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petegz28 12-27-2006 09:02 AM

Your Post-Season Cuts Here....
 
Who would you cut after Sunday?

Tynes, Wesley, Knight, Bell, Hall, Hicks, Turley, Cunningham, Solari, ST Coach

Zouk 12-27-2006 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28
Who would you cut after Sunday?

Tynes, Wesley, Knight, Bell, Hall, Hicks, Turley, Cunningham, Solari, ST Coach

Law, Wesley, Knight, Hicks, Sims, Turley, Priefer.

Hall only if we get Ted Ginn Jr. (which is what I'm hoping for).

Herm, Solari, and Gunther are fine.

Simplex3 12-27-2006 09:09 AM

Hmmmm, I think I'm going to go with "Yes" here, Bob.

Bob Dole 12-27-2006 09:09 AM

petegz28 and Zouk would be a good start.

Archie Bunker 12-27-2006 09:11 AM

Cuts-Brown, Gardner, Hall, Turley, Sims, Hicks, Bell, maybe Wesley.

FA I'd let walk-Parker, Sapp, Walls, Sampson, Huard

Simplex3 12-27-2006 09:12 AM

I think we should go all "Madden" on the roster. Trade every player we have for draft picks, then draft all the kickers in the later rounds so that we can force teams to trade us the few good players we didn't get! We'll have 30 quality rookies and we'll be kicking ass in their second season! We'll just chuck the ball deep on every play! We'll win the Super Bowl every year, then draft nothing but kickers and keep getting the best rookies in trades!

F**K YEAH!

petegz28 12-27-2006 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole
petegz28 and Zouk would be a good start.


Santa must not of been nice to Bob Dole heh?

Hammock Parties 12-27-2006 09:23 AM

There's no one out there better than Tynes, sorry.

Cunningham and Solari ain't going anywhere, either. You can probably bet on Wesley and Hall sticking too.

Redrum_69 12-27-2006 09:25 AM

CUT THE DAMN DEVIL HIMSELF OTHERWISE KNOWN AS CARL PETERSON!1313123

RealSNR 12-27-2006 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28
Who would you cut after Sunday?

Tynes, Wesley, Knight, Bell, Hall, Hicks, Turley, Cunningham, Solari, ST Coach

All of those guys are longtime Chiefs. The only way they leave the team is if they get cut in TC for being outperformed. A fate I hope is true for Hicks.

The coaches are going to stay. No head coach fires his assistants after one year on the job.

DMAC 12-27-2006 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR
No head coach fires his assistants after one year on the job.

Goonther's not a first year.

ROYC75 12-27-2006 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker
Cuts-Brown, Gardner, Hall, Turley, Sims, Hicks, Bell, maybe Wesley.

FA I'd let walk-Parker, Sapp, Walls, Sampson, Huard


I'm all for keeping Sapp and Sampson, both were injured alot this year.... I say let's give them another year.

Bowser 12-27-2006 10:34 AM

TRENT GREEN!! TRENT GREEN!!! TRENT GREEN!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! [/Hootie]

Wile_E_Coyote 12-27-2006 10:43 AM

Wesley, Gunther & don't try & re-sign Huard. Huard will only be a fan induced headache

Hoover 12-27-2006 10:47 AM

I guess these really are not cuts, but this is the direction I would go.

I'd let Tony G walk. The Chiefs don't need to overpay anyone just to make sure he's a Chief for life. While Tony had a great run during a handful of games, Iwe should not be willing to over pay. Heck let Tony walk and bring in Eric Johnson from San Fran

Green can come back as long as his deal is cap friendly. We need to start looking towards the future at the QB position. I'd like for Green to play one more year, but we need to get our young pup ready.

We need to continue the yough movement on Defense, through the draft.

On offense I think we need to sign for FA linemen. LT is a must, but I think equally important is a center. The Center of the Oline seems to be weak.

AT WR

Rain Man 12-27-2006 10:55 AM

Let's not rebuild. Let's reload. We've only got overt weaknesses at a few positions.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-27-2006 10:55 AM

I've always thought you should keep drafting defense, keep your defense young and fast.
Build your offense through free agency with proven playmakers.
I would cut Green now that he's retarted though.

