LJ still leading the league in rushing
 

LJ 1,202

Gore 1,177

Tomlinson 1,146

I wanna know how many more carries he has than the other guys....

LJ-289
Gore-200
Tomlinson-229

Christ. LJ could conceivably have around 440 carries this year, not including playoffs.

but..but...LT is the greatest player that will ever play teh game!!!!!1111 [/charger fans, epsn, Randy Cross]

Ok now I'm not impressied he has almost 100 more carries than Gore and a ton more than Tomlinson while only being 30 yards ahead of Gore.. and not even 100 ahead of Tomlinson.......he has several games worth more carries and barely anymore yards......

That's not impressive to me he should be alot further ahead with that many more carries.

Which is why we need to start using Bennett more. NOW. 10 carries a game.

If you gave Tomlinson the amount of carries LJ has he'd be beating LJ by about 200 yards....

Not if LT was running into the fronts that LJ was when Huard was playing.

Tomlinson hasn't had the O-Line inconsistencies that LJ has had to work through.

I dunno about that....he put up some stats when he was basically the only player on thier team who was any good.

I think a part of that is that, becasue of the different divisions in Gore's case, and the better overall offense in Tomlinson's case, that yards are harder to come by for LJ than for the other two.

And the fact is that LJ has been steadily incresing his YPC since around the 4th game.

It's just the point that LJ has several games worth more of carries 89 more carries than the 2nd guy is ridiculous when your only about 30 yards ahead......

I don't think the stats tell the story here. How many games have we ridden LJ for this year, as compared to the Chargers and Niners with their backs. Every one of our opponents KNOWS we are going to feed LJ the ball, and he still puts up stats. Gore has pretty much come out of nowhere this year, and Tomlinson plays on an offense that is a mirror of the 2003 Chiefs offense.

I'm extremely impressed with how LJ has played.

Hey Mecca...shut the **** up. Jesus.

At this rate we better win this year because he's got maybe 2 good years left in him.....history says this many carries for a back=bad very bad.

Well sorry......saying LJ leads the league in rushing when he has that many more carries would be like saying....."Hey I made more money than you but I worked 72 hours to your 25" well I'd sure as **** hope so.

Tomlinson, in his first two years, before they really started to get that O-Line fixed, and added more offensive weapons, averaged 3.6 YPC and 4.5 YPC respectively.

LJ is at 4.3 right now, and even with Roaf out much of last season, he averaged 5.2.

Should we trade LJ for someone that impresses you?

Reggie Bush!

No but the point was it's funny to trump up that he leads the league in rushing when he has that many more carries....I'd sure as **** hope hes' leading the league in rushing he's probably leading the league in carries by a huge margin.

Idiot. :LOL:
If you gave LT the number of carries LJ gets then D's would stack against him the way they stack against LJ and we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Who the **** is trumping it up? I'm proud of LJ and like seeing his name at the top of the list, that's all. Eat the corn nuggets out of my shit, Mecca.

ah for a Trojan!

He's not better than Tomlinson is sorry.....Tomlinsons having an MVP year.

Did you even read the post by Milkman and Bowser? The situations are different, LJ is the main reason you can make a comment about doing it this year.

Remember when Tomlinson and LJ met on the same field? Who had the better game? Who won the game?

Alright when he carries it 400 + times and has a very short career we can chalk that up to circumstance too.

That's why LJ had more rushing yards than LT last year and started half the games right?

If you are really going to make the arguement he's better I'm going to laugh at you.......Tomlinson is a much better all around player and is having an MVP year.

Probably because he has about 150 more carries....

You talking about league MVP? If LJ stays on pace he's a lock for it... and without an injury I don't see anyone taking him out of his game.

150? Where did you get that bs number?

rectal storage facility

.........Do not even try....Tomlinson is going to score 30+ TD's.....

I understand this is the Chiefs board but this is getting stupid LJ is a great player but Tomlinson is different there is no one like him he is HOF and one of the best ever,.

He's talking about last year, when LJ had 3 fewer carries, and nearly 300 more yards.

Tomlinson is a much better all around player

Why don't we just rename this thread the "Mecca Is An Idiot" thread and just save ourselves some time? You can argue that Tomlinson is a SLIGHTLY better overall player because of his receiving skills (I would argue that Johnson's size and ability to take the rock 30+ times a game would counterbalance that) but to say that he is a "much better" all around player is just wrong. Tomlinson is the #1 player in the NFL, followed by Larry at #1a.

dont play that game...everyone in the world knows Tomlinsons getting the ball, the defenses gameplan strictly for him, for his ENTIRE career, and he's amassing MVP numbers. yet you guys think LJ is getting more attention than tomlinson to opposing D's, thus the lower ypc and TDs.... whatever..

It was a guess number.....I know Johnson has more carries over the 2 year span.

Tomlinsons recieving skills aren't just a little better their vastly superior...

This taking the ball 30 times a game is bad not good it's how guys have 2 year careers.

I gave LJ the ball 40 times last night on Madden... still averaged 6.1 yards per carry and seemed healthy.

I don't get why people get so offended no one is saying LJ sucks.

It's not when he has 80 more carries than the next guy.....you left out the explanation part. When you lead the league in carries by a big margin you better be leading the league in rushing or something is wrong.

Larry Brown Jr. now starring in 100 Rifles 2.

HAHAHAhahaha. Hand LT the rock 35 times a game for 4 weeks and he'd look like a broken down New Orleans street whore. LJ takes it and asks for more; that's the definition of a work horse.

