NFT: New Dishwasher opinion needed
 

This year we are planning on replacing our dishwasher for our Christmas gift to one another. We think we want one that is Stainless on the inside and white on the outside. Since this is a joint gift for each other I am not as restricted budget wise as I would normaly be but lets keep it under a grand for sure. The one I have had my eye on is the Bosch found HERE but I am pretty open minded since I am pretty ignorant to what to look for in a dishwasher. Sears seems to be just one of many places that sells the Bosch and the primary reason for considering Sears is because a business aquaintance of mine is in Sears contract sales and if I can help him by purchasing through him then I will, otherwise I am all ears.

Whew. When I saw the thread title and it said you needed a new dish washer, I, naturally, assumed you and the wife were getting divorced. :D :p

Don't skimp. You'll be happy you spent more on a higher end model. They do a better job of cleaning your dishes and they're much quieter. We dropped $1100 on a dishwasher that you can hardly tell it's running and our dishes are spotless.

I don't have any specific advice as to model. Ours is a Kenmore Elite - got it at the Sears Outlet down by the casinos.

HAHA

Believe me if me and the wife were on the outs....I'd need a LOT of things before a dishwasher came to my mind since eating out limits the amount of dishes needing cleaning.

Definitely Spring for stainless. Gets 100 degrees hotter inside. Never any issue with spot/stains,

Most are daily programmable to run off peak. Very quiet.

I have a Kitchen Aid.

We have a Fisher/Paykel cooktop and double oven. If their dish drawer dishwasher is anything like their other stuff you need to check it out. Lowes and Home Depot have them

We have a Kitchen Aid that has always worked well for us. As far as Bosch, I had no idea they made appliances, but I know they make great power tools

About 6 weeks ago we bought the Bosch that's a step down from the one you linked and have been freaking thrilled to death with it. The finest appliance of any kind I've ever owned.

The best part is that there isn't that reeruned heating coil on the bottom so you can actually put plastic crap on the bottom rack and it won't melt.

Add to that the fact that it uses next to no soap, damn near no water, far less electricity, and it's whisper quiet, for $450 I feel like I stole the thing. The one downside is they don't have a garbage disposal built in, so if you're in the habit of putting whole frozen pizzas in the thing you'll have to clean out the little trap in the bottom. In 6 weeks I haven't found a speck of food in there, though.

We bought a similar Bosch at our last house, and it was a prized possession (and yes, I realize that is a sad statement). You couldn't even tell it was running it was so quiet. Definitely spring for the stainless steel inside. When our clothes dryer died on us, we didn't hesitate in purchasing a Bosch. Hell, I find myself looking forward to the day the dishwasher in our current house dies, so I can run out and buy another Bosch.

I have a Kitchen aid that is stainless inside/out and it is awsome. It's great to have one that you can't hear. The only downside with the Bosch may be parts availability and cost, you may want to check that out before you buy. Most of the Whirlpool variants (ie. maytag, kitchenaid, whirlpool, jenn air) have pretty cheap parts.

DT

we have a maytag(mid level) machine. been perty happy w/it. prolly can't go wrong with maytag, kitchen aid, or the sort. as with anything, you get what you pay for.

Bingo. They're made from cheap parts. :p

Paper cups, paper plates. Plastic knives and spoons.

There i saved you a grand.

Nice.

You could go 'French' and just too the dishes out the window.

BOSCH rules, they are quiet and stainless steel throughout inside...

I just went from a KitchenAid ('86 model and noisy) to a Kenmore (quiet). I get hella-clean dishes now. I rely heavily on Consumer Reports when I make appliance decisions. The Bosch is their highest rated machine and I almost bought one. I ended up with the Kenmore (it was rated 3rd, I believe) because they had a heck of a sale that included free installation. I didn't think much about the installation part, BUT I went from a standard dishwasher to a "tall tub." The professional installer took 3-1/2 hours to install the thing because the water line wouldn't accommodate the low profile of the tall tub. The ceiling below the kitchen is dry wall, so he had to get creative. I'm sure I'd have been throwing tools if I tried to do it myself. You may want to check out your setup now if you're thinking of installing the DW yourself.