TinyEvel 12-27-2006 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole
petegz28 and Zouk would be a good start.

ROFL

tyton75 12-27-2006 11:06 AM

Jordan "I-65" Black needs to go home!!

Kylo Ren 12-27-2006 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28
Who would you cut after Sunday?

Tynes, Wesley, Knight, Bell, Hall, Hicks, Turley, Cunningham, Solari, ST Coach

Not Tynes. He's a young kicker with a good leg. He'll get better.

Dante Hall is just fine. Some years he has blockers and some years he doesn't. The coaching staff will look at the video tape and tell him to get upfield quicker, make yardage, not dance so much and not look for the TD so much. He'll get more TDs by not trying so hard to make every return a TD. That seems odd, but true. He'll be fine.

Wesley - cut / trade if possible

Knight - he'd be good to keep for depth, or just cut / trade if possible

Bell - he'd be good to keep for depth if he'd take a pay cut, or just cut him / trade if possible

Hicks - GONE! See ya' buddy.

Turley - probably not worth keeping even for depth

Solari will get better

ST coach - get someone else

Cunningham - I'm still a Gunther fan.

TinyEvel 12-27-2006 11:10 AM

Dee fucking Brown.
And Hicks. And Sims.

And Maybe Ty Law. I'm sick of seeing the game announcers introduce our DBs as "The most experienced, collectively, in the NFL" and then watch teams (like the MOTHERfuckING CLEVELAND BROWNS!!) pass against us.

CosmicPal 12-27-2006 11:13 AM

Cut the whole damn team. Except, keep the youngsters who actually act like they want to play some damn football: Allen, Hali, D.J., Page, and all of the rookies.

Unload the damn house, set an example, and use the money to get motivated players whose motors never quit. Don't overpay them. And then produce another draft as successful as the last one where every player makes the team from the 1st to the Last.

Challenge the assistance coaches to perform better and to get more out of their players or get rid of them too.

I don't think I've ever been so sick of a team's carelessness and neglect at the most important part of the season. Every guy on that team should be down on their knees and embracing Huard for keeping this season alive.

When it comes draft time: Draft nothing but linemen on both sides of the ball. Pick up free agents in all the skill positions, but get the best guys available along both sides of the line for the future.

Most importantly- get guys who NEVER quit on themselves, but more importantly on their TEAM.

Redrum_69 12-27-2006 11:15 AM

I dont see Larry Johnson's name on the list to keep..Cosmic....


are you saying we should trade/release LJ?

CosmicPal 12-27-2006 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Redrum_69
I dont see Larry Johnson's name on the list to keep..Cosmic....


are you saying we should trade/release LJ?

The guy doesn't play every down. There is nothing more evident than watching L.J. run with authority and L.J. not giving a shit. When he runs with authority, he runs over people. When he doesn't give a shit, he runs up to the line, rolls alongside the backs of the linemen, and gets tackled by the first guy to touch him.

Don't get me wrong, L.J. is a great back and I'd like to keep him, but he's becoming the next T.O. He's whining about everyone else and he only shows up when he feels like it.

crazycoffey 12-27-2006 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicPal
The guy doesn't play every down. There is nothing more evident than watching L.J. run with authority and L.J. not giving a shit. When he runs with authority, he runs over people. When he doesn't give a shit, he runs up to the line, rolls alongside the backs of the linemen, and gets tackled by the first guy to touch him.

Don't get me wrong, L.J. is a great back and I'd like to keep him, but he's becoming the next T.O. He's whining about everyone else and he only shows up when he feels like it.


I gotta say, I too see the anger turned to apathy in LJ's running style.

