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keg in kc 06-30-2005 09:36 PM

I have an embarrasing admission to make
 
I just watched a canadian football game.

I hope you can all forgive me.

Taco John 06-30-2005 09:37 PM

What did you think?

Miles 06-30-2005 09:38 PM

Have a good nap?

Hammock Parties 06-30-2005 09:38 PM

That's not embarrassing. I'd watch the games if they aired them regularly. CFL has cool rules. I like the wider field.

keg in kc 06-30-2005 09:38 PM

I thought it was entertaining. I've watched before, but not in a few years. Basically seemed like a middle ground between the NFL and NFLE.

Not sure if I'll have more opportunites to watch or not. It was on metrosports (local KC sports channel). Hopefully so.

leviw 06-30-2005 09:40 PM

It always a great opportunity to catch up on your favorite former-K-State quarterbacks too.

Logical 06-30-2005 09:42 PM

Oh thank god. I thought you were going to reveal you were some sort of hairy alien of both sexes.

Hammock Parties 06-30-2005 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
Oh thank god. I thought you were going to reveal you were some sort of hairy alien of both sexes.

XLIBUTSCRALE IS OFFENDED!

keg in kc 06-30-2005 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
Oh thank god. I thought you were going to reveal you were some sort of hairy alien of both sexes.

Well, I am hairy and a little weird, but I'm no hermaphrodite.

Rausch 06-30-2005 09:46 PM

I wish I could.

Any football is better than no football...

keg in kc 06-30-2005 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch
Any football is better than no football...

That was my mindset.

Frazod 06-30-2005 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch
I wish I could.

Any football is better than no football...

Seriously.

Next time, Kyle, tell us the damned thing's on before it's over.

keg in kc 06-30-2005 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod
Seriously.

Next time, Kyle, tell us the damned thing's on before it's over.

I don't know if it was on there. Was on a local cable channel here that's notorious for playing things days after they happen.

I think it shows on one of the Fox Sports digital channels on the weekend, but I don't get it.

Over-Head 07-01-2005 03:43 AM

Here's a schedule:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/football/cf.../schedule.html

Here's a league preview:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/indepth/2005cflpreview/

keg in kc 07-01-2005 04:40 AM

What I saw was a TSN broadcast, rather than CBC. And it may have been live, it was the Edmonton/Winnipeg game.

Metrosports is replaying it this afternoon at 2:30. Then Saturday morning at 7 (and again at 3 pm) they're showing a replay of tonight's Toronto/Calgary game. And then noon they're showing a replay of Montreal/Ottawa. And then at ten they're showing Saskatchewan/Hamilton.

I guess metrosports this weekend is the CFL channel, with both TSN and CBC coverage. Which is great, gives me something to watch other than the Royals.

Over-Head 07-01-2005 05:23 AM

There's a "Canada Day" double headder tonight starting at:
6pm eastern Montreal vs Ottawa
and
9pm Eastern Toronto vs Calgary

http://www.cfl.ca/

htismaqe 07-01-2005 05:25 AM

HOORAY FOR DOUG FLUTIE!

Over-Head 07-01-2005 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc
What I saw was a TSN broadcast, rather than CBC. And it may have been live, it was the Edmonton/Winnipeg game.

Metrosports is replaying it this afternoon at 2:30. Then Saturday morning at 7 (and again at 3 pm) they're showing a replay of tonight's Toronto/Calgary game. And then noon they're showing a replay of Montreal/Ottawa. And then at ten they're showing Saskatchewan/Hamilton.

I guess metrosports this weekend is the CFL channel, with both TSN and CBC coverage. Which is great, gives me something to watch other than the Royals.


The rules in CFL aren't too much different that NFL.
The biggest being 3 down's as opposed to 4, and I love the "no fair catch rule"
That’s right, send some of them NFL special return men up here and watch what happens when they start waving their arm around.
No dice baby, as long as the receiver has 5 yards around him at initial contact of reception, he's fair game.:evil:

Another noticeable thing is that we do have are share of "superstars" in the CFL; we don't have half the ego's the NFL does. :shake:
Sure has been an insurgence of NFL players come up here to play this year though. Almost makes a person wonder :hmmm:

Over-Head 07-01-2005 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
HOORAY FOR DOUG FLUTIE!

http://www.123people.net/f/flutie_do...-biography.htm

Doug Flutie (born October 23, 1962) is an American football and a former Canadian football (CFL) quarterback. He is the older brother of the CFL's all-time reception leader Darren Flutie. He has an autistic son, Doug Flutie Jr. in whose name a foundation has been established.

