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Hootie 11-05-2006 03:17 PM

do we still want Green over Huard?
 
I mean...this Huard guy is playing sensational football.

Great win today boys!

JimNasium 11-05-2006 03:18 PM

Jesus, why don't you and GoChiefs give it a rest?

cdcox 11-05-2006 03:18 PM

Go run with a sharp stick.

Hootie 11-05-2006 03:18 PM

why would we give it a rest when we are the only ones that see Huard is better for this team than Green, sorry

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-05-2006 03:19 PM

Huard played great today, but he threw what should have been a pick 6, and one of his TDs was an absolute gift from the Rams on a whiffed blitz by Travis Fisher.

Let's be realistic, here.

Pierce 11-05-2006 03:19 PM

As long as Herm keeps saying Green is the man once healthy, it won't matter how well Huard plays.

He has played like a God though. Geez, and I HATED having this guy in the preseason.

I am so sorry, Damon. You haver certainly proved me wrong.

DaWolf 11-05-2006 03:19 PM

Do we ask this question the second Huard has a bad game?

Hey, Green is a proven pro bowler. I really don't think we miss a beat as long as we continue running the ball...

JimNasium 11-05-2006 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
why would we give it a rest when we are the only ones that see Huard is better for this team than Green, sorry

You are a dipshit. It's as simple as that.

FAX 11-05-2006 03:19 PM

It's developing into a more difficult question all the time, that's for sure, Mr. Hootie.

But, I still think you have to put Trent back in when the time comes. Given Huard's performances, Trent will be ready to light it up.

FAX

64 Chief 11-05-2006 03:19 PM

Huard show continue until HE loses a game.

Hootie 11-05-2006 03:20 PM

and what was the deal with our defensive game plan? Our secondary is awful. Awful. Did we decide to just, you know, forget the running back is an elgible receiver? Ridiculous. Another win, but another week where are defense is exposed.

irishjayhawk 11-05-2006 03:20 PM

I still think Green should be out another week. I think you give Huard the reins on a road game. Bring Trent back at home. Give him more practice and not the pressure of the road game.

Deberg_1990 11-05-2006 03:20 PM

I dont think that Huard is as physically talented as Green.

I do believe that he is playing more within the system and team concept.

Green always had a tendacy to throw the untimely red zone INT....ill leave it at that.

JimNasium 11-05-2006 03:21 PM

Oh, and one more thing dipshit. It doesn't matter what "we" want. Herm has made it clear what direction he's going. That makes this mental masterbation that you and your jerking twin Goatboy are going through totally meaningless.

cdcox 11-05-2006 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
Huard played great today, but he threw what should have been two pick 6...

FYP

Hootie 11-05-2006 03:21 PM

suddenly the Miami game looks a little bit tougher...

and you guys are hilarious...another week, another HUGE performance by Huard...

whiffed blitz?! It's called Huard felt it and avoided it...great instincts.

milkman 11-05-2006 03:21 PM

Why not just enjoy a win for a change, instead of stirring shit?

Com'on, we won.
Let's enjoy the moment.

irishjayhawk 11-05-2006 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
and what was the deal with our defensive game plan? Our secondary is awful. Awful. Did we decide to just, you know, forget the running back is an elgible receiver? Ridiculous. Another win, but another week where are defense is exposed.

To be fair, Wesley, Hali and Johnson were all lost to injury, so I wonder if Jackson has so many catches in the flat with those guys in.

Hammock Parties 11-05-2006 03:21 PM

Huard was mega-accurate today. That pass was Parker was a beauty, and the TD toss to Wilson was Manning-esque.

His QB rating now stands at a robust 105.2. GO HUARD!

JBucc 11-05-2006 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
suddenly the Miami game looks a little bit tougher...

and you guys are hilarious...another week, another HUGE performance by Huard...

whiffed blitz?! It's called Huard felt it and avoided it...great instincts.

He didn't move you ****ing dumbass. The guy slipped. I try so so hard to like Huard, but you and GoChiefs make it really difficult.

Hootie 11-05-2006 03:22 PM

he should've thrown two pick 6's?!

Oh ok, but did he?

Christ guys, we could go through every NFL game and put a 'shoulda' on every play...

the Talking Can 11-05-2006 03:22 PM

Green couldn't complete 10 passes?

I love what Huard is doing, but LJ is the star...and Green can help open up the pass offense a bit...

as long as our D plays well and LJ is healthy we'll keep winning...

JimNasium 11-05-2006 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX
It's developing into a more difficult question all the time, that's for sure, Mr. Hootie.

But, I still think you have to put Trent back in when the time comes. Given Huard's performances, Trent will be ready to light it up.

