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Lzen 09-19-2006 07:55 AM

KU's Meier hurting more than he let on
 
CJOnline Link

By Kevin Haskin
The Capital-Journal

LAWRENCE -- In hindsight, leaving freshman quarterback Kerry Meier in at quarterback may not have been the right move for Kansas in a double-overtime loss Friday at Toledo.

Meier could be seen shaking his right hand after a hit early in the fourth quarter, and KU coach Mark Mangino acknowledged Sunday the injury limited his quarterback's range of motion.

"Early in the fourth quarter he got rolled under a pile," Mangino said. "I asked him during the game if he was OK and he said he was. Actually, after the game I found out he wasn't, but he's a 19-year-old kid who's extremely competitive. He didn't want to come off the field."

Although Meier did not receive any repetitions in practice Sunday, Mangino expects his starter to be ready Saturday when Kansas (2-1) plays South Florida (3-0) at 6 p.m. in Memorial Stadium.

Kansas does not disclose injuries, though Meier appeared to hurt his wrist or hand.

He was examined by a team surgeon, who informed Mangino the injury would take about 48 hours to heal, enabling Meier to return to practice early this week.

"It affected his range of motion," Mangino said. "and we could tell after the game watching the tape he had a little bit of a problem.

"But gee whiz, he is a tough customer and I think that type of mentality in the long run will benefit us."

The 37-31 setback included four interceptions Meier threw, including one in the second overtime.

In addition, a botched handoff between him and running back Jon Cornish ended the first OT with the Jayhawks only needing to set up a field goal attempt after holding Toledo scoreless.

Yet Meier did guide KU on a 69-yard scoring march in the fourth quarter, which he capped by running in the game-tying two-point conversion at the 3:55 mark.

While his arm looked dead on the overtime interception, other balls he threw had considerable zip. He finished 23 of 41 for 243 yards, with two touchdowns.

Along the sideline, the KU medical staff detected bruising, Mangino said, but Meier insisted he was fine.

"I made a coaching decision to leave him in the game, so any turnovers that were thought to be attributed to him should be attributed to me," Mangino said.

"We're not going to make any excuses. Hindsight is always 20-20 vision.

"But when you consider all the other things he did in the game, he kept our offense in the game all night long with his plays. The reason we were able to compete with five turnovers was because of Kerry, too."

Lzen 09-19-2006 08:01 AM

Another game on television for KU
 
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Kansas vs. Nebraska to Kickoff at 6 p.m. on FSN

Sept. 18, 2006

LAWRENCE, Kan. -- The University of Kansas vs. Nebraska football game scheduled for Sept. 30 will kickoff at 6 p.m. from NU's Memorial Stadium and will be aired by FoxSports Net. The contest marks KU's third-consecutive game selected for television.

Last season, KU snapped a 36-game losing streak to Nebraska with its 40-15 win in Lawrence. The Jayhawks held the Cornhuskers to 138 yards of total offense, including just 21 rushing yards.

Saulbadguy 09-19-2006 08:09 AM

Yeah, I read that. You could probably attribute that to at least one of the INT's.

That is tough luck. I can't remember the last time KU has had a healthy QB all season.

HC_Chief 09-19-2006 08:13 AM

:grr:
That game was a complete clusterfuck. How do you give up 28 total yards in the SECOND HALF and LOSE?!

Lzen 09-19-2006 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HC_Chief
:grr:
That game was a complete clusterfuck. How do you give up 28 total yards in the SECOND HALF and LOSE?!

You have a freshman QB and let him do a little too much. Probably not the wisest decision on the coach's part.

Lzen 09-19-2006 08:28 AM

BTW,
I'm thinking about going to the KU football game this weekend. I've never been to a college football game. Anyone else going? Anyone ever been to a KU football game? Anything I should know?

Saulbadguy 09-19-2006 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen
BTW,
I'm thinking about going to the KU football game this weekend. I've never been to a college football game. Anyone else going? Anyone ever been to a KU football game? Anything I should know?

Park in the lots across from Allen Field House and take the shuttle to the Stadium. There is very little parking around the stadium. I think the shuttle costs a couple bucks, round trip.

The weather should be ok, but Memorial stadium is the coldest ****ing stadium ever. Keep that in mind if the wind is blowing.

Also, be prepared to lose :P Jim Leavitt is a very good coach and USF is a decent team. Actually, it should be a decent game.

WilliamTheIrish 09-19-2006 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen
BTW,
I'm thinking about going to the KU football game this weekend. I've never been to a college football game. Anyone else going? Anyone ever been to a KU football game? Anything I should know?