College career

Flutie played football for Boston College from 1981 to 1984, and won the Heisman Trophy in his senior year. He first gained national attention in a back-and-forth game in 1984 against the University of Miami, quarterbacked by Bernie Kosar. This game was on national television the day after Thanksgiving and thus had a huge audience. Miami had just staged a dramatic drive to take the lead, 45-41, in the closing minute of the game. Boston College had possession at their 22-yard line with 28 seconds to go. After two passes to move the ball another 30 yards, only six seconds remained on the clock. On the last play of the game, Flutie threw a Hail Mary pass caught in the end zone by Gerard Phelan, giving BC the victory. The play essentially clinched Flutie's win of the Heisman Trophy.

Flutie would leave school as the NCAA’s all-time passing yardage leader with 10,579 yards, and was a consensus All-American as a senior. He earned Player of the Year awards from UPI, Kodak, The Sporting News and the Maxwell Football Club.

Professional career

Doug Flutie started his professional career in the United States Football League (USFL) with the New Jersey Generals. After the USFL folded, Flutie signed with the NFL's Chicago Bears. He later went to the New England Patriots.

Although his Canadian football career lasted only eight years, Doug Flutie is perhaps the greatest quarterback ever to play Canadian football. In 1990 Flutie signed with the British Columbia Lions for a two-year contract reportedly worth $350,000 a season. At the time he was the highest paid CFL player in the league (although it was lower than the salary earned by the Montreal Alouettes' quarterback Vince Ferragamo in 1981). In his first season Flutie struggled at the Canadian game and his offensive line gave him little help. The following year, however, Flutie shone and was rewarded in free agency one year later with a reported million dollar a year salary with the Calgary Stampeders. At this point in time Flutie's salary was overshadowed by another big name Raghib Ismail of the Toronto Argonauts, who had the highest yearly salary in gridiron football in history at the time.

Flutie as a Calgary Stampeder won his first Grey Cup in 1992. He would go on to win two more Grey Cups with the Toronto Argonauts before signing with the Buffalo Bills of the National Football League in 1998.

His career CFL statistics include 41,355 passing yards and 270 touchdowns in 8 seasons. He holds the professional football record with 6,619 yards passing in a single season.

Flutie's success in the National Football League coupled with the revoking of the "marquee player" exemption in the Canadian Football League's salary cap, which allowed one player to be exempt from counting against the CFL's salary cap on each team, resulted in a string of star quarterbacks leaving the CFL and going to the NFL, such as Jeff Garcia and Dave Dickenson, as well as some players who showed some future potential such as Henry Burris.

Doug Flutie became the Buffalo Bills' starting quarterback when the Bills started the 1998 season 1-3. In his first start as a Bill, he passed for 2 TDs and led a 4th quarter comeback against the Indianapolis Colts, on October 11, 1998. The following week, Flutie scored the winning touchdown against the Jacksonville Jaguars by rolling out on a naked bootleg to enter the endzone, just as time expired. The Bills' success continued with Flutie at the helm, as his record as a starter that season was 8-3. The Bills were eliminated in the first round by the Dolphins, giving Flutie his only loss against both Jimmy Johnson and Dan Marino. Flutie was selected to play in the 1998 Pro Bowl.

After leading the Bills to a 10-5 record in 1999, Flutie was rested for the final game. Replacement Rob Johnson played well against Indianapolis' 19th ranked pass defense, and in a controversial decision, was awarded the starting job by coach Wade Phillips. The Bills lost 22-16.

In 2000, Flutie was named the Bills backup, and would only play late in games, or when Johnson was injured. However, Rob Johnson averages the most sacks per dropbacks in the history of the NFL, and was injured vs. the Chargers in overtime. Flutie moved the offence downfield for the gamewinning field goal. Fittingly, it was on the Bills' annual 'Canada Day.' The Bills were now 3-3. The Bills won 3 of the next 4 with Flutie, losing only to the 6-0 Vikings. Johnson would return from injury and Flutie was once more the backup. In his final game as a Buffalo Bill, Flutie completed 20 of 25 passes, for 366 yards, and 3 TDs.

Under the NFL's 158.3 point passer rating system, Flutie threw a perfect game.

In 2001 Flutie signed with the San Diego Chargers, who went 1-15 in 2000. After opening 3-0, the Chargers slumped and were 4-2 going into Week 7, when Flutie's Chargers met Rob Johnson's Bills. Johnson took advantage of the weak Charger defense and passed for 310 yards with 1 TD and 1 interception, and ran for 67 yards and 1 TD. (The Chargers are the only team Johnson has passed for 300 yards against.) However, "Flutie Magic" prevailed as the new ex-Bill broke a sack attempt and ran 13 yards for the game-winning touchdown. San Diego would finish 5-11, while the Bills finished 3-13. Flutie was Drew Brees' backup in 2002.

In 2003, Flutie replaced a struggling Brees when the Chargers were 1-7. The 41 year-old became the oldest player to score two rushing touchdowns in a game, the first player over 40 to accomplish that feat. He also became the oldest AFC Offensive Player of the Week, winning the award for the fourth time. Flutie's record as starter that year was 2-3.