We have a generic GE model that came with our house. I unplugged it and cut off the water supply and we now just use it to dry the dishes we wash by hand (not as bad as it sounds - just me, my wife and our 3 year old). Needless to say, don't get one. You get what you pay for. Also, FWIW, my mom has a Kitchen Aid and I think she's been pleased with it...and she's pretty hard on appliances.

Excellent point, I havent thought about the water lines not matching up.

After making this post I went online and looked at several differant ones and it is amazing how many differant nuances there is to these things. One brand that no one has mentioned here is Miele. Someone recomended them. The appear to be pretty high end and might be out of my league but they have a nice websight found
HERE

Anyway, thanks for all the input, it seams Bosch & Kitchen Aid customers are pretty happy overall.

I think you can't go wrong withthat Bosch. That's the one we have and you have to put your ear on the door to tell if it's running.
We put the Fisher Paykal dish drawer in our old house when we remodeled the kitchen. $1300 dishwasher and I didn't like it. It developed draining problems, and the dishes never got dry. You had to towel them off if you unloaded the thing right after it ran.

I totally disagree with Phobia, respectfully of course. I have a friend in the biz and he says that the newer models aren't worth the money. The electronic panels that run them fry very easily. And, they run quieter, but that is because the cleaning mechanism is different than the older models; as a result they don't do a better job. By a cheaper model and turn the hot water on so that the water is hot going into the tub; your dishes will be spotless.

Does the hot water thing really work?


We bought a Kenmore, not the cheapest but not the most expensive, and it's really quiet, but I did notice some spots on our glasses last night, which bothered me. We've only used it three or four times, though, so I don't know if that's a problem or just a one-time thing.

Read your owner's manual. Most that I've read strongly recommend that you run the hot water before turning the dishwasher on.

Oh, and fill up the Jet Dry dispenser thing.

Damnit, my dishwasher looks like it died today too. Damn thing won't drain and there is nothing clogging it up. It is an old GE from 1999.

I can't find any Bosch models that are at the $450 price range you found though.

I'll GIVE you a functioning dishwasher if you come pick it up, Guru. It's a white GE and it's nothing special but it works. I pulled it out of one of our kitchens because we're switching to stainless.

Have a white stove, too.

I am interested. How old is it? Brand? EDIT Duh GE.

Oh, and where do you live?

I have two dishwashers. Brand names: Kenny and Gregory. :D

South KC. I have no idea how old it is. It's nothing special - base model when it was installed, I'm sure. But the price is right.

I will let you know. Need to decide if I want to just go ahead and upgrade or not. A free fix sure sounds good though.

Especially around the Holidays. Once again, I know for a fact it works just fine. Who knows how long it has. It might have a year - it might have 5.

We bought it at Nebraska Furniture Mart. I'm not sure what the model number is, it was the least expensive Bosch they had. They don't give prices on the web site, but I THINK this is it:

http://www.nebraskafurnituremart.com...uctID=23720758

Ours has the white front to go with all the rest of our kitchen appliances.

Thanks Simplex. I will drop them an inquiry. I so hate looking for appliances. Can't afford the top lines and am afraid of the mid-lines not being much better than what I had.

Christmas is the worst time to have an appliance go bad. Gonna try to fix it in the morning. Figure I can't make it worse.

I used to think that way; not true.

Well, if it is already busted.....

Yeah, I thought that before I bought my new drier. This was after I put $140 worth of parts in the old one and it still didn't fix it.

Wife wants me to call a repairman. I hate going that route, because by the time it is all said and done you have spent at least a third of what a new one would have cost ya.

I don't waste time with parts, If I can't find the simple fix I trash it.

...At least.

Trust me; one can always bust things worse then they already are. I speak from personal experience.

You'll spend no less than $200 to have the guy come out and tell you it's borked. Then he's going to want to replace the pump, which isn't a cheap part. You'll quickly have given him $300 or more. If this is the dishwasher that came with your house you can buy one just like it for $200.

Wash dishes by hand for awhile.

Just get another Dishwasher after Christmas.

Pump kinda expensive or front control unit not bad.

Original ditch it and go with a new unit. (last years model might be on sale).