You'll need to remember these finer points of the game and pass them along to all the other folks you'll be sitting around.

1) A field goal in football is worth 3 points. I know you geniouses down there are used to it being worth just two points unless it comes from behind an arc. But there is no arc in football.

2) The field is 100 yards long. And no, John Wooden did not pour the concrete for the stadium.

3) It's okay to stay past halftime.

4) American Eagle and Hollister clothing is a must.

5)The ref's are not out to get your team. (Unless you're OU)

6) That's not a big blue clothed Barney the dinasaur on your sideline. It's actually your coach.

Here to help. :)

Lzen 09-19-2006 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
Park in the lots across from Allen Field House and take the shuttle to the Stadium. There is very little parking around the stadium. I think the shuttle costs a couple bucks, round trip.

The weather should be ok, but Memorial stadium is the coldest ****ing stadium ever. Keep that in mind if the wind is blowing.

Also, be prepared to lose :P Jim Leavitt is a very good coach and USF is a decent team. Actually, it should be a decent game.

Ok, thanks Saul. I know USF is a good team. I also know that KU went undefeated at home last year. Last week, this defense started to resemble that one from a year ago. I have confidence in them. I just hope Meier can get it together this week.

Lzen 09-19-2006 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish
You'll need to remember these finer points of the game and pass them along to all the other folks you'll be sitting around.

1) A field goal in football is worth 3 points. I know you geniouses down there are used to it being worth just two points unless it comes from behind an arc. But there is no arc in football.

2) The field is 100 yards long. And no, John Wooden did not pour the concrete for the stadium.

3) It's okay to stay past halftime.

4) American Eagle and Hollister clothing is a must.

5)The ref's are not out to get your team. (Unless you're OU)

6) That's not a big blue clothed Barney the dinasaur on your sideline. It's actually your coach.

Here to help. :)

Oh, isn't that cute. A purple pussy talking smack.
Look, I know it's the easy thing to talk like there are no football fans of the Jayhawks, but the facts say otherwise. For evidence, look at how many games have been selling out the past few years.

As for me, I've been a KU football fan just about as long as I've been a Chiefs fan (since early 90s). Only reason I haven't been to a KU football game is because A)it's harder for me to go to a football game on Saturdays - often busy or B)Terry Allen's teams weren't worth wasting cash to see them get beaten.

Oh, and KU will beat KSU this year. ;)

ChiTown 09-19-2006 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen
Ok, thanks Saul. I know USF is a good team. I also know that KU went undefeated at home last year. Last week, this defense started to resemble that one from a year ago. I have confidence in them. I just hope Meier can get it together this week.

USF is an a decent team, but they aren't what I would consider anything close to "good". They would be comparable to Marshall, IMO, which wasn't a very good team either. S. Fla's offense is pretty marginal. They only put up 21 points on FIU and 24 on Central Florida - 2 poor defenses. The defense is probably the best part of their team. I think KU takes care of them 27-13.

Good luck.

WilliamTheIrish 09-19-2006 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown
USF is an a decent team, but they aren't what I would consider anything close to "good". They would be comparable to Marshall, IMO, which wasn't a very good team either. S. Fla's offense is pretty marginal. They only put up 21 points on FIU and 24 on Central Florida - 2 poor defenses. The defense is probably the best part of their team. I think KU takes care of them 27-13.

Good luck.

USF's top twq RB's are on the shelf. They are playing a walk-on. They've struggled to say the least.

HC_Chief 09-19-2006 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen
BTW,
I'm thinking about going to the KU football game this weekend. I've never been to a college football game. Anyone else going? Anyone ever been to a KU football game? Anything I should know?

Damn, wish I would have known a few weeks ago... I would have given you my tickets & parking pass!! I have a family thing to attend (read: wife requires me to go to her parents' house on freaking gameday), so we gave our tickets away to our neighbors.

People "rent" parking in yards throughout the neighborhoods N of the stadium. Prior to this season we always parked at 7th & Mississippi for $5. Go early.... arrive at least 1.5 hrs before kickoff!!

Hey William: I'm selling my tix to the KSU game. 2 adult, 2 youth, 1 parking pass (13th & Mississippi; parking garage across street from stadium :D). $300. Interested?

Pitt Gorilla 09-19-2006 09:40 AM

USF is really down this year (injuries, etc.). Honestly, this should be a cakewalk for the Hawks.

HC_Chief 09-19-2006 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla
USF is really down this year (injuries, etc.). Honestly, this should be a cakewalk for the Hawks.

