Ty Law : To the Jets, it's over.
 

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Ty Law has agreed to a multiyear deal with the New York Jets on Sunday, his publicist Elita Lee, told the New York Times on Sunday.

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The Jets had reached an agreement in principle on most of the major components of a deal with the free-agent cornerback, sources told ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli. However, there remained some financial sticking points and tricky contract language to iron out after negotiating sessions on Thursday and Friday.

Law, who has spent the offseason rehabilitating from a left foot injury that limited him to seven games in 2004, also must pass a physical examination.

The contract is expected to be for at least three years and could average $6 million per season, sources told ESPN.com. On paper, the contract might well be longer in term, but it is generally agreed that, for practical purposes, both sides anticipate that Law will play three seasons. What will be the most interesting element in the deal is its structure because the Jets must protect themselves against injuries or the possibility that Law is not yet 100 percent.

New York has stayed in touch with Law and his agents for the past few months, and the retirement of veteran corner Donnie Abraham two weeks ago left the Jets in need of a replacement.

A healthy Law would be a high-profile addition and help compensate for the exit of Abraham, who retired to spend more time with his family and to pursue a number of business opportunities.

Law is said to have great admiration for Jets coach Herm Edwards, a superior salesman and recruiter, and the two have spoken at various times in the offseason. Law has also gotten sales pitches from Jets tailback Curtis Martin and secondary coach Corwin Brown, both of whom were onetime teammates of his in New England. He also has a 5-year-old daughter who lives in New York.

Law, 31, last year turned down a four-year, $24 million offer from New England, which released him in February for salary cap reasons. He had been adamant this offseason about not accepting a minimum-salary contract and has publicly stated he wants a deal commensurate to his status as a four-time Pro Bowl performer. Privately, though, Law has conceded to confidants that he understands he will probably not land a contract that meets all his demands. It appears the Jets will pay him a signing bonus of at least $5 million as part of his deal

It ain't over.

He's gotta pass a physical.

I blame Nick Athan.

I wonder what Steve Young has to say about Ty Law's "love" for the game and not money.

Well that's true, but he will be a Jet.
All of this Chiefs talk can die.

PBJ

He'll look real good sitting on the bench at Arrowhead in a green uniform. I'm still betting he won't be ready Week 1.

This is true, The Jets are banking on him to be healthy by week 3 or 4 and the long run.......

hello, jets fan here. guarantee you are wrong on this one. he WILL be our starting cb and he'll be shutting down your passing game come sept 11!

ROFL

pown!!1!!!Rulz!!!u!!

why's that funny? which of your wr's is going to be able to fight the law?

Priest and Larry will probably combine for 400 yards that day. I wouldn't worry about the WRs.

For your sake, you better hope that Rascal doesn't break down. http://www.discountscooters.co.uk/im...rascal-245.jpg

Fighting the Law would be a 15-yard penalty and probable ejection. There's no reason the Chiefs WR's should be on the New York sideline messing with Law.

That's fine. Shut down Kennison. But, is Law going to cover Gonzalez and Holmes too?

I wouldn't be worried about shutting down KC's passing game. I'd be more concerned about keep the running game under 250 total yards.

Good luck.

Doesn't matter who they throw at Law. No one shuts down the Chiefs passing game. Hell they don't even have to throw at Law. And if he plays they probably won't. And you know what's the beautiful part of it is? We have some of the leagues shittiest receivers. ROFL Al Saunders passing game is a thing of beauty to behold. And Green runs it to perfection. Imagine the numbers the Chiefs could rack up if we had some premier WR's?? It's all based on playing fast and timing. :thumb:

Guys, if our WR's don't step up, Ty Law COULD cover Tony Gonzales...

Am I the only person that remembers the first Denver game last year?

As for them keeping our running game in check, they do have Vilma in the middle.

Let's not cound our chickens before they hatch.

