Edwards promises offensive changes for Chiefs
 

...but Solari stays.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/16406684.htm

By Adam Teicher

McClatchy Newspapers

(MCT)

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - One day after a pathetic performance bounced his team from the playoffs, Herm Edwards promised offensive changes for the Chiefs in 2007.

Edwards said he couldn't be specific about many of the changes because they are still to be decided. But he indicated they would probably include a different scheme_and maybe a new starting quarterback.

They won't include a new coordinator. Edwards said Mike Solari would continue in that job no matter what type of offense the Chiefs use.

Edwards also said defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham and the rest of his assistant coaches would be welcome to return next season.

Edwards has contemplated changes through the course of a bumpy offensive season. Saturday's 23-8 loss to the Colts in a first-round playoff game in Indianapolis helped drive home the point.

The Chiefs had 126 yards and failed to get a first down until their eighth possession.

"We didn't handle their speed real well," Edwards said.

"We have to take a hard look at ourselves. You have to be realistic and ask yourself if we're really capable of (successfully running their current system). I want to make sure of one thing: Whatever type of system we run, young players have to be able to play. They can't wait a year or two to get on the field. I don't want to be in a situation where young guys who have some talent can't play because the system is too complex.

"There are some things we do very well. There are things we can do even better. That's what I'm talking about here: How do we do these things better? It's not a laundry list of things. These are just things that allow us to get the football to the right players."

Edwards said the Chiefs would keep their power running game centered on Larry Johnson and a play-action passing game. But they will simplify by cutting back on the number of plays and their complexities.

Those changes would be aimed toward making things easier for younger players. Edwards wouldn't identify those players he would like to play more next season, but he may have been talking about rookie wide receivers Jeff Webb and Chris Hannon and perhaps even rookie quarterback Brodie Croyle.

"I just know it has to be player-friendly," Edwards said. "It has to be something that young players at all positions can play. I want to give the quarterback even more ability to change some things at the line of scrimmage. I want him to have the ability to get to anything we have right now.

Edwards wouldn't address the issue of whether Trent Green would return as the starting quarterback. Green's play dropped off significantly this season after he missed eight games because of a concussion.

"That's not even something we're discussing right now," Edwards said. "There are a whole lot of other things we have to do as far as the program before we start worrying about player situations. That's second on the agenda."

But his refusal to back Green, who will turn 37 next summer, speaks loudly. The conservative Edwards believes in ball control above all. Green committed three turnovers in the final regular-season game against Jacksonville and three more in the loss to the Colts.

He had no such hesitation about supporting Solari, a career offensive-line coach until promoted to coordinator by Edwards this season.

"I told Mike today that he did a good job for his first year," Edwards said. "That's a tough seat he's sitting in. A lot of the things that happened to us - losing some players, losing the quarterback_affected him. He had never called an offensive play. That's hard. He will be so much better next year. It won't even be close.

"Mike's the guy. He's going to be a heck of an offensive coordinator. Next year will be a lot different for him. I was so much better my second year as a head coach. He'll gain more confidence. He knows me better now. Mike had to learn the passing game. You don't learn that in a year unless you're a coordinator. He was an offensive-line coach. That's something he had to go through."

Edwards also said he was pleased with how he and Cunningham worked together.

"We think a whole lot alike as far as the things we want to get done," he said. "I know people think he's blitz-crazy, but he's really not. He's got to do what the players allow him to do."

changes to the offense? Like what? Passing the ball?

Simplifying the offense is good idea. One reason we are so old on O is that it is too complex for players to pick up quickly.

How about changing the Head Coach? Or how about changing the General Manager?

Cut down on the number of plays???

Instead of Run right, left, then middle-we go to run it up the middle every time.


Herm told Mike he did a nice job?? Herm is a stoopid Mother Fugger!!! Solari was by far the worst in the NFL.

Herm is quickly becoming the most hated Coach in Chiefs history. I can't wait til we get rid of this fugnut.

The plan was simplified this year.................
 

when Huard played. But I digress.

I heard 1 thing I liked. Give the QB more room to check off the play. This goes back to Saunders and that system. The QB is very limited in what he can audbile and when.

I remember hearing this before..

Tell the Jets we will give them our whole draft if they take Herm, Carl, and Solari.

We would instantly be a better team.

I say we have Trent Retire. Make him Offensive Coordinator. Trent really couldn't do anything he wanted to do on offense. He made all of those plays when he was hurt and not a one of them used. Bring up Brodie, and let him chuck it.

The guy plays like he is still hearing bells ringing in his head and you want to use plays he wrote up just 2 weeks after the concussion?
:shake:

How the **** do you simplify run left, run right and pass on 3rd down? Jesus, how much more can Edwards simplify his game plan? He has the most predictable playbook in town, now he wants to make it easier? **** renewing my Sunday Ticket! I would rather staple my own foreskin to my forehead than watch another game directed by this idiot....