He couldn't handle as many hand offs as LJ gets.
He wouldn't do as well with them if he could.
He scores a lot because of the offensive scheme he is in, congrats.
League MVP goes to the player that has helped his team the most, and that my mental giant of a friend is LJ.

If you think LJ wins MVP over LT you're high.....I'm sorry. And like I said giving the ball to your back that many times isn't something to be proud of it's proven over history it's a good way to kill your back.

LT wil not win MVP... if Manning keeps winning and takes hit team to 15-1 he will be the MVP...

You do understand Tomlinsons gonna finish the year with about 34 TD's...and 2000+ total yards, I think he gets it this year.

Then we agree that LT would fall apart if given the ball that many times. GREAT!

LJ on the other hand seems to thrive in that very situation. Great players defy those things proven by history.

Yes, everyone knows that LT is getting the bal, but that offense is diverse, and defenses simply can not afford to stack the line and ignore the threat presented by Rivers and his receivers.

Mecca = closet Chargers fan

Wait till next year and the year after......every back that has carried over 400 times has never been the same even the following year.

Nope just honest.....Like I said LJ is a great player but thinking he's going to get MVP over LT or something like that is insane. What the Chiefs have done this year has been great for injuries and everything and LJ is having a great year and he's a great player but Tomlinson is having an MVP year.

Not exactly true, but it is a concern. Your statement is still wrong, however.

Actually, the only exception to the rule that Mecca talks about is Eric Dickerson.

Every other back that has run the ball as much as LJ has, has declined substantially the following year, and never played at the same level.

Go look up the stats......they all substantially decline after 400 + carries.

what receivers? I keep hearing on this board that gonzalez is better than Gates, and youd take kennision over any of ours WR's. So by admitting this, Gates is defnitely better than Gonzalez, and Mccardel is better than Kennison. Tomlinson faced stacked boxes his entire career with his OL changing every year, all of a sudden it's poor LJ.

I wrote an article on it yesterday. You're wrong.

Isn't that the battle cry of the loser?

You've been reading the homer posts.

If you guys really think you can give a guy 400 + carries and it will have no effect on him then there is no part in even argueing this......

And yea Tomlinson the guy who carries 300+ times a year catches 50 + balls a year even a 100 year year, there's no way he could take that many touches if he had to....right.

fixed your post

LJ still has 2 probowl gaurds, 1 i guess now, and a probowl center. Last year he had hall of famers all around. Tomlinson never had his one of his O-line go to the probowl. He's had UDFA's blocking for him a few years.

Bleeding Vagina Mecca is back....super

thread after thread of "I'm sorry if everyone but me is stupid...I root for USC"

I love how you can't have an opinion that contrasts or you're a fan of the other team......Jesus then people wonder why the homer card gets pulled.

Wow, that is some astounding logic. Paragraph 1 you make the point that no one could take it. Paragraph 2 you make the point your boy could. You should have stuck with the "Wait until next year!" stand, it made you look less doltish.

And he would probably decline the next year.......the point isn't that "you can't take it" the point is when you do you will decline in the following seasons.....

Even milk pointed this out, but just ignore him too.

There's a difference between "carries" and "touches".

When Tomlinson touches the ball as a receiver, he usually gets it in space and doesn't take the physical beating he does when he carries the ball.

If you factor in total touches Larry Johnson may come close to 500 which is ridiculous.

So now we have boiled your "LT is better" debate down to your opinoin that LJ will burn out at some point in the future. Good thing this years league MVP doesn't take next year into account. I"m not even sure what you are arguing at this point, you are all over the place with your "points" and none of them are good.

And yeah, I'll ignore Milk too :)

Man you chiefs fans are jealous
 

Nevermind......you don't even grasp the concept.

....Don't include me.....

As far as I'm concerned, MVP is nothing more than a popularity contest and I couldn't give a rat's ass who wins it.

That is situational. The most brutal hits tend to be on receivers in space, not backs between the tackles. A receiver going for a ball is a fair target and can't defend himself. As LJ put it, it's the difference between giving hits and taking them. That being said running back stend to wear out faster, but it's because few receivers come down with "touches" outside of the teens. It's total touches that wear people down and LT is on the edge for his physical ability to withstand it. LJ is in love with the attention he gets during the game and it hasn't shown on him at all.

Receivers are running routes that put them in situations that lead to those brutal hits.

Tomlinson generally doesn't.

TG is better than AG. Difference is TG is double teamed every play as our recievers aren't a huge threat while SD has recievers that can be deep threats, as wel as LT who is a recieving threat...Another reason why teams have stacked the box against LJ. Trent Gre wa out 10 weeks and teams knew we were gonna run the ball more. With SD, they run a lot with LT but they can do so many other things that will burn defenses if they stack the box. Teams couldn't stack the box against Priest because KC did so many different things and they would get burned, Teams have been able to stack the box against LJ the majority of the season and he still leads the league in rushing..'nuff said

Yards from scrimmage

L Tomlinson 1602
L Johnson 1551
F Gore 1500

Touchdowns

L Tomlinson 24
L Johnson 17
Gore 7

Not to mention the fact that LT has a finess style of running and avoids contact, where LJ runs right through people and takes 100x more abuse than LT.



Oh, and I hope LT enjoys that fastest to 100 tds record because LJ is on pace to shatter the hell out of it..