Hockey fights
Are fights in hockey similar to wrestling in that they're fake? Is there some kind of an unwritten rule in hockey fights that you don't hurt someone seriously? I've only attended a couple of games and they're fun to watch, but every time a fight breaks out, I see so many openings where a player could smash the other guy directly in the kisser, but all they throw are these big round house wrestling punches. :shrug: I have no doubt they could kick my ass, but if I got in a street fight and fought against someone that punched like that, he'd be done in about 2 seconds.
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I think that most hockey fights involve a lot of grabbing the jersey. If you are getting held at the shoulder or elbow it is kind of hard to throw a good punch. That is not to say that all fights are soft. I have heard lots of stories of broken faces.
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You haven't seen some of the good and down right bloody fights. I think it might have something to do with the restrictive equipment.
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OK.... a couple things here.....
First, if you ever equate hockey to wraslin again I'll fucking stab you in the face..... or at least threaten it again... :# the fights are very real... Second, there is an unwritten rule in hockey that the fight will be allowed until somebody falls down. Once somebody falls, it's over and the refs break it up. This could be why it seemed odd or staged. Third, try to imagine for a moment, engaging in a street fight in which you and your opponent are both wearing rollerskates. It's not gonna look pretty, and you might fall on your ass before you connect with the other dude's chin.... |
I can see how the padding can get in the way of a good punch. I've seen lots of body checking that's brutal, but the fights always seem controlled.
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ROFL I will never equate hockey and wraslin' again. I didn't know about the falling down rule, that's interesting. |
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WOW, he's gonna feel that in the morning.
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Sad thing about hockey is it's real and it's still boring as ****
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Scoring has increased this year, since they made changes to increase offense. Some people do find it boring though.....
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heh
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The league has been seriously trying to remove fighting from hockey, ever since that dumbass Disney movie came out there have been parents complaining that it's not a "clean family sport".
If you want to see some good fights, just google Bob Probert fight video. That man was a legend. |
Check out Proby with an awesome series of uppercuts...
http://www.brickfist.com/1.Hockey_Fi...uchberger.html This clip will show the problems with fighting in hockey (jersey's, skates, etc.) SITE CONTAINS ADS THAT ARE NSFW http://www.muchosucko.com/video-bobp...ymcsorley.html Here's the video of the picture posted above... http://www.brickfist.com/1.Hockey_Fi...s_Sourray.html Nice face plant in the ice to end the fight... http://www.brickfist.com/1.Hockey_Fi...s_McCarty.html If you get a chane, check out the Avs / Wings bloodbath. I have a VHS of the fight(s), and I'm sure you can find video clips on the web. |
Here's a pretty grainy and short clip of the Avs/Wings stuff. I never tire of seeing Shanny clothesline Roy though!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...596736&pl=true |
Nice pictures......:D
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Just a heads up. |
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I was gonna say something, but then saul would call me a bitch..ROFL anyway, thanks for telling him.. |
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:rolleyes: |
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exactly |
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your options are limited when ur on ice and padded up. there are understood rules to fighting in hockey. |
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yeah, real boring. |
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Put on a football uniform, with extra leg pads, then some ice skates and then try to land a punch while somone is grabbing your jersey while trying not to be hit youself and see how pretty you can make it look.
Yes their real. ROFL |
I'm sure there are more, but I can't think of them. They are trying to take a lot of the fighting out of hockey, which is a shame.
The fights are just a way players police themselves, much like beaning batters in baseball. |
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It's really simple: don't watch it if you don't like it. |
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I'm all for taking fighting out of hockey. When the puck isn't in play it's boring. Can you imagine NFL players fighting like they do in hockey (with the exception of someone kicking TO's a$$)? Takes away from game IMO.
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McCarty kicked his ass. |
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But are you really trying to say that fighting adds to boredom? |
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There are obviously legimate reasons for fights to break out in most any contact sport, but to go at because someone got the better of you in the corner isn't one of them. |
The fighting is at least part of why nobody takes Hockey seriously and it's getting ratings that made the brief XFL look good.
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As far as watching to see hockey... that is where the leaders of the league are trying to take it. They are trying, in order to gain a more mainstream crowd, to cut down on the fights, and moke the game more of a fluid, less grinding game, with higher scoring. I hate to see that. I can recall a series or two the Wings won recently, simply because they worked in the corners and against the boards better than the other teams. And a good fight always makes things more exciting for me. but if the rule changes they've implemented mean more fans, and more popularity for the sport, I can tolerate some "popping" up of the game. If you truly watch hockey for the game, and want to see no fights, you are in luck. The playoffs start this weekend, and there is RARELY a fight during the playoffs. |
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I think the main reason it's hard to get into for a lot of people is because it's not a game you can easily click to in the middle, and know exactly what has happened. Baseball and Football are easy like that. You can switch the game on at any time, and very quickly know what has happened. They are split into small, choppy segments, and you can catch an inning here and there, and it's easier to process that way. Even basketball, though it has a flowing type of game, has scores on almost every possesion. You can watch it just casually and pick out the hot team, and make a decision on how the game has gone. Games like hockey are harder because of the flow of the game. You can watch for an hour and never see a goal. Teams ebba nd flow, even during individual periods, so a team can look horrible, but that tells no story of the game. I think this is the main fact that keeps hockey from joining the main 3 sports. Like it or not, we live in a short-attention span world, and hockey does not cater to that, especially on TV. To be honest, 15 years ago, when I was learning the game, I really had to force myself to watch a whole game. It would be on ESPN on a Friday night, and I'd switch on in the middle and quickly lose interest. But once I watched a whole game, saw the flow and the talent and the energy, I was hooked. I think that's how it is for most people. You get hooked either by watching it live, or by forcing yourself to watch an entire game. It's a drwback, and I wish there was a way to change it so everyone could appreciate it the way I do (or millions of others who are FAR more knowledgeable about it) but I doubt it will ever reach the level of the big 3 because of this. |
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I'm really looking forward to the playoffs. Out here in central Kansas we don't get much hockey on TV until the playoffs start. |
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Exactly......PBJ |
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you only have to wait 2 more days, and then it's drop the gloves time..:D |
http://www.nhlfa.com/fanreport/2006/
Interesting results here. If you look down to #27, it says that 88% of fans don't want to see fighting eliminated. The problem with this, is that they are trying to bring in new fans. Of course the people who are fans already love the game the way it is. I'll stick with my opinion that the fighting is a great part of the game. But I understand it needs to be taken away to gain some fringe or non-fans. |
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