Who else thinks Perrera's got some 'splainin to do this week?
 

Can't wait to here what the head of officials has to say this week. I wasn't really rooting for either team just wanted to see a close game. It's bad enough Seattle left the win out on the field through their own poor execution but they seemed to be battling not only a road type atmosphere but the officiating that comes along with that. Many particular calls i'm interested in:

1. That pushoff call that took away Seattle's 1st TD (c'mon man that didn't interfere with the result of the play)
2. That questionable illegal block on Warricks long punt return (which I don't recall seeing on replay).
3. That bullshit holding call on Stevens long pass reception in the 4th Quarter in what perhaps should've been an offsides call instead.
4. That bullshit touchdown call on Roethlisbergers touchdown
5. That blatant holding call that wasn't called against Pittsburgh on one of Ben's scrambles for a first down in the 2nd half.
6. Another questionable holding call against Seattle in the 1st quarter that took away a completion inside the 20 on 2nd down and led to a punt.

edit: and a couple more I now remember:

7. That bullshit timeout that was awarded to pittsburgh in the 2nd half in what should've been a definite delay of game.
8. That 15 yd penalty against Hasselbeck for an illegal block in what was an obvious attempt at driving through a blocker for a tackle.
9. An obvious horsecollar tackle that wasn't called against Pittsburgh in the 2nd half.

Worst officiated Super Bowl I have ever witnessed....

What needs 'splainin' is why you are still allowed to post on this board.

No.

Seattle had a chance to take the lead and blew it.

Then their defense blew it.

Game over.

What about the hog tie tackle of Stevens a couple of plays after that BS holding call to get the ball to the 2 yard line?

Disagree..the refs screwed them out of taking the lead on a phantom O pass interference and a phantom holding call.

Not to mention the fact that their O was completely non-existant. Seattle looked flat. Period. They have noone to blame but themselves...

Besides... I thought it was illegal to make that kind of tackle anymore. Even though I've seen it done numerous times after the rule was put into effect, I've never seen it called.

Remember this? :hmmm: :hmmm:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2247517

The refs did not decide the game. It was 14-10 and then Seattle's defense gave up the long TD pass.

It was those two UT defensive players fault.

Seattle had chances to win that game and didn't... they had an INT deep in Pit territory and missed 2 FG's. I thought the PI call was ticky tack though for sure, which has been par for the course in these playoffs. Probably one of the worst officiated playoff seasons I can remember. I don't think it was quite Super Bowl quality officiating out there, but what can ya do.

There are few things funnier than a Broncos troll bitching about lopsided officiating.

Gift wrapped from the start.....

ROFL

No that O-PI that took away a TD had no bearing on the game or the phantom holding call that negated a 1st and goal on the 2 yd line. :rolleyes:

There will be ni splaining. The NFL got their 2 Billion for the game. They dont give a shit.

Shit man good call! There ya go. I'd forgotten all about that.

I wonder if Porter is going to personally thank the refs for giving the game... :hmmm:

That's the saddest part.

4. That bullshit touchdown call on Roethlisbergers touchdown

They could not overturn that. There was no evidence to do so. I believe it was the right call. The ball crossed the plane before he was hit and knocked back. Good call by the official on the field and looking at the replay.

The officials played no part what so ever in the who won this game. The Steelers deserve the win.

I personally thought it was a shitty call...To me the ball didn't touch anypart of the goal line. In the end I don't think that call is not that big of a deal, they could have gone for it on 4th down and probably would have scored the TD

The officials did decide the game, and I say that as someone who wanted the Steelers to win. Besides the examples already stated, Pittsburgh should've been penalized for delay of game with about 4 mins. left but was awarded a TO. The officials took points off the board for Seattle, and if that's not deciding who won the game, what is? It almost made me glad the Chiefs weren't there. I couldn't stand to be on the bad end of that. Imagine the Dallas game taking place during the SB.

I thought it crossed the plane before he was hit, but there was not enough evidence either way. Whatever was called on the field was going to stand with the shot they were showing.

You are right, they would have most likely scored any way.

WOW!!! I am assuming you watched the game at a bar? You should watch a tape. The officials played no part in the out come of this game. Seattle had chances and failed to capitalize. After you watch the tape I am sure you will understand.

Another *****ed up call.

In the first qtr... Jeremy Stevens fumbled the ball after taking 2 steps to turn around to go upfield. The dickheads prematurely blew the whistle and called it incomplete instead of a fumble.

I know it's against the grain but just another example of how poorly officiated this game was.

I hope that is your sarcastic tone because if it isn't you were stoned during the game. It was the worst officiated game I have ever seen in a SB...totally pathetic and embarrassing

Shut the fuck up....The man has a point, the officiating was horrid. Totally in favor of Pittsburgh.

