Describe a scenario where you would take up arms against the U.S. government.
 

What would it take for you to start up a rebellion group? What events would have to happen for you to think that you should risk your life to change how America is governed? Please be as specific as possible; I don't want to hear, "Some crazy despot is elected president." I want to hear, "The President disbands Congress at gunpoint" or "The President orders an invasion of Canada" or "The president has made it illegal for me to own slaves" or "The government is killing everyone who wears glasses and is sending the rest to the countryside" or some such thing.

Gov't bans NFL Sunday Ticket.

Smoking is banned in my own home,yes,I'm stockpiling weapons now.

Whem Marijuana is made illegal....oh wait

If they ever suggest that I won't AT LEAST get what I've paid into social security (including employer share) back, and with interest.

Come on fellas, there would be a whole lot us average Americans willing to take up arms over that one.

"Come on....make my day, Senator." :D

If they ever invade my compound where everyone thinks I am Jesus. I have a pretty sweet deal. I get to have sex with mothers AND their daughters. I swear to God...errr my father that they will have to burn this place down with all of us in it before I surrender! :harumph:

that would be an issue to get the masses up in arms.

to the bots and spiders of NSA/DHS Yes, I do post of this site but have nothing but love for my country and would never do anything but sing its praises...........now don't sick the IRS on me.

If they try and take my arms away from me.

No kidding. Makes it worse when imports can come over here at what the age of 45-50 and then be eligible for SS and be a big part of drying it up.

I'm not a part of this Mr DOHLD agent. Rain Man is the evil instigator in this one.

I would right now. I had a felony 13 years ago when i was 18, no trouble before or since, and now illegal immigrants are treated better and with more rights. I cant even get a decent job until my record is expunged, which is in the process. So, yes, I would rise up in arms right now! Just give me a chance!

sounds like they need to lock your ass up

uh, if I were in the Taliban???? An unrealistic scenario....they don't recruit fat, bald, American dudes....

If and when we become the United States of Mexico.

Yeah, felonies are brutal. I know someone with a felony record, and I think that some of the long-term punishments really outweigh the person's crime. (And he did commit a crime, but still...he paid his dues long ago.)

I agree with Big Daddy on this one. There's too much enthusiasm about making crimes felonies with no regard to the fact that the person then can't vote, own a gun, etc. The person that I know wrote some bad checks. Okay, a lot of bad checks. But it was more of a business screwup than an intentional crime. And now he can't vote in an election? And he had to give up his gun collection? Come on.

This is a pretty good description of such a scenario, written over 75 years ago. Haven't read it in 15 years or more, but it held up pretty well over the years, IIRC.

<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0451529294/sr=8-1/qid=1153950776/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-1721350-2243806?ie=UTF8">It Can't Happen Here by Sinclair Lewis</a>

If Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag, and carrying the cross. -Sinclair Lewis

One example. The next Presidential election occurs and Bush refuses to turn the Presidency over to the rightful winner.

Or even have the most basic right to simply be able to protect your family.

Now that's a good one.

Interestingly, though, if he did that, the Constitution would still say that the new president is president, right? So I would think that the armed forces would be legally obligated to help the new president throw him out of the White House. In that case, there would have to be a precursor where the current president tried to pass some sort of law to pre-empt presidential elections "in an emergency" or something. And then he'd have to invoke it. Am I right? Or am I just rambling?

Its good to know some people understand the difficulties of having a felony, even if its over a decade old. If any one knows of a job opportunity in or around Wichita, I would be grateful, and even rethink my stance on the armed uprising!

If Clinton didn't do that what makes you think that Bush would?

He's been hanging around Denise too long.

you're rambling......

ROFL

If there's ever a day when there are threads about "Ass Pennies". er-

Oh. Sorry. I tend to do that on Constitutional Law issues.

I sugggest that you use the "Adept Havelock" method. Ramble in really big words....no one will know that you are rambling.... ROFL ROFL

Woah... Shay's Rebellion II

Nice historical reference!

When they kick down my front door.

ROFL I think it's a little late when that happens.

They named a stadium after a rebellion?????? :shrug: :shrug:

I hear ya. That's why I'm so mouthy now. I'm hoping the tide of public opinion will turn sharply before we get to that point. But make no mistake about the fact that they're coming.

'tis but a flesh wound, come here you coward!

Actually, it was a reference to the Clash's "Guns of Brixton."


"When they kick at your front door, how you gonna come?"

"With your hands on your head or the trigger of your gun?"

"When the law breaks in, how you gonna go?"

"Shot down on the pavement or waiting on death row?"

Great f'ing screen name. ROFL

Are you crazy? I don't want you in my work place. :)

Scarlet letter legislation bro. Sales is the best way to go. Someone will always hire a good one. When you have enough money run your own business do it. I used to hire ex-felons all the time in health clubs. Many of them turned out to be excellent long term upper management types. I never really had to worry about them being hired away.

Thats ok, I dont like to be in the proximity of closed minded tards

Use the sarcasm, Luke.

I try, sometimes its broken. How about smilies? :Peace:

Where did that screen name come from?

Have you used it elsewhere?