FAX

How is it difficult Mr. Fax? Herm has made it clear that Trent is the starter when he is cleared. I don't think grousing about it on a message board has any impact.

PastorMikH 11-05-2006 03:22 PM

Here we go again. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:



Over-throws - especially to the RB in the flat, fumbles, etc.

Yes.



I said it the other night to GoChiefs and I'll say it again here. I'm not willing to put a Pro-Bowl QB who is ready to play on the bench heading into the second half of our season for a perennial 3rd stringer regardless of how good he's doing as of late. As I stated 3 weeks ago, if Trent comes out throwing like Rothlisberger, I'm all for Huard coming back in. But Trent needs to be given the chance to prove he's healthy because if he is, and as careful as they are being, he will be, he will throw circles around Huard and our O production WILL pick up as a result.

the Talking Can 11-05-2006 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
he should've thrown two pick 6's?!

Oh ok, but did he?

Christ guys, we could go through every NFL game and put a 'shoulda' on every play...

why not?

you douchebags have slandered and lied about Green without restraint

sorry to intrude upon your fantasy with reality....

Hootie 11-05-2006 03:23 PM

It's difficult because Green has never sniffed a 100 QB rating as a Chief and Huard is now 5-2 as a starter on a team that lost its best player (Willie Roaf)...

Sorry guys, Huard is our best option at QB, not Green.

Wile_E_Coyote 11-05-2006 03:24 PM

15 passes for less than 150 yards?

Hootie 11-05-2006 03:24 PM

Huard is doing so well right now that, no matter what, Green won't be able to do any better.

Hammock Parties 11-05-2006 03:24 PM

Huard is just playing so well right now...we're screwing ourselves if we take him out. I know it.

jspchief 11-05-2006 03:25 PM

Are you seriously claiming that Huard is better than Green?

PastorMikH 11-05-2006 03:25 PM

In the spririt of MartysManWhore, now introducing...

Huard'sManWhore1
Huard'sManWhore2

GoChiefs and Hootie can fight over the 1 and 2.


Or, depending upon the gender of one (you can be the judge)

Huard'sWhore
Huard'sManWhore





(I can't EVEN believe I have had someone complain to me through PMs about this). :shake:

Hootie 11-05-2006 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote
15 passes for less than 150 yards?

and a 140 QB rating with 3 TD's...

He had himself a day.

(and we were missing our best lineman, Waters)

Hammock Parties 11-05-2006 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote
15 passes for less than 150 yards?

14.8 yards per completion. There was nothing leashed about Huard today. We just didn't have the ball that much, and we got conservative with the playcalling because we had a lead.

Hootie 11-05-2006 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief
Are you seriously claiming that Huard is better than Green?

for our offense, yes.

Is he more talented? No.

Is he a better fit for our Hermlified offense? Absolutely.

Hammock Parties 11-05-2006 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief
Are you seriously claiming that Huard is better than Green?

No...I just don't see a good reason to take him out.

Basileus777 11-05-2006 03:26 PM

Layoff on the d***riding for a while, Huard's c**k is getting sore.

Hootie 11-05-2006 03:26 PM

lmao...

alright guys

Redcoats58 11-05-2006 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
he should've thrown two pick 6's?!

Oh ok, but did he?

Christ guys, we could go through every NFL game and put a 'shoulda' on every play...

I'm glad you're not the coach of my favorite team. :shake:

JimNasium 11-05-2006 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
lmao...

alright guys

Dipshit.

underEJ 11-05-2006 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs
TD toss to Wilson was Manning-esque.


Stop it. Now. You've gone off the deep end here. Huard had no idea if Wilson was going to get free. He took a chance, and it panned out. He threw it to a spot and Wilson deserves the credit for getting there.

You make me want to bash Huard, and I really don't want to do that. He's a great BACKUP!!

Wile_E_Coyote 11-05-2006 03:27 PM

I give him credit, playing with two extra nuts swinging between his legs

Hootie 11-05-2006 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimNasium
Dipshit.

I'm not the one that looks like an idiot here...the ones saying Green is a better fit for this team are the idiots.

It's OBVIOUS, blatantly OBVIOUS, that Huard should be our QB.

Hootie 11-05-2006 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by underEJ
Stop it. Now. You've gone off the deep end here. Huard had no idea if Wilson was going to get free. He took a chance, and it panned out. He threw it to a spot and Wilson deserves the credit for getting there.

You make me want to bash Huard, and I really don't want to do that. He's a great BACKUP!!

Every ****ing pass in the NFL is a chance, jesus.

Uncle_Ted 11-05-2006 03:28 PM

The key when Green comes back is to keep the gameplan like we are using now. In other words, don't go back to what we were doing for the last 4 years -- we no longer have the O-line to give Green 5 secs to wait for a receiver to come open.

