeny cock-o

FAX

FAX

FAX 11-16-2004 03:20 PM

There once was a poster named Taco
Who defended illegal cut-block-os
He called it just sports
Then he pulled down his shorts
And had sport in his miniscule jock-o

FAX

Taco John 11-16-2004 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserName
Taco, are you saying Tony Gonzalez won't break Shannon Sharpe's records?



I'm saying Tony Gonzalez has no ownership of any records that I know of. As far as forecasting what he *might* do, I'll leave that to fanboys like you. Currently, Tony Gonzalez owns no records. He owns plenty of TALK though.

Taco John 11-16-2004 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX
There once was a poster named Taco
Who defended illegal cut-block-os
He called it just sports
Then he pulled down his shorts
And had sport in his miniscule jock-o

FAX



Actually, I would never defend an illegal block.

What's your fascination with my penis? That's three poems in a row of your fantasies...

Taco John 11-16-2004 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENDelt260


ROFL

tk13 11-16-2004 03:27 PM

Tony is 298 receptions, 3766 yards, and 10 TD's behind Sharpe for his career. I honestly didn't realize Gonzo was that close to Sharpe in any category.

vckcchiefs04 11-16-2004 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserName
1,465 yards rushing over 16 games is shitty.

I see.... so a team without a dominant running back at the time would not be happy with that amount of yards? Plus, if we did not run very much or very well, teams would ignore the running game more and double Gonzalez right? There ya go.... Tony is the best tightend in football and will be for a few more years. Whatever records he gets besides Chiefs records will be tough to reach.

Hammock Parties 11-16-2004 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13
Tony is 298 receptions, 3766 yards, and 10 TD's behind Sharpe for his career. I honestly didn't realize Gonzo was that close to Sharpe in any category.

That's 4 seasons. Say goodnight, horseface.

Hammock Parties 11-16-2004 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vckcchiefs04
I see.... so a team without a dominant running back at the time would not be happy with that amount of yards? Plus, if we did not run very much or very well, teams would ignore the running game more and double Gonzalez right? There ya go.... Tony is the best tightend in football and will be for a few more years. Whatever records he gets besides Chiefs records will be tough to reach.

1,465 yards is shitty. Marty's teams routinely ran for 2,000+ without the aid of a #1 running back.

Hammock Parties 11-16-2004 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENDelt260

Did you throw that in your stockpile of Disney Slash? You sick fucker.
ROFL

penguinz 11-16-2004 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserName
This kid is only 22 and he is already as good as as Tony was in his third year.

Throw in the fact that he is getting it done with not a single premier offensive player around him, and you can see how good he is. His QB is Vinny Testaverde for crying out loud! Eddie George is scaring no one!

You heard it here first.

It is easy for him to get his catches and yards when he is the only guy Vinny throws the ball to.

FAX 11-16-2004 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John
Actually, I would never defend an illegal block.

What's your fascination with my penis? That's three poems in a row of your fantasies...

Sorry about that. But, there's only so many words that rhyme with "taco". If you would be kind enough to change your username, it might help. Perhaps Taco Willie?

FAX

Hammock Parties 11-16-2004 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz
It is easy for him to get his catches and yards when he is the only guy Vinny throws the ball to.

Keyshawn has 38 catches. Glenn had 24 before he got hurt 3 games ago.

tk13 11-16-2004 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserName
That's 4 seasons. Say goodnight, horseface.

Who's the all-time leader for TD's by a tight end? That's not Sharpe is it?...

Hammock Parties 11-16-2004 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13
Who's the all-time leader for TD's by a tight end? That's not Sharpe is it?...

It is. He has 62. That will fall next year most likely.

penguinz 11-16-2004 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserName
Keyshawn has 38 catches. Glenn had 24 before he got hurt 3 games ago.

Witten acounts for 30% of the completions that Vinny has made. YOu have to assume that the ball is being thrown to him at least 40% of the time.

Hammock Parties 11-16-2004 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz
Witten acounts for 30% of the completions that Vinny has made. YOu have to assume that the ball is being thrown to him at least 40% of the time.

And Gonzalez accounts for 25% of the completions in our offense.

The fact that Witten is doing so well without anyone worth a crap around him is all you need to know.

Inspector 11-16-2004 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John
Actually, I would never defend an illegal block.

What's your fascination with my penis? That's three poems in a row of your fantasies...

You have a penis???


That might just be a rash that will clear up.


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