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Phobia 04-20-2005 06:17 PM

Censorship Policy
 
The users of ChiefsPlanet decided many years ago that we would censor a select few objectionable words. We decided the F-bomb, C-bomb, and N-bomb were amongst those. We have since added ANY racial slur to that list. We've also stated that any attempt to circumvent our automatic censor would result in severe punishment.

However, we've not been very consistent. For instance, I've always allowed a partially censored "fuck" to stand. I have never allowed umulats or other such methods of fooling the filter to remain if I discovered them. Our lack of consistency has recently been pointed out and I'd like to solve the issue. Please vote your preference.

keg in kc 04-20-2005 06:23 PM

I'm abstaining. Hell, I'll talk the way I talk regardless of how it's fucking censored.

CosmicPal 04-20-2005 06:23 PM

I usually say *****.

Is that okay? I'm not trying to phool anyone, just that it was phine with everyone.

keg in kc 04-20-2005 06:26 PM

This is a tangent, but what is the Planet's policy for making major decisions like this. Is it simple majority? Is there a guideline regarding the number of options in the poll or about how they should be constructed (to avoid manipulation)? Might not be a bad idea to establish that policy at some point, or re-state what the current guidelines are.

Bowser 04-20-2005 06:27 PM

Ehh, if we can't use it, we can't use it. I abstain.

Phobia 04-20-2005 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc
This is a tangent, but what is the Planet's policy for making major decisions like this. Is it simple majority? Is there a guideline regarding the number of options in the poll or about how they should be constructed (to avoid manipulation)? Might not be a bad idea to establish that policy at some point, or re-state what the current guidelines are.

Simple majority in something like this.

There have been a few circumstances where it has required more but it is generally announced in advance.

For instance, if 30% of our board feels a moderator is out of line and deserves to be fired, I think that's too high.

Skip Towne 04-20-2005 06:31 PM

Who gives a fuck? fuck it.

chiefs4me 04-20-2005 06:31 PM

What's Bob Dole say.....:hmmm:

Phobia 04-20-2005 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENDelt260
There's not really a poll option that reflects my opinion. I want to vote to keep the current policy.

I would say the last option reflects your opinion, then.

Iowanian 04-20-2005 06:34 PM

I'm as guilty as anyone lately.

If you decided to censor some words, and common variations of them, I'd support it. I don't know how its going to do alot of good though, considering alot of the material and subject matter.

badgirl 04-20-2005 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
I would say the last option reflects your opinion, then.

Thats also what I voted, the Titans board is so censored its no fun even being over there sometimes......wait I haven't been over there in a loooong time come to think of it.

keg in kc 04-20-2005 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
Simple majority in something like this.

There have been a few circumstances where it has required more but it is generally announced in advance.

That's what I thought, just wanted to make sure.
Quote:

For instance, if 30% of our board feels a moderator is out of line and deserves to be fired, I think that's too high.
Afraid of Tom Cash and all his alts costing you your gig, eh?

Phobia 04-20-2005 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
I don't know... to me that reads that any attempt to use the word fuck other than fuck would be censored. Meaning Cosmic's ***** or other self censorship methods wouldn't be Kosher.

Yeah - now that I'm looking at this poll, I'm not sure how fair it is anyway. Maybe I should start another poll to determine the fairness of this one....

milkman 04-20-2005 06:38 PM

I'm not sure there's any real point to the censorship if fuck is ok.
I also wonder how any other variations wouldn't be ok, since fuck is about as close to actually writing the word without censorship as one can get.

As for the censorship, I don't really care one way or the other.

Bob Dole 04-20-2005 06:42 PM

It's easier to just type the ****ing word and let the software do whatever the **** it wants...

JazzzLovr 04-20-2005 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefs4me
What's Bob Dole say.....:hmmm:

Bob Dole says "shitty." I don't think that's included in this poll.

Logical 04-20-2005 06:44 PM

I really do not see the point, if there is anyone on this BB that does not encounter the word fuck several times a week they are leading a very sheltered life. This includes anyone down to the age of 10. Parents who freak out over the word should visit a middleschool and really listen this word is in very common usage from around the 6th grade on.

Boozer 04-20-2005 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENDelt260
I was always under the impression that it was at least in part due to search engine concerns.

??? Even if there were no censorship, I doubt the Planet would rate that high on any variant of a "fuck" search, with the possible exception of "fuck you Carl."