JimNasium 11-05-2006 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by underEJ
Stop it. Now. You've gone off the deep end here. Huard had no idea if Wilson was going to get free. He took a chance, and it panned out. He threw it to a spot and Wilson deserves the credit for getting there.

You make me want to bash Huard, and I really don't want to do that. He's a great BACKUP!!

He's not going to stop. He's convinced that he is channeling Vince fucking Lombardi. I've never seen a loser with a bigger ego in my entire life.

JimNasium 11-05-2006 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
I'm not the one that looks like an idiot here...the ones saying Green is a better fit for this team are the idiots.

It's OBVIOUS, blatantly OBVIOUS, that Huard should be our QB.

Dipshit.

Hammock Parties 11-05-2006 03:30 PM

Play nice guys. We're all Chiefs fans.

DenverChief 11-05-2006 03:30 PM

I think it is interesting that supposidly he was supposed to come back next week vs Miami but the TV announcers said the Oakland game was his target to start...:hmmm:

underEJ 11-05-2006 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
Every ****ing pass in the NFL is a chance, jesus.


Great gameplan.

Hootie 11-05-2006 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimNasium
Dipshit.

yep, great point.

Awesome point dude...

I'm sorry that GoChiefs and I know what we're talking about...

Blame on the fact we don't have the fan favorite bias blinders on at all times...

milkman 11-05-2006 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
for our offense, yes.

Is he more talented? No.

Is he a better fit for our Hermlified offense? Absolutely.

It's amazing.

You two can't even decide what the offense is doing.

On one hand you claim the offense hasn't been adjusted.
On the other you claim it's been "Hermified".

You should make up your minds before you make any proclamations that Huard should be the starter.

DaWolf 11-05-2006 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
It's difficult because Green has never sniffed a 100 QB rating as a Chief and Huard is now 5-2 as a starter on a team that lost its best player (Willie Roaf)...

Sorry guys, Huard is our best option at QB, not Green.

Dude, if you're going to make a post at least make an intelligent point. Because the above wasn't.

When the season has ended and if Damon Huard has played over 12 games and has a rating over 100, then come back with that argument. Otherwise that's just a bad comparison against a multiple pro bowl QB who is coming off of four FULL SEASONS with QB ratings of 90+...

JimNasium 11-05-2006 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
yep, great point.

Awesome point dude...

I'm sorry that GoChiefs and I know what we're talking about...

Blame on the fact we don't have the fan favorite bias blinders on at all times...

Dipshit.

Hootie 11-05-2006 03:30 PM

yeah, awesome win though...

5-3...feels phenomenal.

Hammock Parties 11-05-2006 03:30 PM


Redcoats58 11-05-2006 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
I'm not the one that looks like an idiot here...the ones saying Green is a better fit for this team are the idiots.

It's OBVIOUS, blatantly OBVIOUS, that Huard should be our QB.

No apparently *your and idiot* this is the same offense as the Dick Vermeil years.

FAX 11-05-2006 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimNasium
How is it difficult Mr. Fax? Herm has made it clear that Trent is the starter when he is cleared. I don't think grousing about it on a message board has any impact.

The question becomes more difficult simply based on performance, Mr. JimNasium. I agree with Herm's public statements and have always thought that it was poor form to lose your job due to injury. Particularly in this case considering Trent went to the bench after the cheap shot of all times and has proven himself to be a probowl caliber QB for years on end. He is clearly Huard's superior regardless how "hot" Huard is.

But, you have to admit that Huard is playing well. I have a feeling that Trent will come out on fire when his number is called again. He will certainly be motivated.

Of course, you're right about the ability of BB posts to change anyone's mind about anything. It's merely conversation, after all. Anyway, I leave these final decisions up to the chia pet.

FAX

teedubya 11-05-2006 03:31 PM

If the OLine is rocky like this, I dont know if its wise to bring hiim in...

but to have him play at home vs, the Raiders that is good... However, their defense isnt horrendous.

Huard has been incredible. Much love for Damon.

Hootie 11-05-2006 03:32 PM

we can't make up our mind?

You're an idiot. This offense is totally different than it was last year. I know that for a fact.

Huard had a big ol' leash on his neck during that Denver game. All we're saying is, the leash is officially off.

And now he's the best fit for our Hermlified offense.

jspchief 11-05-2006 03:32 PM

Good grief. Did you guys not see our offense stall for almost 2 full qtrs in this game? If it weren't for Rams fuckups, we very well could have got our asses kicked.

To come away from this game with a good feeling about the offense is crazy. We aren't going to be able to hide Huard behind 30 carries per game out of Johnson. Sooner or later, we're going to need more from the passing game.

