KC or Denver? Where Would You Rather Live?
 

And why? I'd appreciate most the opinions of those who've lived in both locations.

Thanks.

I've lived in both and now live in St. Louis, anything else I can say?

Answering the question posed would be a good start.

Denver.

I live in Denver now and have spent the vast majority of my life in KC. I love KC, it's a great place in many ways with a lot of fantastic perks which people living elsewhere don't know about. That said, the weather, mountains, and larger metropolitan area here in Denver offer things KC can't match.

You can tell us why Denver sucks a nut.

Well, dingle dork, my sarcastic remark was that I lived in both and now choose to live else where. Like they both suck.

Actually, though I was about to give you a better answer, so here it is;

Colorado is beautiful, and I loved living in the mountains more than living in Denver proper. I hated living in Denver, dirty. But two smaller cities, one closer to the mountains (Ft. collins) and the other in the mountains (Poudre Park) were wonderful. The mountains, the river, the clean air. I really liked it. I was younger and my friends and I didn't want to root for Denver (a good sign, right?) So we all started to root for the Raiders (sorry planet - don't worry I was a chief fan then too, my real dad lived in MO, I was here every summer. Since I just shared that information I should also say I haven't rooted for oakland since Al mistreated Marcus Allen)

KC has more depth, culture, Jazz, etc. as a city it seems more enjoyable, to me. I haven't lived in KC personally, but lived pretty close and have friends that have and do now.

St. louis is not by personal choice, it's temporary, as was Dallas.

Thank you.

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I really do have a sort of love affair with Kansas City. I can't fathom Denver offering me a better choice to reside in.

Denver would be a great place if it wasn't for all the stoopid Cheatin Donk fans.

KC. Since I'm not a kid anymore hoping for school to be canceled, I prefer less snow. Also, theare more days of warm water for swimming and boating in the KC area as opposed to the Denver area.

Ive never been to either place but the answer is simple. KC has great Barbeque, Denver has snow and is colder than shit (while KC is just as cold as shit). KC gets my vote.

I've lived in both.

IMO, there is a bigger sense of community in KC.

Exactly. I lived in Denver for only a few months, but I never felt "at home" there, hence why I didn't stay.

Oddly, I'd take Denver's climate over KC's any day.

The humidity of the KC area is pretty rough. That's why I really prefer where I am at. It gets pretty warm here and you have to dodge tornadoes but you don't have to take 3 showers a day like in Mo on a summer day.

Denver is way too cold for way too much of the year. KC is too hot and humid. I'll take Oklahoma.

Pass on Denver. I would rather not be entombed by snow every year, or only have two hours of daylight during the winter.

Actually, Denver is usually warmer during the winter months than KC is. And, it sure feels warmer due to the lack of moisture.

Kansas offers a more complete range of sunsets. Denver sunsets suck because you only get half a sunset.

Hey skip do you know why texas doesn't fall in the ocean becuase okalahomo sucks.

At least Denver's Gay Community is proud-they always have Blue and Orange on.

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I'll admit, having 62 inches of snow fall in the last three weeks has shaken me up a little.

Lol no one is going to Defend oklahoma that pathetic excuse of a state?

Exactly, people think its cold here because they think of the snow-capped mountains or winter storms, but once you live here you realize its a much more moderate climate than KC. Colorarado beats the **** out of KC for weather.

Summer time - while it may get into the 90's from time to time, it's not as humid and you can live without AC (I do anyway) plus the 30 degree temp drop each night helps a ton for keeping the house cool with an attic fan.

Winter - higher daily high temps plus tons of sunshine and low humidity makes winter quite a bit more mild. I've only lived here for 2 years now, but winter in KC is quite a bit harsher and colder.

Spring and Fall - Its warmer, plus the low rainfall amounts mean you have pleasant sunny weather most of the time. If you want to be outdoors a lot enjoying the weather this is much better than KC. I find it's a lot easier to hike, bike, run etc here because you can generally count on good weather.

Now it's not exactly San Diego in terms of being 75 year round, but this is great weather with rarely and overcast day, and you still get to experience all of the seasons.

Sure beats Kansas doesn't it? Where I was at in Kansas, it didn't matter which way the wind blew, we could smell it.