Doug Flutie is also something of a figure of national pride to Canadians and Canadian expatriates, and has been the subject of a song by Moxy Früvous.

Flutie's 1984 Hail Mary pass, and the subsequent rise in applications for admission to Boston College, gave rise to the admissions phenomenon known as the "Flutie Factor." This idea essentially states that a winning sports team can increase the recognition value of a university enough to make it a more elite school.

Accolades and Highlights:

COLLEGE:

Winner of the 1984 Heisman Trophy as the outstanding player in all of college football — set the all-time major college career passing record (10,579 yards), and the all-time major college career total offense record (11,054 yards) en route to this honor.


First Team All-American selection as voted in consensus by the Associated Press, the United Press International, Kodak (American College Football Coaches Association), the Walter Camp Foundation, The Sporting News, and the Football Writers Association of America.

Named to United Press International and Sporting News’ “Player of the Year” honors.

Selected as Captain of the Kodak All-American squad and winner of the prestigious Maxwell Club Trophy as the nation’s premier player.

Two touchdown passes on fourth-down plays, which lead the Eagles to a 38-31 comeback win over the Alabama Crimson Tide at Birmingham.

A record-setting six touchdown passes in a 52-20 romp over North Carolina.

Pitched for four touchdowns against Western Carolina and had three scoring tosses in the games against Rutgers, Army and Holy Cross.

Connected on 34 of 46 aerials without an interception, for 472 yards against Miami, and recorded his best yardage output of the year. This also represented the highest full-game percentage of his career.

Has passed for more yards against a single opponent than any other player in college history: 1,420 vs. Penn State Nittany Lions (135 in his first freshman game, 520 in 1982, 380 in 1983, and 447 in 1984).



CFL:

Only player in CFL history to win four consecutive Most Outstanding Player of the Year awards.

Also received this honor for a fifth and sixth time in 1996 and 1997.

All-Canadian Quarterback: 1991-1994, 1996, 1997.

Three Grey Cup Championships: 1992, 1996, 1997.

Three-time Grey Cup Most Valuable Player: 1992, 1996, 1997.

First CFL player to throw for 6,000 yards in a season (both 1991 and 1993).

Six-time Canadian All-Star Team: 1991-1994, 1996, 1997.

Posted a 21-10 record from 1998-2000 as quarterback for the Buffalo Bills.

Comeback Player of the Year: 1998-1999 NFL Season.

Pro Bowl Selection: 1998-1999 NFL Season.



NFL:

478 Pass Attempts in 1999

294 Pass Completions in 2001

3464 Passing Yards in 2001

20 Passing Touchdowns in 1998

88 Rushing Attempts in 1999

476 Rushing Yards in 1999

21 Completions for 260 Yards and 1 TD in 1998 Playoffs against Buffalo

KCTitus 07-01-2005 06:02 AM

Whew...that's nothing.

For a minute there, when I clicked on the topic, I thought you were going to say you like the Chiefs chances this year or something really nutty like that.

Thank goodness.

keg in kc 07-01-2005 06:06 AM

If I ever say anything that silly, it's time for the Betty Ford Clinic.

ct 07-01-2005 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviw
It always a great opportunity to catch up on your favorite former-K-State quarterbacks too.

ROFL

Agree w/ previous replies, sometimes you gotta feed that football fix with whatever you can. Hey, what the he!! are we doin here? I've even resorted to watching an Arena game on TV, albeit breifly.

Did you see any players you knew?

Frankie 07-01-2005 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc
I have an embarrasing admission to make.

I just watched a canadian football game.

I hope you can all forgive me.

Did your mom never tell you your eyes will grow hair if you watch CFL?

Pennywise 07-01-2005 08:18 AM

Quick joke.
 
Why do Canadians like doggystyle the best?





So both of them can watch the hockey game.

Ultra Peanut 07-01-2005 07:42 PM

Sweet comeback by Ottawa tonight, eh?

Ultra Peanut 07-01-2005 07:45 PM

GO STAMPS!

Bowser 07-01-2005 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Psicosis
Sweet comeback by Ottawa tonight, eh?

Yah, Babe Ruth!

mcan 07-01-2005 08:01 PM

We watched a game a little while ago over at my parents' house. Can't remember who was playing, and we were only half watching. But since it was a slightly goldish colored team against a green and white team, we pretended it was the Eagles and the Saints...

Ultra Peanut 07-01-2005 08:12 PM

Wow. Toronto Argonauts receiver Robert Baker just got into a fight with someone... his own teammate... a kicker. K/P Noel Prefontaine, to be precise (the super-astute among us will, of course, remember his short stint with the Chiefs during an offseason a couple of years ago, along with fellow former LA Xtreme kicker Jose Cortez). Baker actually threw a punch and knocked Prefontaine's hat off.