<i>Should be</i>, but so should the Toledo game. KU trounced the Rockets and still blew it.

Yes, I am freaking bitter about that loss. I have <i>never</i> been so disgusted by a football game.

WilliamTheIrish 09-19-2006 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HC_Chief
Damn, wish I would have known a few weeks ago... I would have given you my tickets & parking pass!! I have a family thing to attend (read: wife requires me to go to her parents' house on freaking gameday), so we gave our tickets away to our neighbors.

People "rent" parking in yards throughout the neighborhoods N of the stadium. Prior to this season we always parked at 7th & Mississippi for $5. Go early.... arrive at least 1.5 hrs before kickoff!!

Hey William: I'm selling my tix to the KSU game. 2 adult, 2 youth, 1 parking pass (13th & Mississippi; parking garage across street from stadium :D). $300. Interested?

Thanks dude. But I got freebies. They practically give 'em away down there.

HC_Chief 09-19-2006 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish
Thanks dude. But I got freebies. They practically give 'em away down there.

In Manhattan?
They're not giving out tix at Memorial any more ;)

ChiTown 09-19-2006 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish
Thanks dude. But I got freebies. They practically give 'em away down there.

:LOL:

so true.........

Lzen 09-19-2006 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HC_Chief
Damn, wish I would have known a few weeks ago... I would have given you my tickets & parking pass!! I have a family thing to attend (read: wife requires me to go to her parents' house on freaking gameday), so we gave our tickets away to our neighbors.

People "rent" parking in yards throughout the neighborhoods N of the stadium. Prior to this season we always parked at 7th & Mississippi for $5. Go early.... arrive at least 1.5 hrs before kickoff!!

Hey William: I'm selling my tix to the KSU game. 2 adult, 2 youth, 1 parking pass (13th & Mississippi; parking garage across street from stadium :D). $300. Interested?

Hmmm, too bad I didn't know. Heh.

I think we'll tailgate before the game. So, we'll get there 2-3 hours before kickoff.

Lzen 09-19-2006 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish
Thanks dude. But I got freebies. They practically give 'em away down there.


Ummm, not so fast. You may have gotten freebies, but the average Joe won't get them. As a matter of fact, their pricing is $35 for non-conference games, $45 for conference games, and $65 for the Kstate game. :cuss:

Lzen 09-19-2006 09:59 AM

However, I do find it quite comical that fans of a team that hasn't been to a bowl the past couple of years is talking trash on a team that has been to bowl games 2 of the past 3 years. :)

ChiTown 09-19-2006 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen
However, I do find it quite comical that fans of a team that hasn't been to a bowl the past couple of years is talking trash on a team that has been to bowl games 2 of the past 3 years. :)

Likewise.

I find it surprising that a team that has only been to 4 bowl games in the last 14 years is talking shite on a team that has been to 11 in the last 13 years, including 1 B12 Championship. But, carry on..........

;)

HC_Chief 09-19-2006 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown
Likewise.

I find it surprising that a team that has only been to 4 bowl games in the last 14 years is talking shite on a team that has been to 11 in the last 13 years, including 1 B12 Championship. But, carry on..........

;)

Those days are over for the mildkittens. Back to being division doormats for you purple-clad dorks :p

ChiTown 09-19-2006 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief
Those days are over for the mildkittens. Back to being division doormats for you purple-clad dorks :p

Purple clad dorks?

Don't make me post a picture of those leaping linebacker fairies........

NJ Chief Fan 09-19-2006 10:25 AM

that kid Meier looks promising, didnt look that bad as a frosh

Lzen 09-19-2006 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown
Likewise.

I find it surprising that a team that has only been to 4 bowl games in the last 14 years is talking shite on a team that has been to 11 in the last 13 years, including 1 B12 Championship. But, carry on..........

;)

Where was I talking shite? Other than I think KU will beat KSU this year(which I truly do believe), I don't recall any trash talking.

Lzen 09-19-2006 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown
Purple clad dorks?

Don't make me post a picture of those leaping linebacker fairies........

Please............DON'T DO IT!!!!

Saulbadguy 09-19-2006 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HC_Chief
Those days are over for the mildkittens. Back to being division doormats for you purple-clad dorks :p

So far, it is not looking that way at all.

Eleazar 09-19-2006 12:01 PM

Promising? You're going to have to cross the border to the east to see a QB that looks promising.

HC_Chief 09-19-2006 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise
Promising? You're going to have to cross the border to the east to see a QB that looks promising.