Yeah.... We've taken out better, younger, healthier CBs.
*COUGH*
12-19-2004
*/COUGH*

I would've loved to have had Ty Law, but considering what they're paying him I'm glad we don't.

actually we have mcgraw to do that. just ask antonio gates how many passes he caught with mrgaraw on him. btw, im not saying its going to be an easy game, cause its not. i just think its going to come down to who has the more dominant defense, and i think we come out on top in that case. btw, if you guys want to talk some football at our site come onto www.jetsinsider.com .

Sadly, it isn’t over...
 

If you think it has nothing to do with our offense, you'll be in for a surprise.

And that's why I like to keep my smack relevant.

If you HONESTLY think that Ty Law is going to contribute significantly to your defense being "dominant" in Week 1, I think you're going to be sorely disappointed.

thats not what i meant. i meant that i think our defense will shut down your offense enough so that our offense will outscore you. in other words i dont think your defense will be able to keep our offense from outscoring yours. base solely on the fact that i think our defense will keep your offense in check. of course you're going to see it the other way around, and i already said i dont think its going to be ab easy game. but if you trhink youre going to put 35 points on us i think you're going to be in for a surprise. my prediction: jets win 24-17.

We may not put 35 up, but we're gonna score more than 17. Bank on it.

Hello, Chiefs fan here. No he will not shut down our passing game. Ty Law will not be as fast as he was in the beginning of last season. He relies on the 5 yard bump rule. Remember they made that rule strictly because of what he did in the 2003 AFC Championship game vs. the Colts. He's gonna get flagged all game long for having to hold on to WR's who are blowing by him. I doubt he has the confidence to go full speed either, especially when he knows he's gonna get hit.

Don't get me wrong though, I would have liked to have Ty Law, but only for a reasonable price. Law at 80% is better than any CB on our staff opposite of Surtain. The Jets probably paid him way more money than he's actually worth and he won't be around for another 3 years I bet. He just wanted his last paycheck before he retires because he already has the Super Bowl rings. What else does he need to prove other than that he wants the most he can get money wise before he hangs then up.

If Law gets hurt during the season. I will congrats Carl Peterson for not signing him. As far as you guys stopping our passing game, aint gonna happen. Sleeper WR = Craphonso Thorpe. He is gonna be a dangerous deep threat I bet this season. By next season, teams will have to account for his presence on the field.

but it is relevant. lets say law shuts down kennison, thats one guy we basically dont have to worry about. if law can be put on an island with your #1 receiver and shut him down, it opens up our defense for a lot more blitzing. and our front 7 is VERY GOOD! also, fwiw, barrett is no slouch either. he totally eliminated plaxico burress form the game in the play-offs. so im betting he can take on your #2 receiver. that leaves alot of options for us to cover gonzalez. don't forget we have vilma also.

In 2001, Vermeil's first season, the Chiefs were held to less than 20 points 8 times.

Since then, they've scored less than 20 points 11 times...in 48 games. They've been held to 17 points or less just 9 times.

We play teams whose corners can shut down our wideouts every week, and the offense is still at or near the top of the league in scoring. Adding a shutdown corner doesn't change much when the chumps you were starting before could do the job just as well.

Law isn't even going to see the field Week 1, let alone shut someone down.

Honestly, I would be willing to bet we score more than 24. If our offensive chemistry is high, it will surpass 35 points.

Who's better......Vilma or Ray Lewis? Because I could have sworn that last year the Ravens were gonna shut our running game down and our entire O-line (especially Waters) made Uncle Ray Ray look like a little girl on the field. I remember Ray Lewis being mic'd up for that MNF game and you could tell by his noises, actions, etc., that he was really frusturated. If we can keep Ray Lewis in check, we can most definitely keep Vilma in check.

Didn't we beat the Jets a couple a seasons ago? IMO I dont think the Jets have gotten all that better. We had a shitty defense back then and this year we have GREAT speed and much more talent than in 2002. WE WILL SHUT DOWN CURTIS MARTIN!

The Jets defense we beat was 14th in the NFL in points against and 24th in yards allowed.

Last year's Jets defense was 4th in points against and 7th in yards allowed.

They're SIGNIFICANTLY better than the last time we faced them.

For every Ray Lewis, there's an Al Wilson.