So, yeah, everything went crazy on the sideline, then the Argos scored a touchdown during the brouhaha.

Prefontaine's lip was bleeding as he went out to kick off. ROFL

Deberg_1990 07-01-2005 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc
I just watched a canadian football game.

I hope you can all forgive me.


Nothing to be ashamed of. Now if you would have said something like "I loved Vince McMahon's XFL!!" I would have been worried!

Ultra Peanut 07-01-2005 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990
Nothing to be ashamed of. Now if you would have said something like "I loved Vince McMahon's XFL!!" I would have been worried!

Supanegrepbomb in five, four, three...

Ultra Peanut 07-01-2005 08:18 PM

On a serious note, anyone who considers themselves to be a football fan while trashing "lesser" leagues can go **** themselves with a rusty rake.

Rooting for a team in a "better" league gives you no superiority points, and is basically the same as a Pats fan going around throwing insults at Cardinals fans.

The only thing mocking leagues like the CFL and XFL (God rest its poor, abused soul; **** you, NBC, **** you, Ebersol, and **** you, McMahon) does is prove you're not a football fan so much as you're a football snob. And really, "snob" is too nice a word to use.

milkman 07-01-2005 08:18 PM

It's OK overhead......er.......Keg.

Ultra Peanut 07-01-2005 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SideWinder
It's OK overhead......er.......Keg.

Step off, ya hoser!

HAPPY CANADA DAY, EVERYONE!

Deberg_1990 07-01-2005 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psicosis
On a serious note, anyone who considers themselves to be a football fan while trashing "lesser" leagues can go **** themselves with a rusty rake.

Rooting for a team in a "better" league gives you no superiority points, and is basically the same as a Pats fan going around throwing insults at Cardinals fans.

The only thing mocking leagues like the CFL and XFL (God rest its poor, abused soul; **** you, NBC, **** you, Ebersol, and **** you, McMahon) does is prove you're not a football fan so much as you're a football snob. And really, "snob" is too nice a word to use.


Whoa, i didnt expect such hostility!

Ultra Peanut 07-01-2005 08:27 PM

The XFL was FUN. The bitterly cold home opener against Las Vegas, the awesome comeback against Chicago (shame it was only the NBC B-game that week) in which Druck replaced the awful Crandell and carried the team on his back to victory, the last game against LA, hoping against hope that things would work out to get Memphis into the playoffs but still enjoying the win and looking forward to next season even if things didn't work out... sigh.

When I got season tickets, I initially scoffed, but once I experienced it, I grew to downright love it.

If it hadn't been run (into the ground) by utter morons, it could have been a viable league and would have survived, at least for more than one damn season. The product on the field was far better than it got credit for, but since everyone and their grandmother was blasting the league for a year before it began, it never really got a chance.

Deberg_1990 07-01-2005 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Psicosis
The XFL was goddamned FUN. The Bitterly cold home opener against Las Vegas, the awesome comeback against Chicago (shame it was only the NBC B-game that week) in which Druck replaced the awful Crandell and carried the team on his back to victory, the last game against LA, hoping against hope that things would work out to get Memphis into the playoffs but still enjoying the win and looking forward to next season even if things didn't work out... sigh.

If it hadn't been run (into the ground) by utter morons, it could have been a viable league and would have survived, at least for more than one damn season. The product on the field was far better than it got credit for, but since everyone and their grandmother was blasting the league for a year before it began, it never really got a chance.

I didnt care for how they tried to make it like "Monday Night RAW" They had the players trash talk during the pregame introductions, "He Hate Me" sleazy cheerleaders, etc.....

Ultra Peanut 07-01-2005 08:32 PM

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I didnt care for how they tried to make it like "Monday Night RAW" They had the players trash talk during the pregame introductions, "He Hate Me" sleazy cheerleaders, etc.....

Everything you mentioned, except the nicknames, dragged down the league and gave the people who hated it the bullets they needed to shoot it.

The pre-game scramble for the ball was fun, most of the rule tweaks were good for the game, the X-cam (now skycam) was innovative (as evidenced by the fact that this "stupid gimmick," as it was called when the XFL introduced it, is being used on stuff like Monday Night Football and the Super Bowl now) -- especially once the TV producers figured out it was best used for replays and NOT live-action about a third of the way through the season -- and the camera guys on the field were so unnoticeable that I actually didn't even remember them until writing about the X-cam.

As for the nicknames... MONEY!

milkman 07-01-2005 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990
I didnt care for how they tried to make it like "Monday Night RAW" They had the players trash talk during the pregame introductions, "He Hate Me" sleazy cheerleaders, etc.....

Hey.....I liked the sleazy cheerleaders!


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