No yipping from the anklebiters until they actual BEAT KU or KSU. :p

WilliamTheIrish 09-19-2006 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise
Promising? You're going to have to cross the border to the east to see a QB that looks promising.

Illinois has a promising QB?

Pitt Gorilla 09-19-2006 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish
Illinois has a promising QB?

I'll give you a hint: Rivals ranks him as the 16th best QB in the country.

ChiTown 09-19-2006 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HC_Chief
No yipping from the anklebiters until they actual BEAT KU or KSU. :p

Unfortunately, they might just take care of that this year.

As solid as MU is playing, I certainly don't see the Cat's beating them in Columbia. As for the Hawks, they won't be deep enough to hang with Mizzou by the end of the year. Their D is already pretty thin in several spots (especially DB's), and their Offense is about as bad as KSU's.

Now the KSU-KU game should be a damn good game. I'll be front and center for that event in Larryville

Pitt Gorilla 09-19-2006 12:42 PM

Of course, he's throwing to the #10 and #11 ranked TEs in the country, so that helps.

sedated 09-19-2006 12:42 PM

It'll be a challenge, but I hold out hope that Pinkel will be able to fuck him up, too

dr00d 09-19-2006 12:44 PM

you don't have to remind us about Josh Freeman, we are just that good that we can bench the #16 qb in the land.

oh wait...that is #4 qb...that's right, #4 qb is being benched at kstate.

WilliamTheIrish 09-19-2006 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla
I'll give you a hint: Rivals ranks him as the 16th best QB in the country.

Really? At Illinois?

HC_Chief 09-19-2006 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown
Unfortunately, they might just take care of that this year.

As solid as MU is playing, I certainly don't see the Cat's beating them in Columbia. As for the Hawks, they won't be deep enough to hang with Mizzou by the end of the year. Their D is already pretty thin in several spots (especially DB's), and their Offense is about as bad as KSU's.

Now the KSU-KU game should be a damn good game. I'll be front and center for that event in Larryville

Oh, it is definitely <i>possible</i>... but we've heard it all before and in typical fashion the tiggers shit themselves.

Kinda like KU did against Toledo Saturday.

Have I mentioned I'm a tad bitter about that loss? :grr:

Pitt Gorilla 09-19-2006 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dr00d
you don't have to remind us about Josh Freeman, we are just that good that we can bench the #16 qb in the land.

oh wait...that is #4 qb...that's right, #4 qb is being benched at kstate.

Good Lord, your and idiot. The #16 QB IN THE COUNTRY, not in some cute recruiting contest. Of course, you Kitties probably think your QB is better than Leak, Henne, et al.

Per Rivals Power Rankings:

1 Troy Smith QB Ohio State 6-1/215 Glenville, OH
Smith has thrown seven TD passes without getting picked off once.
2 Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame 6-4/233 Dublin, OH
Michigan harassed Quinn into his worst performance of the Charlie Weis era.
3 Brian Brohm QB Louisville 6-4/224 Louisville, KY
Brohm should return from a thumb injury in time for the West Virginia.
4 Drew Stanton QB Michigan State 6-3/230 Farmington Hills, MI
Stanton threw for two TDs and rushed for a third score to beat Pittsburgh.
5 Chris Leak QB Florida 6-0/210 Charlotte, NC
His latest comeback should have silenced any remaining doubters.
6 Chad Henne QB Michigan 6-2/223 Wyomissing, PA
Henne outplayed Quinn as Michigan breezed past Notre Dame.
7 JaMarcus Russell QB LSU 6-5/248 Mobile, AL
Although he played well, Russell failed to produce a TD against Auburn.
8 Pat White QB West Virginia 6-2/190 Daphne, AL
White has more rushing yards than the entire Florida State offense.
9 Rudy Carpenter QB Arizona State 6-2/207 Westlake, CA
Carpenter faces the toughest test of his career when the Devils travel to Cal.
10 Matt Ryan QB Boston College 6-5/215 Exton, PA
This guy is the main reason why Boston College remains unbeaten.
11 Brandon Cox QB Auburn 6-2/209 Trussville, AL
His stats may not have looked good, but Cox led Auburn to a critical win.
12 Drew Tate QB Iowa 6-0/192 Baytown, TX
Iowa looked like an entirely different team with Tate in the lineup.
13 Tyler Palko QB Pittsburgh 6-2/220 Imperial, PA
Palko heated up only after Michigan State had put the game away
14 Bret Meyer QB Iowa State 6-3/208 Atlantic, IA
Meyer already has exceeded his rushing total from last year.
15 John David Booty QB Southern Cal 6-3/215 Shreveport, LA
For the second straight game, Booty threw three TD passes with no picks.
16 Chase Daniel QB Missouri 6-1/220 Southlake, TX -
His versatility makes Missouri one of the more exciting teams to watch.
17 Erik Ainge QB Tennessee 6-6/220 Hillsboro, OR
Ainge threw two interceptions without a TD pass in a loss to Florida.
18 Ben Olson QB UCLA 6-5/225 Thousand Oaks, CA
Olson and Co. got a week off to prepare for Washington.
19 John Beck QB Brigham Young 6-2/212 Mesa, AZ
Beck threw for 436 yards in a heartbreaking loss to Boston College.
20 Zac Taylor QB Nebraska 6-2/210 Norman, OK

