IF we sign Hartwell, do we go 3-4 or 'Falcon'?
IF they are really still persuing Hartwell....I have a sneaking suspicion that Gun may put some combination of Bell/Hartwell/Mitchell/Beisel in the middle, with Fujita/Beisel/Bell/Fox as the OLBs or "Falcon"....
Personally, for me....a Fujita/Bell/Mitchell/Hartwell lineup would be intriguing. Thoughts??? |
This is the Chiefs we're talking about, they are done with signing LBs now. What do you think this is, a winning organization or something?
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Sign Hartwell and draft Derrick Johnson, go to a 4-4 defense, and kill the QB! :)
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(Hey, it WOULD work in HS....heh, heh.) :) |
My opinion is put the best damn talent on the field at a given time!
I also agree with Ed, we are done signing LB's.......... |
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What was interesting is, he said that actually he is pretty decent in coverage--pickin' up the flats, the "seam" routes, and helpin' on the TE. He actually showed me a couple of game films from 2002 where Bell did look good in that role..... :hmmm: I'm really just thinkin' out loud, here. |
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Carl said in one of the press conferences that with LB Bell signed, that they would focus on another need on defense. Im guessing that means either the cornerback or safety position.
I highly doubt we see them pursue Ed Hartwell any further, considering the 10 m signing bonus he is wanting. |
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I'll tell you this RIGHT NOW...
If the Chiefs go to a 4-3, you will see some Major juggling... LE: Hicks T: Siavii RE: Sims LOLB: Fujita LILB: Hartwell RILB: Bell ROLB: Allen |
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We don't have the size upfront to go 3-4 do we?
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Only if we move Allen to OLB and Sims to end... See below... |
There's no way the Chiefs go to 3-4. Just forget it right now. Jared Allen doesn't have the size to play end in a 3-4, and Hicks would get killed.
Our D lines up perfectly in a 4-3 if we sign Hartwell. OLB: Bell MLB: Hartwell OLB: Fujita DE: Allen DT: Dalton DT: Siavii/Sims (rooting for Junior to take over) DE: Hicks We get a new corner and a new safety in here with that front seven and we're looking at a good defense. |
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And if people keep predicting the 3-4 every offseason, eventually they'll guess right. Maybe. Or should I say maby. |
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:thumb: At that point, adding a safety in the second round would probably shore up that position---this year's group seems 'deep.' :hmmm: |
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I know Carl likes to negotiate, but he's not that stupid. |
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Surtain might be doable because he wants out and might backload it. I have to think the Chiefs know they have to get one or the other. |
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Certainly, though...that is a very good point. :hmmm: |
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are you serious? Jeez, I hope hes not getting slower... That like 20 lbs in just a few months. :shake: |
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It's STILL a possibiltity.
Heh. Even Phobia agrees--gotta be somethin' to it. :thumb: |
that would require putting Sims heads up over center; where he would have a hard time matching his stellar 13 tackle season of 2004.
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Am I the only one that remembers the "falcon" as a worthless scheme? Didn't DT have his worst year as the "falcon"?
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I'm of the opinion, the reason we got bell is for the 4-3 and to play outside. I think durability is a question in the 3-4 where he would occasionally be double teamed by large offensive linemen, in a 4-3 the worse he would get is 1 on 1.
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If the chiefs are really serious about going to the super bowl they should sign Hartwell too AND the then keep Fujita.
why? because if you want to win a super bowl you need to be great at one spot on either side of the ball. On the offensive side we are great at offensive line. On defense we aren't great anywhere. i'm a HUGE cornerback homer... but that's not gonna work out, there's only 1 really good cornerback available. So lets just field and outstanding linebacker corps. sign hartwell ... start hartwell,Bell,fujita .. hartwell has the speed to play outside. We also have the flexibility to stick beisel or mitchell out there and play a 3-4. It also gives us coverage in case bell has an injury again. sign hartwell, draft a cornerback in round 1 AND 2 1st - carlos rogers 2nd - eric green we'll be really young in the secondary, but our run defense should be outstanding. put bartee,battle at free safety along with the rest of the million safeties and may the best man win. but at least we will have SOMETHING to hang our hat on for the defense. |
Bell is a middle linebacker. He is comfortable there. He's also the best linebacker we have so he should STAY in the middle. That's all there is to it...
The only nose tackle we have on this roster is Siavii, and I don't think he would be ready to play. Sims would be a pretty good end in the 3-4, and Jared Allen would be fantastic OLB in a 3-4. But the fact is, I think that our second defensive tackle (Browning/Dalton) is/are better at what they do than Fujita is at what he does. So, you keep the best 11 on the field by staying with a 4-3. However, if we could trade Dalton and Fujita for a draft pick, and sign Hartwell. Then we might be able to move up and grab Johnson. In which case, the 3-4 would make a TON of sense! (NOTE: This is not necessarily the BEST thing to do, and certainly wouldn't happen). Hicks Siavii Sims Johnson Hartwell Bell Allen would be a fantastic front seven, and fast as hell... |
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I just spooged all over my keyboard; you owe me $89 plus tax....sukka. ;) |
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I don't think we have to find a stud, but we MUST at least find a servicable starter opposite Warfield. MUST.... |
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We're just no longer negotiating. There's an offer on the table, take it or leave it. Right now, he doesn't have a better option. |
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The Falcon was one of Gunther's WORST ideas ever. |
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To run a 3-4, you need a line that can clog things up. We just don't have the line personnel to do that. Allen is way too light with a 3-4 and Sims can't clog up one guy many times. Do we really trust Hicks in a 3-4?
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