Maybe trying quick routes and quick passes.....it only works when they actually do it.

:banghead:

The feeling of not having hope had been killing me for 5 years after watching and hearing this shit..the man is a fraud.

Can we give you to the Jets BB so we can instantly become a better community?

LMAO

No shit!

His press conferences give me a headache. I hated him with the Jets-the day we traded for him my friend called up and was laughing. I thought he was joking. Unfortunately the joke was on the loyal Chiefs fans. We have ZERO hope for next year.

What the hell are you talking about?

HalfWit's idea is the best idea I've seen all day.

I'm all for it.

roflmao

That's funny

How about we put a Bush mask on you and give you to Iraq instead.

Hide all sharp objects.

The problem is Peterson...he has to be shit canned...he's drinking the Hermy Kool-aid just like Bradway did..

Even better than trading Gonzo and a #1 for Benchwarmer Porter??

And I have not even watched the Colts game yet. :)

Uh...no, I take it all back.

:banghead:

Now I didn't say trade a #1 I said a draft pick

Wouldn't that be considered an adjustment? Herm doesn't do adjustments. He just stands there on the sideline looking like he doesn't know where he is.

ROFL sorry to misqoute you.

You're big on style points I see.

Herm had your team a kick away from the AFC title game, but you're happier with a 21 point Wild Card loss as long as you get a lot of flashy pre-snap motion and disguised blitzes designed to make the coaches look like geniuses.

(Don't even mention that your talent was much better then, because in 2004 Pennington was playing in the playoffs with a torn rotator cuff, and Herm was starting Mark Brown and Reggie Tongue on D)

It'll all come down to who's playing deep in January the next few years - Mangini or Herm. That's all that will decide who's better - not how they talk in press conferences, not who calls more passes - just who wins. We'll see.

I would trade you a 1st day draft pick for Westhoff though - that's the guy we really need.

Yep the deer in the headlights pic was classic.

Are you my ****ing stalker??

The more you post..the more clueless you look..the Jets would be at least 7-9 with hermy, probably worse..you need to watch more Jet games and get over your stats..you were probably waving your Herm POM-POMS on saturday..right??

I love how Teicher created a QB issue out of thin air. Good God, the KC media is a joke.

A kick away??we had 2 td's from an int and punt return against the steelers..we scored 17 points..sound familiar??we should have blown them out..like the patriots did..

I can't believe a word this jerknut is saying. Herm said in his first press conference when he was hired, that he wasn't going to change the offense. Ah, i dont know about you, but it looks alot different to me, and the players back that up.

So now I'm supposed to believe he's going to make positive changes?

I'm sure Herm is a good guy and all, but **** him.

Here's to another frustrating season of Chiefs football
:shake:

You should know better.

Herm POM-POMS never get off the ground.

I like that idea.

Sorry man, don't mean to stalk. I just get sensitive when I see Jets fans try to turn Chiefs fans off Herm.

I'll give it a rest for a while. Season's over.

OMG, this guy is an idiot!

He is a terrible coach, he reminds me of Gun when he was head coach. He really has no vision for this team, there is no identity. He said the system would change even with the same coordinator? How is that possible? Solari only knows the Coryell system. Does he want this team to have any identity at all? He's a playstation head coach. Anybody can run put on a head set and run the ball 50 times a game. I do that with LJ and it does me good, but the problem is Hermy, this is real life.

I'm sorry, but the guy sounds like he doesn't have a clue.

:thumb: thank you!!

He doesn't have to try, Herman ****ing Edwards can manage that all by his lonesome, thank you.

Trent knows this offense better than anyone on this team, including coaches. Why he was never allowed to change plays at the line like Manning I have not the wildest clue.

He needs to become an offensive coordinator IMO. I dont think it will happen though because I bet the guy has a TV deal for NFL network or something like that when he hangs them up.

And he even said he's never really wanted to be a head coach. Why the **** would someone wanna hire a guy like that?

Yep Chiefs fans hate Herm because of Bill. ROFL Damm Bill your Mojo is powerful.

He didn't turn us off Herm. We got to see Herm's act for ourselves. At the time, the Colts had 22 first downs and we had none. What did Herm do about it? Nothing. Ya want him back?

He's a nOOb..he don't know me..I usually avoid the Herm threads..but after watching saturdays game..I can't control myself..heh..sorry..old habits die hard..heh..

I bet some where in this country Herm owns a Bed n' Breakfast.

I always get a kick out of n00bs calling others n00bs.

Even the good n00bs like you Bill.

I agree. He did the exact same thing when Vermeil was here. Peterson is the kinda GM that'll ride the pines of the coaches.

Every coach we had from Marty, Vermeil, to Herm...Each one of those coaches had specialized on 1 side of the ball, and was lackluster on the other. Peterson of course rode the pine, and didn't support ANY of these coaches for their lack of knowledge on 1 side of the ball. As a result, were always dominating on 1 side of the ball, crap on the other.

