How have the Raiders done in their pre-draft dealings?
try not to let your raider hatred bias your thoughts :(
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Having Randy Moss on your team isn't always a plus. I think I would have just stayed at the 7 spot.
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I guess they got a 2nd from the texans for buchanon wwhich they traded to the jets for the first (along with jolley) which is why the 2nd was left completely off? :shrug:
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I'm pretty ambivalent about what they've done, I guess. |
I'd say you did pretty good, if you ignore what your team needs were going into the off-season.
A team that is so bad on the defensive side of the ball, not only getting rid of defensive talent, but being aggressive in aquiring offensive talent. It just doesn't make a lot of sense for the Raiders. |
It'd make more sense had they gotten some defensive help. Instead they traded for an incredible WR with issues, and traded away a solid #2 CB, a LB and the 7th overall pick.
The Chiefs defense sucks ass to be sure, but the Faiders gave up more points and more rushing yards. One would think they'd have adressed those issues. Thankfully, they have not. MM ~~:D |
I would have to say that they performed like Chief wanna be's.
Got some good O help, lignoredt the D. |
If cmh6476 is correct that there should be a second round pick for the Raiduhs in there, then it makes a difference. As it stands, it actually doesn't look like they made out very well overall, even with the Jolley ripoff trade.
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They got a great deal from the Jets but I wouldn't have done the Moss deal.
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in my estimation.. The Raiders are just throwing their team away... granted.. Moss is great.. but they could have had a great, younger reciever with that pick... they have given up a LOT and recieved little in return
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I don't like it. They got a malcontent who can't be counted on. Moss' upside is tremendous and they're likely to reap some of the rewards but he'll likely have a negative impact in the locker room. A negative impact on a team that already had/has locker room chemistry problems.
Another reason not to like it is now they have a total of three picks in the entire draft. Most everyone will agree that the way to build a team is through the draft. I'd like to have more picks than that even if I sucked at drafting good players. Just my opinion. |
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They've done well in terms of acquiring draft picks, but I don't believe they've done anything that will help them in the next couple of years. Randy Moss and LaMont Jordan may, and probably will, help them offensively. But they'll be fielding a team without a defense. We all know our issues on that side of the ball. The Raiders have been even worse. And, so far, to improve the unit, they've traded away two first round picks from '02.
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i think they did a great job of doing the trades... they seemed to have gotten the better of each trade by a significant margin.
as for the team they are assembling and addressing specific team needs.... they haven't done very well at all. For each step forward they have taken a step backwards. |
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If you break the trade down based on the draft value chart stuck at the top of the Lounge, you see that Oakland gave up picks valued at 1519.2 and received picks valued at 901.4. The difference is 617.2 which is somewhere between the 30th (620) and 31st (610) picks overall. So speaking in terms of draft value, the trade can be boiled down to: received: Randy Moss dealt: Philip Buchanon Napoleon Harris Doug Jolley pick 1.30 Here is a breakdown of the draft values for the actual picks involved in the trade: Code:
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1st - 1300 (est) 3rd - 200 (est) |
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BTW, do you have a good source for estimating the value of future draft picks? |
I think the Raiders have done a great job during the offseason. Moss is an elite receiver, who demands constant attention by defenses. When you add him to Curry and Porter, Oakland has a scary good WR corps! Yes, he's a head case, but I bet he'll mind his business around Evil Al. Picking up Jordan was a steal. This kid is fast and strong! He will surprise a lot of people this year.
Buchanon was a bust at CB. He was horrible, and not likely to improve enough to be servicable. They wasted a high pick on him, but they salvaged a 2nd and 3rd for him, which is better than what KC has done with their crappy early picks (allow them to suck on the field until the buzzards circle, and then cut them). The Raiders defense is going to be one of the weakest in the league next year. They will make some more moves to address that, but that's just how it's going to be. What they did was improve their offense to the point where they will be able to outscore some teams, which is better than where they were last season. |
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ie 1st round pick from next year is worth the value of a 2nd round pick this year. although i think that's a little extreme to me ... because the pick's value will appreciate over time and become worth the same amount. |
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