King Carl and the Hunt Family. The Planet Poll.
King Carl is making money hand over fist for the Hunt family. If thats your goal sign him to a 5 year contract extension. If your goal is to win the Super Bowl and you haven't won a playoff game in 12 years welll a contract extension is probably not in your thought process.
At least now we know what the Hunt families primary goal is. And that just plain and simple is fill the stadium and make money and then pursue the Super Bowl. And that isn't the same goal as most people here, to win the Super Bowl. |
You're not writing the checks, so of course the P&L is not your primary concern.
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I have that turds that haven't won a playoff game in 12 years. You don't see me resigning them, do you Lamar?
ha-ha! take that! (ok, I got nothin...this shit sucks) |
Just a reiteration of what has been said already quite possibly over a hundred thousand times.
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Time for another rally.
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Lamar is playing you like a fiddle.
Got your season ticket order in yet? |
looks to be an interesting day around here...
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Carl Peterson is a terrific CEO for the Chiefs organization. What he is not is a good football GM. I am perfectly fine with CP leading the business side of Chiefs football, I just want a football guy to run the TEAM.
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I'm pretty sure Lamar doesn't see it as Carl's job to deliver a dynasty or a SB winning franchise.
That's the job of the coaches/players. |
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You are joking, right? |
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Why would Lamar pay 2 guys to do 2 jobs at 2x the salary, when he can pay 1 guy for 2 jobs at 1.5x pay and get 1.5x the results? The business side is 1x the results, with the other .5x the football side of the results, putting us smack in NFL mediocrity, but close enough to keep us all coming back for more. Don't forget, just because most of us may not have been around or aware back in SB IV, Lamar already has his trophy. |
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Did it ever occur to you that winning a Super Bowl game will fill a lot of empty seats, sell a lot of merchandise, and create a lot of revenue?
Did it ever occur to you that consistently placing your team in the playoffs year after year will do all of the above as well? Winning begets profits. You can't honestly believe they tried to make a profit by NOT winning the Super Bowl. :rolleyes: |
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Welcome to the NFL. It's about making money first, and winning second. It's been only happening for about 103yrs.
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16 years and 19 different teams to the Super Bowl during the King Carl era.
1988 Washington and Denver 2 1989 San Franciso and Cincinatti 4 1990 no one new 1991 Giants and Buffalo 6 1992 no one new 1993 Dallas 7 1994 no one new 1995 San Diego Chargers 8 1996 Pittsburgh Steelers 9 1997 Green Bay and New England Patriots 11 1998 No one new from this list 1999 Atlanta Falcons 12 2000 St Louis Rams and Tennesse Titans 14 2001 Baltimore Ravens 15 2002 No one new from this list 2002 Oakland and Tampa Bay 17 2003 Carolina Panthers 18 2004 Philadelphia 19 12 years without a playoff win. Yep, certaintly deserving of a 5 year extension. :banghead: |
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Then he put Steadman in charge because he was losing money.... that was a disaster because we went through years of losing and K's of empty seats. Now, under Kingless it seems he is still committed to making mo money and that he doesn't care about winning a S.B. How else could you re-sign a G.M. who has not won a playoff game in a dozen years? Or at least he should put pressure upon him to win. I have no problem with Hunt making money ... but his lack of commitment to winning a S.B. is a big problem. It really looks gloomy for a S.B. win until the owner gets converted or is out of the picture.... Now, a disclaimer ... it is possible that the resigning of Kingless can help us attract the F.A.'s we want sign.... it gives stability to the team. Just maybe Kingless knew a new contract was to be signed and he was able to tell Knight, Bell, Law, etc... that he would be there. Another disclaimer .... my problem is the timing of the signing. It would have been much better to wait and see how this season goes. We go to the S.B. (and maybe if we lose the AFC championship game) then I'd be willing to give C.P. more time. If we go one playoff and out ... or less ... then he will need to go... Lamar will not fire him until the team begins to lose money. |
I honestly don't think they "don't care about winning." I just think they have no idea how to achieve it.
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Curiously, the poll options seem to indicate that it's possible to have equivalent top goals of filling Arrowhead AND making money, but you can't have equivalent top goals of being profitable AND winning the Super Bowl. I didn't find my answer among the choices so I didn't vote.
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Lamar has lived to see his team win a superbowl.