There were a lot of questionable calls in that game. Its obvious who the NFL wanted to win.

If you don't like what he posts, then don't post yourself. Your post sucks, and it's cheap.

Yep really bad call as well..

I think the NFL needs to go back to the best officiating crew instead of the best officials. When you make these guys work with people they have never worked with before or for a long time I don't think it works out very well.

Yes, I was being sarcastic and probably not in a very good way. There were some problems, but the Steelers deserved the win in my opinion. I was not rooting for them in any way. The officials did not change the out come in my mind.

And this post of yours is better how? Go suck on your mommy's tit.

Nope, didn't watch it in a bar, and you haven't viewed the game on tape yet either since it hasn't been over that long. I'm guessing you aren't a neutral observer either. Do you think that Darnell Jackson did commit PI? If not, it took points off the board and factored into the outcome of the game. Same with the numerous other penalties. What on tape will be shown that wasn't seen on numerous replays? Should I keep rewinding and playing until it looks like a holding penalty occurred where there wasn't one?

-I've seen far worse pushoffs from the best receivers, i.e., Moss and get away with it. I agree that was bullsh*t.


-Didn't see the illegal block. I agree.


-Totally bullsh*t. Haggans jumped offsides, Locklear didn't hold em. that led to 50 yard FG miss by Brown.


-I disagree. That was a touchdown. The nose of the football barely touched the touched the goaline.

-I saw that. Yes that was Holding. Totally blown call.


-That was holding. I disagree.

I honestly do not feel it changed the out come of the game. The Seahawks had chances and did not take advantage of them. Mistakes in officiating were made, but it did not in any way affect the outcome. It is part of the game and always will be.

Whatever dude. Your an idiot.

You are using the word dude and I am the idiot?

Stephens dropped more balls than Johnnie Morton during testosterone martini night at the Lavendar Umbrella Men's Club.

So what?

You want me to call you a dumbass? Is that what you want? what do you want?

The holding call was very questionable, but the Offensive Pass Interference call was not. It was a little bit petty, because the infraction was a common and minor push-off, but the push-off was there, and it was still illegal no matter how many times refs generally let people get away with it. People push off like that all the time, and one of the best at it is our own Tony G, but it is still an illegal move, so there's not much point in complaining about an illegal move getting flagged.

The Steelers missed numerous opportunities also. That pick inside the 10 being the worst. If they had lost, we'd be talking about their slow start in the 1st quarter doing them in. Any game has missed opportunities by both teams. A game, particularly a Super Bowl, should never be decided by officials. And a penalty can kill a drive. They're getting paid too and asking for competency isn't really asking for much.

Shit. I know I'm an idiot and everything, but I didn't know I was an idiot because I use "dude" frequently.

Just two quick things on that one: 1) that one may well have worked for Seattle rather than against, as the pursuer who was about to pick up the ball abandoned the chase when they blew it dead, otherwise it would have been a fumble recovered by Pittsburgh. 2) it was a good call -- the receiver has to establish possession then get two steps down. He never had possession, as the replays showed, because the whole time he was turning he was juggling the ball and trying to tuck it in. He got hit before he got it tucked or under control, thus he lost it. Good call.

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It's not a bullsh*t call. It is always illegal for the receiver to push off the defender beyond 5 yards. The fact that the refs usually let them get away with it doesn't make it any less so.

I agree that PI isn't called on receivers nearly enough (and I was shocked when it was called on Moss playing at Oakland, no less). The problem is the DB for Pittsburgh had a hand on Jackson prior to that. Isn't that illegal contact, or whatever they're calling that crappy Marvin Harrison rule?

It was bullshit because the refs didn't call the defensive interference when the DB made contact with Jackson on the goal line during that play.

He let the DB put his hands on Jackson on the goal line, which should have been illegal contact. But then got stingy a few steps later when Jackson pushed off. If you're going to call a tight game, at least be consistent.

The most incredibly bad call had to be the penalty on Hasselback for tackling the ballcarrier on the interception return.

It would be hard to be a Seahawks fan today, seeing so many bad calls going aganst one team.

I was totally dumbfounded by that. How can they call blocking below the knees on a clear tackle??

:shake:

That was the worst officiated game I believe I have ever seen.

What the hell is a zero beat?

The officiating was definitely all in favor of Pittsburgh. Seattle still didn't deserve to win, though.

Especially just right after a missed horse collar. Let one ticky tack personal foul go then call another that didn't even happen. That was pretty rough... inconsistent at best.

I just have a tough time making that judgement considering that every big play that Seattle made was called back on iffy penalties... while several of the mistakes that Pittsburgh made were magically ignored...

The Zero Beat Time Out is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen in all of sports in all my life.