Iowanian 04-20-2005 06:45 PM

How about.......Instead of actually Censoring words and content.......It is just "encouraged". and some of us long timers try a little harder to lead by example?

Boozer 04-20-2005 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
How about.......Instead of actually Censoring words and content.......It is just "encouraged". and some of us long timers try a little harder to lead by example?

fuck that.

Phobia 04-20-2005 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badbobby
It's easier to just type the ****ing word and let the software do whatever the **** it wants...

That's my ****ing preference as well, but I'm not going to cram that opinion down anybody's ****ing throat.

milkman 04-20-2005 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
I really do not see the point, if there is anyone on this BB that does not encounter the workfuck several times a week they are leading a very sheltered life.

I must be in the wrong line of work! :cuss: :p

Logical 04-20-2005 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SideWinder
I must be in the wrong line of work! :cuss: :p

ROFL maybe it was wishful thinking.

keg in kc 04-20-2005 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
How about.......Instead of actually Censoring words and content.......It is just "encouraged". and some of us long timers try a little harder to lead by example?

Yeah, but what if some asswipe (like me, for instance) tries to lead us into not giving a fuck about any stupid four letter words.

tommykat 04-20-2005 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
The users of ChiefsPlanet decided many years ago that we would censor a select few objectionable words. We decided the F-bomb, C-bomb, and N-bomb were amongst those. We have since added ANY racial slur to that list. We've also stated that any attempt to circumvent our automatic censor would result in severe punishment.

However, we've not been very consistent. For instance, I've always allowed a partially censored "fuck" to stand. I have never allowed umulats or other such methods of fooling the filter to remain if I discovered them. Our lack of consistency has recently been pointed out and I'd like to solve the issue. Please vote your preference.

FOOOOOOOOOOO CHIT....;) works for me.

htismaqe 04-20-2005 06:50 PM

I don't ****ing care.

Skip Towne 04-20-2005 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
How about.......Instead of actually Censoring words and content.......It is just "encouraged". and some of us long timers try a little harder to lead by example?

fuck you, Jack.

Iowanian 04-20-2005 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozer
fuck that.

Alright........well, just know that I'm doing the hand singals to go along with the following. Persons who are or have been in Iraq know their meaning.

"Shit on You, Boozer. **** you in the ass with 1000 dicks. May a dirty shoe crush your scrotum. I touch the face of your mother with my unwashed left hand, you fornicator of beasts of burden"

Otter 04-20-2005 06:56 PM

What about fook Phil?!?!?

(William Shatner Dramatics) What About Fook?!?!?

No one is going to write anything that will shock me. Hell I may even be part of the reason for this poll.

I don't give a fuck!

BIG_DADDY 04-20-2005 06:56 PM

This might come as a giant shock to many of you but I'm just not a big ****ing rules/censorship guy.

Otter 04-20-2005 06:58 PM

And what's this punishment you speak of? A spanking by TommyKat (she may hit my head by mistake though) or a week with GoatChiefs living in the spare room?

I refrain from my previous answer till the punishment details are handed out.

Logical 04-20-2005 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
Alright........well, just know that I'm doing the hand singals to go along with the following. Persons who are or have been in Iraq know their meaning.

"Shit on You, Boozer. **** you in the ass with 1000 dicks. May a dirty shoe crush your scrotum. I touch the face of your mother with my unwashed left hand, you fornicator of beasts of burden"

If his scrotum is being crushed I sincerly doubt if he will care if the shoe is dirty, even less so if it is after first being fucked in the ass by a 1000 dicks.

Iowanian 04-20-2005 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
fuck you, Jack.


Enough Clem. I think its time that someone just come out and tell you that its time to take that twisted Rubber band off your shriveled unit. Its starting to make you a ****ing Cranky bastard. If a 6 pack of viagra and shocks from a defibulator can't wake it up..........You're fighting a losing cause.

Iowanian 04-20-2005 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
If his scrotum is being crushed I sincerly doubt if he will care if the shoe is dirty, even less so if it is after first being fucked in the ass by a 1000 dicks.

I'm told that is all very insulting.

In your case, may you find yourself Locked in an elevator with Chiefs4me, Gochiefs, and memyselfI, after they've all drank a gallon of Red Bull with their strip mall mexican buffet.

badgirl 04-20-2005 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
If his scrotum is being crushed I sincerly doubt if he will care if the shoe is dirty, even less so if it is after first being fucked in the ass by a 1000 dicks.