ROFL

No, they named that stadium for the Chiefs QB coach.


Lord I was born a (overly verbose) rambling man, trying to make a living and doing the best I can... :p

Uh well it was an example and last I checked Clinton is no longer in office so it would not work using him.

Uh, well, let's see if I can explain this so you understand.

Clinton, two terms, lame duck.

Bush, two terms, lame duck.

Take chill pill and realize that your comment about Bush is just as off the wall as was mine about Clinton.

For having Logical for a name you sure don't seem to be.

ROFL you do bring a ray of light to the world!!!!! In an overly verbose way.......

some of us have instances where our sarcasm buttons get stuck on off. Kinda like when we are defending our fan club..... :)

At least mine had the advantage of having a relevant President capable of making my example happen in the near future. Your example had zero relevance at all.

That is your opinion, my opinion differs.

Well your opinion does have the advantage of being completely irrelevant.

Well you are completely irrelevant.

When the Gov. fills each home with security cameras because...masterbating is now illegal.
& to add insult to injury..what do you think the guy watching the home cams is doing??
& to top even all that off its now legal for two Brownie Hunters to get married in a church!

I've had enough!!

=P

When they try to dismantle freedom where it illeagal to be free.

I'll bite on this one, if you committ 5 murders you can get off scotfree, if you mess with the banking industry it's nuthooks or cement shoes your choice.

I am pretty sure this is going to happen, and maybe to me.


I am getting pretty sick of the inflation that does not exist. $3.50 gas is going to piss me clear off. But arms? Probably never, ever.

If the President or Congress suspended our constitutional rights. I like to think that our professional military would NOT take up arms against the American population. I don't think our military is full of robots but rather is led by an officer core that would protect the people and the constitution.

The Big Lebowski, one of my fav movies. The Dude is awesome, man. But no, never used it previously

Fuggin', Hey....right. No doubt about it. :thumb:

:)

Generation-X may bend over and "take it."

Baby Boomers, old and young...will take up arms over that.

God pity them dem "bureaucrats" :shake:

If the Gov cancled the upcoming football season or banned beer.

It's Shea stadium, named after Bill Shea. He was upset that the Dodgers and Giants left New York and threatened to start a rival baseball league if MLB didn't replace their moves with a new NL team. MLB finally agreed and put the Mets in Queens. He later helped to bring the Jets to Queens and the Islanders to the NHL. When offered 20% ownership of of the Mets, he declined, considering it his civic duty.

If they plowed over my house to make a new superstore i would think about it

I share (and feel) your pain. I too have a felony (non-violent-drug-related), and it has been 23 years since the conviction, and 24 since my incarceration ended, and that damn thing still rears its ugly head in my rear view mirror. I have not even had a parking ticket since then, and I'm still jumping through hoops to try and get that thing expunged.
Being that it happened in South Dakota and I live in east Tennessee makes it harder also.

If Meme were ever to become president. :bang:

Now that is one circumstance I can agree with.

The whole idea of being ID'd via implanted microchip might make me nervous. Mandatory military service would be another.

I'm a lover, not a fighter. :D

I did NOT know that.

If they banned due to some enforced sanctions, French bottled water such as Volvic and Evian. :p

ROFL Way to turn a negative into a positive there.

Perhaps TheDudeAbides should note something like this on my resume. "I'm an ex-felon so no one will hire me. This means that I would be your most loyal employee."

When the corporate robber barons and the prostitutes on their payroll (politicians/judiciary) try to use emenent domain to take my home to build condominiums or walmart supercenters.

I dont know if this was covered, how does an illegal immigrant have more rights than a felon...

Illegals dont have any rights, just because someone breaks the law by giving him a job doesnt mean he has more rights...

Shite, I have been a legal immigrant for 21 years and I still cant vote...

Are you a green card guy, carlos? And if you don't mind sharing, do you plan to pursue citizenship at some point?

If it involves my wife or kids, I'd kill for them.

I cannot believe you are serious, there is no way my generation or yours will get back what you put into SS.

I'm not sure how old each of you are, but I think anyone in their late 40s will do okay. I'm 43, and I hear that I'm going to be one of the first to get mildly screwed over, and then the people younger than me will get worked over pretty good.

I'm 32. It's more likely that I'll see NONE of what I've paid in...

Do you mean literally "take up arms?" I could see a nasty political confrontation but arms may be a little out of reason. I could not see intellegent people confronting our Army with a six shooter or deer rifle.

I am, (its actually Pink)

I married a US Citizen (4 years ago), and my child (2 years old) is a US Citizen as well...

I almost recieved my citizenship about 2 years ago, but I missed my appointment date ( I was out of the country - back home in Argentina) and I never re - scheduled.

Now, I am not so sure I want to become one, just because of the fear there might be a draft in the near future (I am only 24 and out of college) and I would have to go to war because of a loan I signed for to finish College.

I would be taking my family to Argentina at that point.

I was going to be drafted in Argentina, but then they made it voluntary instead of obligatory. My Dad, my uncles were all drafted by the military during the dictatorship times (Dirty War), when the police and military were corrupt... Those were scary times...