Wile_E_Coyote 12-27-2006 11:39 AM

the dude is more tired than angry. How many carries is he up to now? He has already broken the Chiefs record for carries in a season

Rick 12-27-2006 12:11 PM

GONE

Hicks
Sims
Turley (wait & see what his offseason is like)
Brown
Huard (since Croyle is here)
Walls
Browning
Ron Edwards
Welbourne (Chris Terry might just be a good find)
*if Shield retires Welbourne might stay at guard.
Cruz (is he worth keeping after big injury?)
Gardner
Steve Williams


TRADE FIRST; CUT SECOND

Wesley
Parker


NEW STARTERS

Keyaron Fox
Bernard Pollard
Jarrod Paige
2 receivers yet to be signed
3rd corner yet to be signed
DT from the draft or FA
OT from draft or FA


OTHER THOUGHTS

Green MIGHT have a year left but if the offensive line isn't drastically improved he will fail. Too old to make his own plays, he is an accurate QB in a system like Saunders'----not Solari's. He has always been successful because his pants were never dirty after the game was over in the last 4 years.

Wesley does a great job hitting-------AFTER the catch is made. Paige and Pollard MUST start next year.

Would Ty Law be a 3rd corner????????

Franchise tag Tony G. If there are any takers at that point--what do you do???????

Shields retiring won't kill us as much any more. I've watched him get beat this year much more than normal----if he stays, great.

Chiefs better get themselves a good blocking fullback to help with pass protection.

Bowser 12-27-2006 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover
I'd let Tony G walk. The Chiefs don't need to overpay anyone just to make sure he's a Chief for life. While Tony had a great run during a handful of games, Iwe should not be willing to over pay. Heck let Tony walk and bring in Eric Johnson from San Fran

Thanks, Keitzman.

Look, Gonzalez isn't going anywhere. He is in the Derrick Thomas pantheon of Carl Peterson successful draft picks, and will most likely retire a Chief. No way Carl lets him walk.

And besides, if he DOES walk, I'll bet a hundred bucks that Gonzo would end up with Marty in San Diego. How much fun would that be, trying to gameplan for LaDanian Tomlinson, Antonio Gates, and Tony Gonzalez?

el borracho 12-27-2006 12:17 PM

I would cut the following:
 
OT- Bober, Turley and Welbourne (and Shields probably retires)
WR- Gardner
DT- Sims
DE- Hicks
QB- Huard
RB- Brown
S- Knight
CB- Sapp

In order for this to happen, the Chiefs would have to draft at least two Olinemen early and probably have to slide one of our extra tackles over to guard. We would also need to draft either a DT or a WR early to improve ourselves there which leaves the second day of the draft for a WR or DT (whichever we don't take early), a DE, a CB and a S. All possible as long as Peterless doesn't do anything stupid.

BigRedChief 12-27-2006 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover
I'd let Tony G walk. The Chiefs don't need to overpay anyone just to make sure he's a Chief for life. While Tony had a great run during a handful of games, Iwe should not be willing to over pay. Heck let Tony walk and bring in Eric Johnson from San Fran

Thats what NE would do.

Rain Man 12-27-2006 12:39 PM

I think I would keep all of these guys unless or until we prove in training camp that someone else is better.

FringeNC 12-27-2006 12:44 PM

The Three Stooges: Carl, Herm, Gun.

penguinz 12-27-2006 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28
Who would you cut after Sunday?

Tynes, Wesley, Knight, Bell, Hall, Hicks, Turley, Cunningham, Solari, ST Coach

How can you cut someone who is not under contract at the end of the season?

Mecca 12-27-2006 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man
Let's not rebuild. Let's reload. We've only got overt weaknesses at a few positions.

I'd like to hear the positions we have that are a strength......we have more weaknesses than strengths......

Chris Meck 12-27-2006 01:42 PM

I'd cut:

Wesley, Bell, Hicks, Knight, Law.

I'd assume that these guys will be gone via F.A. or retirement:
Shields, Huard, Sims (we wouldn't even try to re-sign him).

Hall is fine, his blocking hasn't really been there much.

I'd try to re-sign: Mitchell, Gonzales, Tynes.

I'd concentrate in the draft on DT, OT, CB, WR.

I'd probably look in FA for an upgrade at LT and/or RT. Perhaps Terry is the answer at RT, and that would be nice if so.

I'd look at Black as a G if you can upgrade LT. I think he's a good player, I just think that he's out of position at the pro level. His arms are a little short and his lateral quickness is just average. I think he could be a fine guard.