ROFL ROFL

Logical 04-20-2005 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
I'm told that is all very insulting.

In your case, may you find yourself Locked in an elevator with Chiefs4me, Gochiefs, and memyselfI, after they've all drank a gallon of Red Bull with their strip mall mexican buffet.

Now that is a genuine "fuck me in the ass, it would be less painful" scenario.

HemiEd 04-20-2005 07:04 PM

Whatever the fuck is decided by the leadership is great by me. :thumb: Has Deadwood been any inspiration? :hmmm:

Iowanian 04-20-2005 07:06 PM

I'm tired of your ****ing **** mouth, hemid...you one who sucks the penis.

Pezman 04-20-2005 07:09 PM

Just from a visiting perspective... I think it really depends on the demographic visiting the site. If it is a family-type crowd or work-safe crowd that visits, then the expectations might be a bit different in terms of what should be seen.

Honestly, censorship does suck, but it also allows more viewing from the family/work crowd IMO...A double edged sword if there ever was one however...

Bob Dole 04-20-2005 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd
Whatever the fuck is decided by the leadership is great by me. :thumb: Has Deadwood been any inspiration? :hmmm:


We were here before Deadwood, ****stick.

Logical 04-20-2005 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
I'm tired of your ****ing **** mouth, hemid...you one who sucks the penis.

Well an obscene kcnut impression. Well done.

keg in kc 04-20-2005 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter
And what's this punishment you speak of? A spanking by TommyKat (she may hit my head by mistake though)

Lookin' for a little sumpin' sumpin', eh?

HemiEd 04-20-2005 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
I'm tired of your ****ing **** mouth, hemid...you one who sucks the penis.

ROFL ROFL You need to buy a vowel!

chiefs4me 04-20-2005 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
I'm told that is all very insulting.

In your case, may you find yourself Locked in an elevator with Chiefs4me, Gochiefs, and memyselfI, after they've all drank a gallon of Red Bull with their strip mall mexican buffet.



:hmmm: Gochiefs is to young, memyselfI is not my type...what do you look like Vald ? ROFL

Iowanian 04-20-2005 07:12 PM

whore. You're married.

Skip Towne 04-20-2005 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
Enough Clem. I think its time that someone just come out and tell you that its time to take that twisted Rubber band off your shriveled unit. Its starting to make you a ****ing Cranky bastard. If a 6 pack of viagra and shocks from a defibulator can't wake it up..........You're fighting a losing cause.

Hey Clyde, insulting rednecks is my thing. Get your own schtick. And you're NOT funny.

HemiEd 04-20-2005 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badbobby
We were here before Deadwood, ****stick.

So longevity is the rule of f**king measurement and justification, Perfect! :hail:

chiefs4me 04-20-2005 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
whore. You're married.




good gosh killer.....lighten up....what's got your panties in a wad.....ROFL

Iowanian 04-20-2005 07:16 PM

I thought folks your age were normally named Cletus, clemintine, Enos, Alvin, Jebediah.......stuff like that.

If'n you're scheduling a course at the 101 level on Fundamenals of Humor, I'd like to be the first to sign up.

Phobia 04-20-2005 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pezman
Just from a visiting perspective... I think it really depends on the demographic visiting the site. If it is a family-type crowd or work-safe crowd that visits, then the expectations might be a bit different in terms of what should be seen.

Honestly, censorship does suck, but it also allows more viewing from the family/work crowd IMO...A double edged sword if there ever was one however...

We are an adult site. We don't pretend to be a family site and we don't cater to children. At the same time, we don't want to be a trailer park site.

Mr. Laz 04-20-2005 07:18 PM

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if they are old enough and experience enough to figure out what letter belongs in the rude words they are old enough to deal with.



so shut the fuck up you dumb c*ck s*cking b*stard *ss m*ther fucking piece of cow sh*t.


i will however censor my picture so it's no longer as offensive, you c#nt sucking *nus licking T*tty muncher.


.

Iowanian 04-20-2005 07:18 PM

In all seriousness..........I'd like to see curse words removed from Thread Titles.

no need to make the raider fans feel too much at home.

Phobia 04-20-2005 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd
Whatever the fuck is decided by the leadership is great by me. :thumb: Has Deadwood been any inspiration? :hmmm:

I think we're pretty flexible. Whatever the community decides.