Ever notice that with the Chiefs? They either have a good defense or a good offense. It's one or the other. That's why we always been mediocre. It's not a coincedence. It's an imcompetent GM riding the pine of the coaches. And not being able to take control of the team and properly and throughly build it the way a competent GM would.

*But I think its also the organization for being stupid enough to keep him here. Why keep a GM who consistently builds mediocre teams? It tells you something about this organization as a whole in general.

Parcells should be viewed by us as the Obi Wan Kenobi of Jets fans. He's shown us the future, it's our own damned fault if we don't want to see what he's shown us.

Hopefully you'll be changing the location "Leading the Marty Bashing" to "Leading the Herm/Carl bashing"

No.
You're the first one to notice.

We need a thorough house cleaning. New GMs, new coaches, new everything.

Why must our team always be terrible?

I gotta change that.

How about "The HermaNation of Mediocrity"?

It all starts at the top..Lamar was awesome..without him..there would be no AFC or NY Jets..but..there comes a time where you have to try and please the fans..it gets so ****ing frustrating..I went from Kotite to Parcells...and then from Parcells to Herm..thats how drastically you notice the difference in performance..HOPE was lost with me when Kotite and Herm were hired..it was regained with the hiring of Parcells and Mangini...

LOL..Your the man Milk!!

Yeah, it's no good to be miserable in a playoff melt-down. You have to be miserable the entire season in order to be a true Chiefs fan

Nothing wrong with taking out the Coach, but I think we can fry the bigger fish.

I mean, gotta start at the top, and ultimately, that's Carl Peterson.

I'll reserve for next year. I say trent atleast comes back 1 more year and def. fights for the top spot. Cause we have nothing but Croyle left and no way he is ready for next year to be the starter.

Let me get this straight. We struggled because we were far too simple on offense, and the solution is to get even simpler?

I second that!
 

Trent calling the plays can't be bad I'm sure he could do better than Solari! Sounds good to me! Let's do it!

Herm apparently thinks the whole KC fan base are simpletons.

Yeah, it doesnt read well does it???

I think what he really means is that he wants a huge influx of young players for 07 & the only way he can do it is to simplify the system.

He said NOTHING about the situational playcalling, which of course is the real culprit.

Refering to WR's and passing game.

If this offense is so hard to learn, how was Martz able to take the Rams from about the worst offense in the league to the best his first year?

Herm dont bother me yet. He did an ok job, he mad some choices that were questionable.

He needs to learn if you have a offense that can put up points, let them freaking do it.

Didn't they trade for Faulk, have Bruce and drafted Holt?! 3 incredible talents!

And Warner, plus had all-world Pace at LT.

he didn't have quite so much luck with the Lions though did he?

Maybe it had something to do with the players he had. Bruce, Holt, Faulk, etc...Not too bat of a nucleus to build that type of offense around in St. Louis

If Kurt Warner can immediately pick up the offense, why can't Brodie Croyle? Herm is so full of shit...

Throw in Orlando Pace & that IS a recipe for quick success

Sure, they had talent, but that's not the issue. They had a lot of young players who didn't know the system.....yet immediately learned it and were able to execute it flawlessly...and Herm is telling us that's impossible...

Are you serious right now? Warner had been around football much longer and picked many more offenses than Croyle. There is something to be said for experience. Warner had played several years in football after college, unlike Croyle. Plus, Croyle was hurt for most of camp.

There is a HUGE difference between Pace and Black learning the system. Or Holt and Jeff Webb.

And Croyle played in this offense in college....

You're missing the point. No one is saying experience doesn't matter. Herm is making an assertion that our offense is too complicated for our young players to learn. The reality of the situation is that our offense is too complicated for someone as IQ-challenged as Herm Edwards to understand. Herm simply does not understand the concept of game theory (optimal strategies), and thinks football is only about hitting people in the mouth.

Herm still has that old school players mentality.

Why? Do we draft low IQ guys? Did Webb have a bad Wonderlic? Sure, he may not have the talent of Holt, but that doesn't mean he can't learn the offense.

You guys would finish in last place if you had Croyle starting this, or next year.

He's a talented kid, but he's got a lot of development to go through, including physical, before you want to put him in charge of an offense. The only thing starting him too early is going to do is destroy his confidence.

If he was a guy who could be ready in year one or two, he'd have been a first or second round pick. The reason he fell to the third round is that everyone in the league knew he was a developmental prospect. He could be a solid starter someday with that arm if he's given the time he needs to fill out and get up to speed.

Kurt played in the arena leagues most of his career, which isn't exactly the NFL.

I agree, but it is still something. He had to learn new offenses when he played arena. There is something to be said about experience. The point is that he wasn't a 21 year old kid out of college that was making the jump from a simple college offense to the most complex offensive scheme in the NFL. Especially, like TJ said, when you are talking about a 3rd round QB, one who was hurt all through training camp at that.