I'd prefer to fix DT in the draft if possible, as I'd like to concentrate on getting younger there; it will need to be our strength in '08.

Bring Trent back one more year, promote Brody to #2. Another year of learning, taking the #2 snaps and hopefully putting a little weight on will ease him in.

I like Wilson at FB/H-Back. I think we could utilize him MORE, and his blocking has improved. I'd like to see more play-action passing, particularly on 1st down.

The biggest keys will be the hand-off to the young safety tandem and upgrading the DT situation. We're weak up the middle on defense, so the cover 2 style defense has been spotty.

You guys that want to draft a first round WR are being silly; nobody'd have enough time to find them downfield with our pass blocking. Fix the lines first and THEN your playmakers can make plays. If you have a good enough line, you can do just fine with only decent WR's.

just my .02

Mecca 12-27-2006 01:43 PM

I'd like to hear one good reason we should keep Mitchell.....and "we don't have anyone else" isn't a good reason.

Hammock Parties 12-27-2006 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
I'd like to hear one good reason we should keep Mitchell.....and "we don't have anyone else" isn't a good reason.

If they're going to sign Donnie Edwards it's probably a good idea to dump him. Otherwise...HTF is out there?

Mecca 12-27-2006 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs
If they're going to sign Donnie Edwards it's probably a good idea to dump him. Otherwise...HTF is out there?

We aren't winning a Superbowl next year......overpaying for an average player like Mitchell is a bad idea in general, it's a real bad idea when your team is more or less in transition.

Hammock Parties 12-27-2006 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
We aren't winning a Superbowl next year......overpaying for an average player like Mitchell is a bad idea in general, it's a real bad idea when your team is more or less in transition.

That's just ****ing great, Mecca. We drafted him in 2003 and we dump him three years later and start over with another young guy?

Archie Bunker 12-27-2006 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs
If they're going to sign Donnie Edwards it's probably a good idea to dump him. Otherwise...HTF is out there?

I think that is exactly what they are going to do. Carl gets to correct his "mistake" and stick it to Marty at the same time.

Hammock Parties 12-27-2006 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker
I think that is exactly what they are going to do. Carl gets to correct his "mistake" and stick it to Marty at the same time.

I look forward to Mecca's posts next year telling us how old and overrated Donnie Edwards is. He'll be the Ty Law of linebackers!

penguinz 12-27-2006 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker
I think that is exactly what they are going to do. Carl gets to correct his "mistake" and stick it to Marty at the same time.

How is it 'sticking it to Marty'? It is not like we would be stealing him from SD. SD is not bringing him back.

penguinz 12-27-2006 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs
I look forward to Mecca's posts next year telling us how old and overrated Donnie Edwards is. He'll be the Ty Law of linebackers!

don't knock Mecca. He is a proven football expert. ;)

Zouk 12-27-2006 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
I'd like to hear one good reason we should keep Mitchell.....and "we don't have anyone else" isn't a good reason.


Over the course of the season I've come to believe that Kendrell Bell is a better football player than Kawika Mitchell. I'd like to see the Chiefs let Kawika walk, move Kendrell back to his natural spot in the middle, and let Keyaron play SAM.

KCChiefsMan 12-27-2006 02:05 PM

Larry Johnson, Brian Waters, Jared Allen, Derrick Johnson and Tamba Hali

KCChiefsMan 12-27-2006 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zouk
Over the course of the season I've come to believe that Kendrell Bell is a better football player than Kawika Mitchell. I'd like to see the Chiefs let Kawika walk, move Kendrell back to his natural spot in the middle, and let Keyaron play SAM.

since when is Bell's natural spot in the middle?

Zouk 12-27-2006 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan
since when is Bell's natural spot in the middle?


Since he played there in college at Georgia and his first 4 years in the pros with the Steelers.

Uncle_Ted 12-27-2006 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan
since when is Bell's natural spot in the middle?

He played one of the ILB spots in the Steelers 3-4 defense.

Chiefnj 12-27-2006 02:13 PM

I'd have a fire sale this offseason and try to trade as many players as possible.

If Green wants to play one more year, I'll take a 2nd day pick for him.