Pitt Gorilla 09-19-2006 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief
Oh, it is definitely <i>possible</i>... but we've heard it all before and in typical fashion the tiggers shit themselves.

Kinda like KU did against Toledo Saturday.

Have I mentioned I'm a tad bitter about that loss? :grr:

There is little doubt that we'll lose one that we shouldn't. Unfortunately, it will be against a team like KU, KSU, or Ohio. That's just the way it goes.

Lzen 09-19-2006 12:55 PM

I gotta admit that in the one game I watched (part of anyway) of Mizzou this year, I was very impressed with their QB. Only thing is that I don't know much about the level of competition.

WilliamTheIrish 09-19-2006 01:03 PM

Forgive all us non MUtt's for not shaking in our boots over Rivals' power rankings.

Saulbadguy 09-19-2006 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen
I gotta admit that in the one game I watched (part of anyway) of Mizzou this year, I was very impressed with their QB. Only thing is that I don't know much about the level of competition.

They haven't played anyone.

1. Murray State. I-AA team, not even a good one IIRC.
2. Ole Miss. They lost to Kentucky. Nuff said.
3. New Mexico. They lost to I-AA Portland State at HOME. They are awful.

Mizzou is definately improved with Chase Daniel, and they have a very solid defense, but they aren't world beaters. They are better than Nebraska though, IMO. Nebraska is terribly overrated.

Saulbadguy 09-19-2006 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish
Forgive all us non MUtt's for not shaking in our boots over Rivals' power rankings.

13 years in a row. How embarrassing.

HC_Chief 09-19-2006 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
They haven't played anyone.

1. Murray State. I-AA team, not even a good one IIRC.
2. Ole Miss. They lost to Kentucky. Nuff said.
3. New Mexico. They lost to I-AA Portland State at HOME. They are awful.

Mizzou is definately improved with Chase Daniel, and they have a very solid defense, but they aren't world beaters. They are better than Nebraska though, IMO. Nebraska is terribly overrated.

Give them some credit - they took care of business against teams they <i>should</i> beat.

Unlike KU. Who completely botched a game they should have won 42-14.

Bitter? Me? You bet your ass! :grr:

Pitt Gorilla 09-19-2006 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish
Forgive all us non MUtt's for not shaking in our boots over Rivals' power rankings.

Notice that I didn't ask for you to shake. Someone simply pointed out that our QB is promising; I guess I would have to agree and Rivals seems to think he's ok as well. Although, I guess he's probably not as good as the #4 ranked KSU benchwarming guy.

ChiTown 09-19-2006 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla
There is little doubt that we'll lose one that we shouldn't. Unfortunately, it will be against a team like KU, KSU, or Ohio. That's just the way it goes.

Well, I wouldn't kick KU and especially KSU in the "games you shouldn't lose" quite yet. MU tends to lose to KSU quite a bit...........

Lzen 09-19-2006 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown
Well, I wouldn't kick KU and especially KSU in the "games you shouldn't lose" quite yet. MU tends to lose to KSU quite a bit...........

MU hasn't beaten KU since 2002. :)

Saulbadguy 09-19-2006 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen
MU hasn't beaten KU since 2002. :)

I remember that. MU players tore down the goalposts. (really)

Eleazar 09-19-2006 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen
MU hasn't beaten KU since 2002. :)

Don't worry, we've just been saving up for the curbstomping we're going to put on you this year.

HC_Chief 09-19-2006 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise
Don't worry, we've just been saving up for the curbstomping we're going to put on you this year.

Heh, Pinkell will probably try to run against us. GENIOUS!

Eleazar 09-19-2006 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
I remember that. MU players tore down the goalposts. (really)

I guess it's better than doing it after every win ;)


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