Im pretty sure all he is concerned with now, is the bottom line. Making sure his team, his business, makes him a profit. If he happens to win a Superbowl while doing that, great, but it isnt something that he is going to go all out for, like we see other teams doing. Lamar wants a consistently managable team, without a lot of cap headaches. So he adds a couple guys here, and a couple bargain basement guys there, and if it doesnt pay off, hey, he tried, but it just wasnt meant to be, and he still turns his profit. When was the last time you ever saw a really dynamite player that had already established himself as a great player, worth bigtime cash brought into KC? I think maybe Wille Roaf qualifies, but he wasnt a bank breaker, and he had also suffered a horrible injury which made him a question mark. I cannot remember at any time, the Chiefs bringing in a standout, top tier player who wasnt either on his way to retirement, or recently injured. We get em cheap from the outset, injured, or in the twilight of their careers. |
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You've gotta be fuggen kidding me? Are you stoned or just plain stupid?
Football is a business. You cannot have a successful business WITHOUT a successful product on the field. The only way to get a successful product is by hiring the right coaches and drafting and buying the right players in order to remain competetive. If the Chiefs were NOT fielding a competetive team on the field - NONE of you would be buying tickets and NONE of you would be here on the Planet, but instead playing with your Star Wars figurine set. To get people to buy tickets- your product must be attractive enough and CP has done a remarkable job at doing so. We've had PLENTY of chances to get to the Super Bowl in the 90's, but for botched kicks and poor game planning here and there- we didn't accomplish that goal. We failed miserably in the 90's to reach the ultimate goal- the Super Bowl! And you all know damn well we had our best chances then. We then had another very good chance a couple of seasons ago. We had everything going our way that season and everyone here felt a sensation in their belly we were going to the Super Bowl. Had we made it in the 90's like we should have, and had we made it a couple of years ago like we should have - NONE of you would be unhappy with this extension. So, shut the hell up 'cause the fact of the matter is- since 1988 the Chiefs have been returned to the echelon of one of the most storied and successful franchises and you should all be proud. But to honestly think Lamar doesn't want another Super Bowl win and Carl is only interested in money is pure BS. Your team MUST be successful on the field in order to generate any kind of profit. Without a good football team- you have no fans. If you have no fans, you have no money. If you don't like it, go root for someone else....I'm a Chiefs fan, and I may not be too happy with the extension, but I'll still go to every fuggen game until I die.... |
I honestly believe they only care about winning to make money. I don't believe that will change at all, unless it is the only way to get a new stadium.
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Where's the 'GF is a douche' option :shrug:
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I personally think that Carl has fielded teams good enough to win the Supwebowl in '93, '97, and to a lesser extent. Alot lesser '02.
I think in those instances its the teams that failed and choked. I believe the product put on the field was Supwerbowl caliber. |
i don't see how there can be any real question
the chiefs haven't won a playoff game in 12 mutha fuggin years!!! 1993 is our last playoff win :banghead: and Lamar hunt just gave the GM a contract extension ... some owners would of fired the GM just out of principal and send a message that the performance level isn't good enough. that tells you right there that he has bigger priorities than winning a super bowl. The Hunt family priorities IMO 1. Money - it's a business and he wants his 20-30 million in profit each year. 2. winning - at least enough to keep fans interested enough to make money 3. prestige - he doesn't want to be embarrassed. So the chiefs must win enough to not be a joke and must have some appearance of integrity within the organization. 4. consistency - he wants to have a decent chance to MAKE the playoffs each year much more than he wants to take the risk and go all out to win a super bowl. 5. super bowl |
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and lest we forget that every other AFC West team has been to the Super Bowl during the King Carl era but the Chiefs.
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Thats right. Denver twice, San Diego and Oakland both once. Denver circumvented the cap, so they shouldnt count really, but at least it shows a desire by the organization to do more than just fill the stands. |
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Making money? It's up there on their list, but the Super Bowl is top priority. The improvements that should be made to Arrowhead are investments that will do much more than pay for themselves....
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Carl should be fired.
The rest of the post is bullshiot. |
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Cosmic - 3 playoff wins since 1989 does not in any way make this team "upper echelon". You are a rabid fan that desperately wants his team to win it all, as am I. But even a stadium full of fans like you and I doesn't make this team "upper echelon".
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can't argue with facts |
Question—What do some of you think Carl and his ego would prefer:
1. Going into a meeting of NFL executives and bragging about making a profit? 2. Going into a meeting of NFL executives and bragging about winning the Super Bowl? I can't for the life of me think it's #1. With that being posted, the goal of ANY business is to make money. Not doing so would mean you would not be in business. And, as hard as it may be for some of you to accept or acknowledge, the NFL is a business. MM ~~:shrug: |
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1. striving for a super bowl, but keeping the books balanced or 2. striving for a large profit margin, but hoping for a super bowl a huge difference ... the top priorities are basically in reverse by extending carl's contract the hunt family has clearly indicated that their financial interests are their first priority. Making 20+ million dollars profit each year is much more important then making 5+ million in profit and having a legit run at the super bowl. |
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