Our offense CAN be stopped. It's just too bad that the Jets won't be able to use Ty Law to do it.

I suppose the Falcons front 7 are total slouchs? how many points did the chiefs put on them? 56!!!!!

As far as putting Kennison on an Island, feel free. We have Hall, Parker, Holmes, Richardson, Gonzalez, Wilson, Dunn, Johnson as other more than viable targets. As for stopping the run, take a look at our Oline, plus Richardson, Plus gonzalez. I dont care how good your front 7 is, they can be nullified.

I wont go that far.

I wouldn't be worrying about what Law's going to do on Sept. 11th, Jet fans. Your noodle-armed QB is a bigger issue right now.

You'll be owned at Arrowhead just the same way we owned you at the Meadlowlands a couple of years ago.

yeah but this isnt the 2003 version of the jets defense. out defense now is the total package. just look at last years stats. #4 in points per game allowed. #5 in total rushing yards allowed. we were middle of the pack in total passing yards allowed, but our secondary is much improved over last years version. we were #7 in total defense. we also had like 6 second half shut outs last year. your offense is going to be in for quite a test at arrowhead on the 11th. i'm just saying its not going to be a cake-walk for you guys, so be ready for a fight!

How is your secondary "much improved"?

ok, just remember this. i'll be here to take my licks if this in fact comes true. BUT remeber i'll also be her to dish it out when we OWN you.

When?

That should be "if".

easily, we improved at cornerback and at safety.

Listen Necklicker, 24-17 is no owning, you wont be here to take your licks, and we will score more than 24 points on you. Clear? Good.

Who did you sign at CB?

And at Safety, you're just going to assume that a couple of 2nd-year players will step up their play this year?

Can I crown our Dline the best in the NFL too?

why you getting hostile? i have been saying all along that it will be a hard fought game and that i think we will come out on top though. and I WILL come back either way. i'm not here to be a troll, just want to debate whose team will win.

Well, dont expect to come to this website, talking smack about how you are going to own us and not receive some smack back. There is no hostility. As for your trolldom--Like your 2nd year safety, yet to be decided.

You want to debate whose team will win? I guess I missed the part where you said "Who's team do you think will win?" Maybe I was too busy reading the "we will OWN you" stuff...

The Jets do have a good defense. A very good defense. However, I just don't see how they have enough to effectively hold KC to 17 points, on opening day, at Arrowhead.

Realistically, I see KC winning this game, not easily, but by a comfortable margin; 7 points or so. The offense will most likely rack up about 28+ points. If all things are clicking, expect 35+.

My prediction is 28-21.

well for one we signed ty law. we also drafted justin miller who is immensely talented and ha sbeen ripping it up at camp thus far. we also have a player named derek strait who is a pretty good nickel/dime back. at safety we have eric coleman who came in and pretty much excelled inhis starting role last year. we got rid of reggie tongue and mcgraw is healthy. we also have 2 draftees in rhodes and maddox who are incredibly gifted athletes and have been making big plays in camp so far.

well i came in and said law will be out there helping shut down your passing game. just a little fun jab to get the debate going. i didnt say anything about "owning" until nytefyre called me neck-licker (whatever that means) and started with it.

honestly if you can realistically expect the chiefs to score around 30 points on our defense then you are setting yourslef up for a disappointment. not saying it isnt possible, but its going to take a few turnovers to go your way for that to happen, and the jets are one of the best in the takeaway.giveaway category. not to mention one of the least penalized teams in the league.

Another view.

Law In, Mickens Out
By Sean M. Deegan
Publisher, JetsInsider.com
sdeegan@jetsinsider.com August 8th, 2005

Jets Head Coach Herm Edwards officially announced this morning that the team has agreed in principal to a long term deal with All-Pro CB Ty Law. To make room for Law the team released 10 year veteran CB Ray Mickens. Law is at Hofstra completing a physical this morning and could be introduced to the media as early as this afternoon. Details of his contract are not yet known. Mickens, who was coming back from an injured knee suffered last year was used mainly as a nickel back during his Jet career and was expected to take over as the Jets starting left cornerback due to the retirement of former starter Donnie Abraham earlier this summer. In addition to Mickens, the team also announced the release of S Derek Pagel, G Dave Yovanovits, RB Delvin Joyce and CB Roosevelt Williams.