I know nothing about Deadwood. I'm not an HBO subscriber.

Logical 04-20-2005 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
I believe there was concern that the overabundance of certain words could result in the site being classified as adult.

Or something. I could be making this all up.

More likely a drunken haze, but we all know you.

Bob Dole 04-20-2005 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
We are an adult site. We don't pretend to be a family site and we don't cater to children. At the same time, we don't want to be a trailer park site.

The one in PA is definitely enough.

Pezman 04-20-2005 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
I think we're pretty flexible. Whatever the community decides.

I know nothing about Deadwood. I'm not an HBO subscriber.

The loss is yours... Deadwood owns!

HemiEd 04-20-2005 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
I think we're pretty flexible. Whatever the community decides.

I know nothing about Deadwood. I'm not an HBO subscriber.


Deadwood has gotten to the point where every other word is the F Bomb. I started watching it in the beginning but it is starting to get old by wearing the F Bomb out. They do have some nice T&A once in a while though, western style.

milkman 04-20-2005 07:27 PM

So what happens if the abstain votes win in the poll?

HemiEd 04-20-2005 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENDelt260
It's been like that since episode 1.


Ok, maby I am just getting tired of it? ROFL

Otter 04-20-2005 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badbobby
The one in PA is definitely enough.

I'm tired of these broad strokes used to define PA.

I'll hunt every one of you ****ers down or harrass you to the poor house!!!!


:cuss:

Bob Dole 04-20-2005 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter
I'm tired of these broad strokes used to define PA.

Bob Dole was just trying to be courteous by not singling you out...

Otter 04-20-2005 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badbobby
Bob Dole was just trying to be courteous by not singling you out...

Alright then.

Please PM me your home telephone number, address, next of kin, social security number and the names of your chiwawas and we'll conisder the matter settled.

HemiEd 04-20-2005 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENDelt260
I like how the profanity is intermingled with, what seems to me anyway, a somewhat formal speech pattern.

Using all these big words... expressing thoughts as verbosely as possible... with a few f-bombs and maybe a c*cksucker sprinkled in. It's weird to listen to.

Or, maybe I just drink too much whiskey while watching that show.

Yep, good take. The Hotel owner (Mayor) just cracks me up, I forget his name. His character seems to be the most gramatically correct. I may be sick, but I can not wait for the Calamity Jane fuck! What the hell was wrong with her lips in this last episode? ROFL

mcan 04-20-2005 07:41 PM

I feel like Chiefsplanet is a little world where I'm allowed to be myself among people who can also be themselves without fear that they are breaking the rules or being censored. That's why we all left the Star board in the first place.


I'm not saying that censoring a few words is as bad as what the Star board was doing, but I think it's a step in the wrong direction. I believe a good majority of the people on this board use these words on a regular basis, and even if they don't, few are probably offended just to see them. I also disagree that Chiefsplanet should be some kind of "clean" enviornment. We're a bunch of football fans that like women, and farts and shit. We shouldn't be ashamed of that. This is the place where we should CELEBRATE that.


Having an optional filter (like we do) should be enough.
Having the option of turning off signatures, avatars, and attachments (like we do) should be enough.
Policing ourselves in regards to spam, trolls, and VERY offensive posters (like we do) should be enough.

Skip Towne 04-20-2005 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
I thought folks your age were normally named Cletus, clemintine, Enos, Alvin, Jebediah.......stuff like that.

If'n you're scheduling a course at the 101 level on Fundamenals of Humor, I'd like to be the first to sign up.

I dunno, you got any funny pitchurs?

CosmicPal 04-20-2005 07:46 PM

Just like Carlin says, "It's just a *****ing word! The word itself is okay, it's the context behind the word that isn't."

mcan 04-20-2005 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmicPal
Just like Carlin says, "It's just a *****ing word! The word itself is okay, it's the context behind the word that isn't."


It's all about context, IMO. Everything. People need to look strongly at what people mean, and not exactly what people say...

Iowanian 04-20-2005 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne
I dunno, you got any funny pitchurs?

I don't know, I'll have to look. I think I left them with my humor-Mojo.

Valiant 04-20-2005 07:54 PM

Bring on the ****s...

Skip Towne 04-20-2005 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
I don't know, I'll have to look. I think I left them with my humor-Mojo.

No pitchurs, we can't use you.