Maybe Seattle didn't deserve to win that game. However they made more plays than Pittsburg did, so now what? Pretty tough to win a game opportunities or not when it's 15 on 11, and the extra 4 are holdin the fuckin whistles. What really sucks is the game wasn't decided on the field. This super bowl was a fraud and if it went the other way I'd be here sayin the same thing believe it or don't.

That one was really bad. Then the announcers tried to make excuses for the ref claiming that he was called for making the block on the blocker rather than on the ball-carrier, though admittedly it could "technically" go either way, because the blocker and the ball-carrier were side-by-side, and he effectively knee-blocked both of them. But I'm pretty sure it was the ball-carrier he was going for.

Despite the bad officiating, there were a ton of failed opportunities on Seattle's side of the ball that didn't fail because of penalties, they failed because they simply didn't capitalize. Even without the officiating, the Seahawks killed their own game all night long.

Agreed how many dropped passes for 1st down did the Seahwks miss. Lost count afrer awhile. But like it or not bad officiating does cause some effect. How much we never know but there is one.

I can live with that. What I can't live with is if you take away just half of the bad calls against Seattle they win the game. Take them all away and it's a blowout. Let alone the momentum killing that goes into those bad calls. It's similar to the Chiefs Giants game earlier this year. There were so many horrible calls against the Chiefs early in the game, that they just looked deflated by the midway point of the 2nd quarter. It is what it is, I'm not going to continue lamenting over it. You have to admit though, that game would've been a lot better had it been FULLY decided by the teams involved, instead of the guys wearing half of Pittsburgs colors.

A horribly officiated postseason capped by the worst-officiated Super Bowl that I remember. (I only remember back to XXIII, though).

Well in that case..........there should be about 12 offensive PI's called per game. Also, Micheal Irvin should have about 10 catches in his career that count.

I did not get to watch the game past the half, but the PI in the endzone was correct... He stiffed arm the DB to get away, It might not have effected the play much but it was still a pushoff.. I get pissed that WR's get away with it that much.. If it was reversed, they would have flagged the DB... So the call was correct...

Now I do agree with Bens rushing TD.. He did not get in..

Roeth's TD was a TD. I don't understand complaining about that one.

Unless you grab or pushoff that is just incidental contact IMO... He was running his route back and forth and they tangle up, that is fine.. But when the ball is thrown he pushes off to get seperation.. It is a iffy call but it is the correct one.. It is not called enough unfortuneatly, and that is why we get all the complaining..

I did not see the ball cross the white line on the replays... HIs head did, but the ball did not cross that line from the sideline camera..

Yeah I won't argue that some calls could've changed the game but honestly pittsburgh would've won regardless. Seattle didn't play like the number one offense AT ALL they weren't even playing the same game as pittsburgh. True calls were blown and miscalled but Seattle didn't deserve the win and now everyone is gonna go off about the officiating like it can be changed now.... so starts a three month hiatus up until draft about refereeing :banghead:

Well come on now, this is the crew that penalized Hasselbeck for making a tackle.........

I just don't believe that. I was sitting there with a Seahawks buddy, and I was telling him, "Aw, come on man... Your guys have to bounce back from that stuff... And they kept bouncing back... And every time they did, they would get penalized on something stupid. And then the Steelers would do something that got totally overlooked, like call a timeout AFTER the clock had ticked zero, or horse collar tackle a rusher for no penalty.

I honestly believe in a fairly called game, Seattle would have won this game.

When I think of the letter that Joe Seahawk posted about how much a lucky ticket lottery winning Seahawk fan would pay to go and see the game, you have to say that the one thing every team and fan "deserve" is a fairly officated game.

There is no way to say that one team "deserved" to win when there were so many momentum changing bad calls in the game.

As much money as fans shell out to root their team on, that was horrible officiating.

It would have been interesting to see if any Steeler would have recovered the ball before it went out of bounds if the official was not blowing the whistle.

Seahawks could have challenged that play, and if the play was overturned they would have benefitted from the bad call on that play because they would have credit for the catch and the Steelers would have been denied their opportunity to recover the fumble.

That was another bad call, but unlike all of the other crap calls, that was reviewable and the Seahawks failed to challenge it.

This non-call did not hurt the Steelers though. They got the ball on the 20 right after the punt on the following play. They actually gained field position.

That INT happened AFTER Seattle had a completed pass (to the 1 yard line) called back for a BS holding call.

Yeah - that's one I never saw as questionable. If you draw an imaginary line at the plane of the goal line upwards, the nose of the ball would cross it. The ball doesn't have to cross the entire line - the nose of the ball just has to touch that imaginary barrier.

I was rooting for the steelers. However there were 3 obviously bad calls favoring the steelers that greatly helped their win. That is my humble unbiased opinion. This is bad for the NFL.

Imagine that. A donkey fan complaing about officiating...

I don't know?

Read the name

I don't need to. Thanx anyway.