Well, if were going on speculation, our D will be number one next year because Mitchell, and Derrick Johnson, and Kendrell Bell, and Pat Surtain, and Sammy Knight, and Carlos Hall, Make our defense a top 10, paired with the number one offense. then, Allen will inherently improve, along with sims, dalton, and browning.

First of all, let me remind you of a minor, somewhat trivial issue:

YOU HAVE NOT SIGNED TY LAW.

The 2 parties have agreed, in principle, to a deal that it contingent on Law passing a physical. There's a better-than-good chance that Law CANNOT pass a physical.

Justin Miller is immensely talented. He also isn't the most disciplined person in the world. He could be a big boom, or a big bust. The fact that you're counting on him says alot already.

Derek Strait is as good a nickel back as Benny Sapp. Who, you ask? Exactly.

Coleman and McGraw are ok. They're also very young. Coleman (his name is Erik with a K, by the way) may be more athletic than Tongue, but Tongue's experience should not be discounted...more on that later.

2 draftees - translation - 2 guys that may or may not make it out of training camp.

Tongue is gone, Abraham retired, and now you've released Mickens...you have a rookie and several 2nd-year players in your secondary. No veteran leadership whatsoever. You MIGHT have gotten Law, which will help. Lack of leadership like that is a recipe for disaster.

Yeah, maybe you missed the part about our whole best offense in the nfl.... Your defense is good, Ill give you that. But no defense can shutdown the Chiefs when they are on. And I didnt call you a necklicker til you said own. Get your facts straight.

One of the best in the takeaway/giveaway category...with Donnie Abraham, Mickens, and Reggie Tongue.

Losing a starting S, CB, and NCB shouldn't be so lightly dismissed.

He selectively forgot this:

hello, jets fan here. guarantee you are wrong on this one. he WILL be our starting cb and he'll be shutting down your passing game come sept 11!

Hey, necklicker, we faced three defenses better than you last year a total of four times. Twice we were really out of sync.
Broncos:24 (out of sync)
Baltimore: 27
Tampa Bay: 31 (Out of Sync)
Broncos: 45
For those of us keeping score, thats an average of 31.5 ppg. :hmmm:

2004 Jets regular season... 10-6

The 10 wins...

49ers 2-14
Fish 4-12
Fish 4-12
Browns 4-12
Cards 6-10
Texans 7-9
Bengals 8-8
Bills 9-7
Seahawk 9-7
Chargers 12-4

After a 5-0 start, the Jets were 5-6 the rest of the way. So while I am concerned with the first game, the Jets are a bit overrated IMO.

Chiefs offense vs. top 10 defenses:

2002 - #10 Cleveland (40 pts), #4 Miami (48 pts)
2003 - #5 Buffalo (38 pts), #9 Denver (24 and 27 pts)
2004 - #4 Denver (24 and 45 pts), #6 Baltimore (27 pts), #9 Tampa (31 pts)

And just for good measure, Atlanta had one of the best, if not the best, run defense in the league last season, and KC destroyed them to the tune of 8 rushing touchdowns.

The Chiefs, since 2002, have only been held to under 20 points 11 times in 3 years. And only under 17 points on 4 occasions.

Good luck.

you really think we would have released ray mickens if law isn't going to be a jet? its money in the bank. hes a jet and hes healthy. im not counting on miller to be a starting cb, but the guy is a big talent. and he is going to be making plays in the nickel/dime for us this year, you 'll see. there is no drop off from strait to mini-me mickens in the nickelback postion. coleman and mcgraw are ok? thats quite an understatement, mcgraw may be injury prone but if he satys healthy the guy is a dominant safety. like i said he shut down antonio gates, and that saying something. coleman, as a rookie, had 73 tackles, 4 interceptions, 2 sacks, and 9 passes defensed last year. those are pretty nice stats, expect at least that from him this year. tongue was a disappointment last year, plain and simple. its addition by subtraction. and the 2 draftees have a TON of upside. one of which we actually traded up to grab. and they are doing nothing but making plays in TC. you can expect them to make the team this year, and contribute.