If Dante is unhappy, I'd try to get a 3rd rounder for him.

Tony, tag your it, then you are listed on ebay the next day for the highest bidder.

LJ, sign a contract extension, if not you are on the trading block.

Jared Allen needs a come to Jesus talk as well. I presume he'll miss the first 4 games of 2007 if he is found guilty of his 2nd DUI offense. If I hear he is still out partying, etc., he's on the trading block as well.

Players not back in 2007 because of cuts, contracts, etc.: Sims, Welbourn, Knight, Turley, Bober, Gardner, Hicks.

Mecca 12-27-2006 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs
That's just ****ing great, Mecca. We drafted him in 2003 and we dump him three years later and start over with another young guy?

He's not good enough.......Like has been said by me before he's not even in the top 20 of MLB's how that justifies a new contract is beyond me. I could careless that he's young he's not good.

Alphaman 12-27-2006 02:30 PM

I'd look to trade the following, I think they have some trade value:

Greg Wesley
Dante Hall
Priest Holmes (if medically cleared to play)


I'd cut Sims, Turley and Bell.

Players who would likely get cut after training camp do to younger/better talent acquired via FA or the draft:

Hicks
Gardner
Scanlon
Bober
Dee Brown
Ronnie Cruz

Mecca 12-27-2006 02:31 PM

All this trade stuff...the only player that anyone has mentioned to trade with any sort of value is Hall and it's like 5th/6th round value.

88TG88 12-27-2006 02:33 PM

sims and hicks need to be cut as soon as possible

petegz28 12-27-2006 04:34 PM

Ok I am for keeping Hall for returens and as a 4th receiver. We need someon a little taller than him to throw too. I can think of several catches he makes if he is taller. We have to have a taller receiver to play the slot.

siberian khatru 12-27-2006 04:36 PM

My wrists.

suds79 12-27-2006 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
All this trade stuff...the only player that anyone has mentioned to trade with any sort of value is Hall and it's like 5th/6th round value.

Yeah I'd agree with that.

If we can get anything for Hall, take it.

Otherwise, cut him.

tk13 12-27-2006 05:08 PM

The Dante thing is just like the Trent Green thing... maybe it would help to replace some of the people blocking for him.

And not that Dee Brown is a legend, but he is our 2nd leading special teams tackler, he does bring something to the table. He actually has more tackles on the season than Pollard, and Pollard plays defense. We need to improve our special teams too. I mean really, among all the other regrets, if we make two key special teams plays: stopping a fake punt, and not screwing up a blocked punt, we take 14 points off the board against San Diego, maybe we're in line for a playoff spot.

PinkFloyd 12-27-2006 07:24 PM

We need to sign Moss and Warren Sapp... We need to lure Deon Sanders out of retirement... Do a complete transplant on Gannon from the spinal cord up to protect his neck... Convince Andre Johnson of the Texans, and Roy Williams of the Lions that KC is the place you wanna be... If those two don't work out --- convince Rison to come out of retirement !!









ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

Tribal Warfare 12-27-2006 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs
That's just ****ing great, Mecca. We drafted him in 2003 and we dump him three years later and start over with another young guy?


I'm kinda with Mecca on this one, because then KC could slide DJ at MLB, Key Fox at WSLB, and the (pipe dream) Kris Griffin will pan out at SSLB

doomy3 12-27-2006 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
I'd like to hear one good reason we should keep Mitchell.....and "we don't have anyone else" isn't a good reason.


We don't have anyone else :shake:

milkman 12-27-2006 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs
I look forward to Mecca's posts next year telling us how old and overrated Donnie Edwards is. He'll be the Ty Law of linebackers!

I do better than that.

Donnie Edwards should be a Cowboy, cause he rides RBs like a bull at the rodeo.

milkman 12-27-2006 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
He's not good enough.......Like has been said by me before he's not even in the top 20 of MLB's how that justifies a new contract is beyond me. I could careless that he's young he's not good.

The problem is, we don't have anyone else.

I wholeheartedly agree, we need to upgrade the position, but there are so many positions that need to be upgraded, Kawika's has to be low on the priority list.

Keep him, if possible, but don't overpay.


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