RINGLEADER 11-05-2006 03:33 PM

Personally, I'd play Huard until he struggles. If he keeps winning why switch? Seriously, that's like bringing Green back at the end of the year after Warner played lights out or bringing Grbac back after Gannon goes 5-1...talk about stupid.

Hootie 11-05-2006 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redcoats58
No apparently *your and idiot* this is the same offense as the Dick Vermeil years.

if you think this is the same offense, you don't know what you're talking about...plain and simple.

Hootie 11-05-2006 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief
Good grief. Did you guys not see our offense stall for almost 2 full qtrs in this game? If it weren't for Rams fuckups, we very well could have got our asses kicked.

To come away from this game with a good feeling about the offense is crazy. We aren't going to be able to hide Huard behind 30 carries per game out of Johnson. Sooner or later, we're going to need more from the passing game.

like last week when he threw for 319 yards?

Redcoats58 11-05-2006 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
if you think this is the same offense, you don't know what you're talking about...plain and simple.

It is the same AC offense, you don't know what you're talking about!

milkman 11-05-2006 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
we can't make up our mind?

You're an idiot. This offense is totally different than it was last year. I know that for a fact.

Huard had a big ol' leash on his neck during that Denver game. All we're saying is, the leash is officially off.

And now he's the best fit for our Hermlified offense.

And yet, you said last week that you couldn't see a difference between this offense and the offense with Green.

dirk digler 11-05-2006 03:35 PM

I definitely would start Green at home against Oakland. I love what Huard has done but Green is still the best QB on this team.

jspchief 11-05-2006 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
like last week when he threw for 319 yards?

319 yds? That's what you're going to hang your hat on?

give me a break.

Hootie 11-05-2006 03:36 PM

oh, so until he throws for 700 yards and 8 TD's he isn't worthy...I get it.

Hootie 11-05-2006 03:37 PM

I'm done with this, I'm right, hahaha...THEE YA

SPchief 11-05-2006 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
All we're saying is, the leash is officially off.

.

He threw the ball 15 times.

Easy 6 11-05-2006 03:38 PM

I miss the earth so much..I miss my wife..its lonely out in space.........

DaWolf 11-05-2006 03:38 PM

Gentlemen, I give you a bit of history:

Quote:

In 1991, with Montana lost for the season, and Steve Young injured mid-season, Bono started six games. He went 5-1 as a starter and finished the season fourth in passer rating behind Young, Jim Kelly, and Mark Rypien. Bono returned to his backup role behind Young in 1992 and 1993.
And IIRC, there were actually some fans in SF who thought Bono was just as good as Young at the time, based on what he did in limited action.

Over the long haul, it didn't pan out. I think it would prove to be the same with Damon...

jspchief 11-05-2006 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
oh, so until he throws for 700 yards and 8 TD's he isn't worthy...I get it.

Yea, that's exactly what I said.

There's a big difference between throwing for 700, and thinking a 319 yd game is a feather in your cap.

We don't have the defense to get away with Trent Dilfer at QB.

Que Card QB 11-05-2006 03:39 PM

The real question is should we release T-Go for Wilson. He's had the same amount of touchdowns hasn't he? :rolleyes:
Pfff.

PastorMikH 11-05-2006 03:40 PM

FWIW, the game you all are kissing all over Huard on, Green hasn't put up less passing yardage in a full game since '03 and he's only had 3 games in his entire tenure that were worse than Huard's yardage totals today.


We'll see about Huard next season. He's a FA, he will garner attention from some teams needing a starter so I expect him to be gone and starting somewhere else. We'll see then if he puts up better #s that Trent.

Hammock Parties 11-05-2006 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief
We don't have the defense to get away with Trent Dilfer at QB.

I think you are selling Huard way, way short with that comparison. When was Dilfer ever rated in the 100's? When did he EVER have an 8-game stretch with 11 TDs and 1 INT?

Redcoats58 11-05-2006 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
oh, so until he throws for 700 yards and 8 TD's he isn't worthy...I get it.

Dude you're getting bashed because you're downing Green to make Huard look superior when it's just not true. I'm sure everyone here agrees with you that Huard is playing exceptional, but that doesn't mean Green should lose his job, why should we expect any less then what we have seen the last 4 years from Green?

PastorMikH 11-05-2006 03:42 PM

If Herm and Solari took the leash off of Huard, he'd be down in the 70s passer rating.

Que Card QB 11-05-2006 03:44 PM

The only thing Damon's doing is making a good case to replace Plummer.

Hootie 11-05-2006 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PastorMikH
If Herm and Solari took the leash off of Huard, he'd be down in the 70s passer rating.

sweet ass!

I can't wait for this leash to be removed.

Instead of being held to 319 yards passing he might be getting 600-800 yards per game!

NICE!!


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