ROFL

2004 Chiefs regular season.......7-9

what ur point?

we made it within one shitty place kicker of the afc championship game.
where were the chiefs?

Week 1 he's gonna get burned.

Blah blah blah. Like we couldnt have kicked the fins, browns and 9ers around. Get a real schedule.

Why do people go to another team's board, run smack about how their new benchweight is going to kick our arses, and expect people to be hospitable? Of course you're going to get slapped down. You came onto Chiefs turf and started showing your arse.

By the way, after watching the Jets O put up a whopping 10 points on the Browns D last year, I think our defense can handle it. Quincy Carter or no.

ROFL

i dont care if you're hospitable or not, i was just making a point that the man was getting all testy. possibly to due to bitterness of not getting law for your own team. oh and, fwiw, ur comparing a game in which we had an already unimaginative OC calling a watered down version of his already watered down play-book for a coke-head qb. makes alot of sense! no to mention the fact that we have coles back and a tight end that can catch now. our offense is alot different than what you saw in cleveland.

We know all about Paul Hackett in KC. Go to hell for reminding us. As for me getting ticked off, I havent yet, but youre trying my patience. YOU initiated smack. Dont expect us to sit here and take it necklicker.

Thanks for making my point. Your entire premise (that your going to shut down an offense that NOBODY else in the NFL has figured out) is based on nothing but what-ifs.

1) You're banking that Law can play from Day 1 before he's even passed a physical. Wish in one hand, shit in the other...

2) You're banking on Justin Miller and Derek Strait to make plays at the nickel. Miller is a rookie with some head issues, Strait is a situational player. Neither of them is proven.

3) McGraw is injury prone and you admit it. That right there is a question mark. I don't care if the guy is Ronnie Lott, if he's not on the field, he's not doing jack. He shut down Gates ONE TIME. It could be a fluke.

4) Coleman had a great rookie season. It was just that, a rookie season. Lots of guys have great rookie seasons and then fall off. That's why they call it a "sophomore slump". Again, it was one season. Can he do it again this year? Maybe. But until he does it more than one season, you've got nothing but hope.

5) Draftees with upside don't win games. Sorry.

Everything you've just told me is 100% speculation. Your defense was stout last year. And this year they're counting on several young players to step up and replace what was lost.

And I didn't even mention the gaping hole in your argument.

You're ASSUMING that Ty Law will be ready and will start. You're EXPECTING Justin Miller and Derek Strait to make plays at nickel.

Who are you expecting to start at the other CB spot?

Oh yeah, Coles. Isn't he that guy who only caught 1 touchdown last year?

Besides, IF Law is healthy, all your points about him apply equally to Surtain. Surtain > Coles

I'm still waiting....

Tick, tick, tick...

I think the Jet fan should be more worried about the fact that Thier Starting QB will be sitting on the sideline With Law, than the fact that Law won't be in shape, hasn't passed a physical or played in a snap in a year.

Right now, Jetfan....your QB's arm is weaker than your unmedicated erectile function.

"they are doing nothing but making plays in TC. you can expect them to contribute."
ROFL

I'll be hospitable.... welcome to the board, neckdemon.
Ok enough of that.
We don't get many Jets fans around here so I hate to see you get
scared away by my feisty Chiefs brethren. Do come back when the opener gets done. We just love it when we get to watch our rival fans eat that tasty crow!

The Jets signed William Bartee?

david barrett. he was a solid #1 cb for us last year. and is now going to be playing as our #2 cb.

No big point. Just the Jets had only 1 real quality regular season win at the Chargers last season. You guys were also 1 missed FG away from going home in the 1st round of the playoffs.

So while your team is on the upswing, I still think the Jets are a bit overrated.

CP: "Ill trade you Bartee for Coles, Herm."
Herm: "DONE!"