Iowanian 04-20-2005 07:58 PM

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Come to think of it Skip........I did have this one little pic that I've been saving to recommend for badgranny's avatar.

angel 04-20-2005 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcan
We're a bunch of football fans that like women, and farts and shit. We shouldn't be ashamed of that. This is the place where we should CELEBRATE that.

I don't like you speaking for everyone... I'm a football fan, but I don't like women, farts and feces.

This board has been good at people being considerate. I haven't been around lately, but it's not too often that I see inappropriate language.
I say, as long as we keep it to a minimum, the way things are should suffice.

Nzoner 04-20-2005 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
Our lack of consistency has recently been pointed out and I'd like to solve the issue.

Do we get to meet the fockers?

I use the above variation which in the last year has been plastered across every theatre marquee, screen and movie guide in the USA,don't see how it should be a problem here.

Personally,I don't agree with the censorship issue and voted as such but alot of you were here long before I so I'll abide by whatever the final vote is.

mcan 04-20-2005 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angel
I don't like you speaking for everyone... I'm a football fan, but I don't like women, farts and feces.

This board has been good at people being considerate. I haven't been around lately, but it's not too often that I see inappropriate language.
I say, as long as we keep it to a minimum, the way things are should suffice.


I fail to see your point... Stupidhead... ;)

1. I speak for everyone?
-Nope, I offered my opinion. Am I still allowed to do that?

2. You are a football fan that doesn't like women, etc...
-Never said you had to. But does the fact that you DON'T like women disallow us to celebrate the fact that most of us do?

3. Board has been good about being considerate...
-Considerate of what? People's sensitivity to "inappropriate language?" Maybe you haven't seen the multiple threads about the word "fuck" recently. Regardless, if you are sensitive about those words (or pictures or anything else), it's up to you to avoid them through the means provided. IE: profanity filters, turning off avatars/sigs/attachments. It shouldn't, IMO, be up to us to protect you from things you don't like by ceasing. This board is built by and meant for adults who are responsible for what they do and see.


Mcan
stirring the pot a bit...

Skip Towne 04-20-2005 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
Come to think of it Skip........I did have this one little pic that I've been saving to recommend for badgranny's avatar.

Hey, that will work for badgranny but has little to do with our work. Don't call us, we'll call you.

ChiTown 04-20-2005 09:04 PM

I've always considered this a site for adult Chiefs talk, as well as other topics. If people want to use foul language - go for it. If you can't take a little bad language, then go fuck yourself :)

mcan 04-20-2005 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENDelt260
You don't like women, candy cooch? You're destroying many a poster's fantasy with that one.


:)


See, this is exactly my point. We come to Chiefsplanet, not just for football news, but to get to know people. This is a community. If we were all meeting at a bowling alley, EnDelt would have every right to say this. So, he should have every right to say it here. If it pisses off Angela, then HE has to deal with it. But it shouldn't be Chiefsplanet's job to protect EnDelt from that wrath. Consequently, if we disallowed EnDelt to be his normal, cheery self, we couldn't say that we actually know him could we? But, I'd say by not censoring EnDelt, we've all gotten to know him pretty well, and that's a GOOD thing!

Now, if some kid walks into the bowling alley and hears some adults swearing, that's not the end of the world. Same should go with Chiefsplanet.

keg in kc 04-20-2005 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcan
It shouldn't, IMO, be up to us to protect you from things you don't like by ceasing. This board is meant built by and meant for adults who are responsible for what they do and see.

Agreed. Although I would go further. If you don't think something is appropriate...then don't say it. That's your perogative. Your responsibility, even. Just like it's mine to decide that abso-fucking-lutely nothing is inappropriate. Filter if you want, that's also your right. Personally, I don't see the point; I'm fooling myself if I think seeing '****' instead of 'fuck' somehow covers up what's being said, even in spirit. And in the end, jesus christ, we're talking about words here. As for kids, well, as has been pointed out, this is an adult site, but if a kid on here sees (gasp) one of my "dirty" words, then by all means I grant the supervising adult full permission to point at me as a bad man and an example of how you do not want him/her to behave.

Phobia 04-20-2005 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcan
Having an optional filter (like we do) should be enough.

Actually, that personalized filter hasn't worked for a long time - since we upgraded the board, at least.

angel 04-20-2005 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENDelt260
You don't like women, candy cooch? You're destroying many a poster's fantasy with that one.

that's a cute one-- I like this one the best so far...


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