Normal Daily Minimum Temperature, Deg F

KANSAS CITY, MO: 16.7 21.8 32.6 43.8 53.9 63.1 68.2 65.7 56.9 45.7 33.6 21.9

DENVER, CO 16.1 20.2 25.8 34.5 43.6 52.4 58.6 56.9 47.6 36.4 25.4 17.4

Normal Daily Maximum Temperature, Deg F

KANSAS CITY, MO 34.7 40.6 52.8 65.1 74.3 83.3 88.7 86.4 78.1 67.5 52.6 38.8

DENVER, CO 43.2 46.6 52.2 61.8 70.8 81.4 88.2 85.8 76.9 66.3 52.5 44.5

KC has 2-4 weeks of great weather every year. The rest of the time its either too hot, too cold, or raining. The only things I miss weather wise are huge vast sunsets and the massive thunderstorms you can watch spreading out across the plains.

I haven't lived in Kansas City, but I've lived in St. Louis and Austin, Texas, and I strongly prefer Denver over either.

I'll admit that my experiences are probably colored by my life stages at the time, but I lived in St. Louis (burbs) for five years and never found a home. Nothing ever felt right about it. I used to describe it as Soviet Louis, because it seemed very bland to me. Things may have changed, but back then you just didn't go downtown or to any areas that might have had "personality."

I then moved to Austin, and like it much better. Again, in part that could've been life stage since I was in grad school, which was more or less a two-year vacation. While I liked Austin, though, I wasn't that interested in staying after graduation. In part, it seemed like a city to me that is so geared to students that a "real adult" was a little out of place.

Then I moved to Denver, and it really spoke to me. I love Denver as a city. It has real neighborhoods with great architecture. It's got an interesting history. It's got a western horizon that's way cool. The city is big enough to have lots of culture, but small enough that it's not overwhelming. There are no neighborhoods that scare me. Yeah, there's the football team and the Cult of Elway, and that's sad, but it's just a pimple on a supermodel. You can overlook that.

The weather here is superb, too. Typically, you can take the temperatures in Missouri and subtract two degrees, and that's what you've got in Colorado. In the summer, though, our high desert climate means that, even if we have a 95 degree day, it'll cool down into the 50s at night. On the hottest days this summer, I tried to sleep out on our back deck, but came in each night because it got too cold. Try that in Missouri, and you'll just get eaten by bugs as you drown in your sweat. My house, in fact, had no cooling of any kind until we added a swamp cooler a few years back. And the snow in the winter? No big deal. A lot of our snow disappears quickly because it arrives on the cool nights and disappears the next day. Our climate is our best-kept secret.

Speaking of bugs, we don't have them here. It's too dry for fleas to survive, so my pets don't have to worry about them. I've heard people talk about roaches, but in 13 years here I've never seen one. The dry climate really controls the insect population. I can eat dinner outside here and not get swarmed like I would back in Missouri. It's amazing.

It may be a simple fact that the nature of Denver worked for me at the stage of life that I was in when I moved here. Or it may be that I would've always been happy here. I don't know. I can say, though, that as much as I enjoy the process of moving to a new place and recreating myself, I don't see a place I'd rather be than Denver.

I'm not so sure about that. Denver doesn't get as warm as Kansas City in the summer (at least not over such an extended time), but I'm not sure it's much colder than KC in the winter.

Denver has more sunny days than KC.

All in all, I prefer Denver's weather over Kansas City's. Even when it does snow, the sun often comes out the next day and melts it away (unless it was a four foot snowfall or something crazy like that).

Nice synopsis.

It really is a nice place, except for all the Broncos fans. I'm in KC this week, and this is the first time that I've been back that this hasn't felt like home.

Denver, for sure. I like the weather a lot better, the 20 minute drive to the mountains, the downtown district equals Westport, the roads are better, they even have better radio stations. JMO

My answer to the OP question is Denver.

Denver has better weather, better outdoor recreation (both summer and winter), more business opportunity (at least in the high tech sector) and it's further from Kansas. Kansas City has a better football team, less traffic and a bigger river.

I live in KC now because that's where family is, but I really liked living in Denver for the 9 months I was out there.

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Denver hands down. Its a great city.

Yes, I forgot about the thunderstorms. They are the only good thing about KC weather besides the fact that we don't have hurricanes.

Here's what KC has over Denver:
history
deeper cultural ties
better traffic
lower cost of living
established architecture and neighborhoods (unfortunately much of it is in run down areas)
* and possibly food


* I haven't had the chance to explore Denver enough on this topic, and have had trouble replacing the good restaurants I knew about in KC.

No, I was a consultant at a cable company at the time (MediaOne).

Ah.

I'll admit that I haven't explored KC in any depth, but I'd be surprised if KC beats Denver in architecture. My part of town has lots of great old houses that are very nice neighborhoods, punctuated by some amazing old mansions. The silver and mining barons had a lot of money back around the turn of the previous century.

Denver gets a lot more snow but it's gone just as fast. I've lived close to Denver for 10yrs and the winters here are like a long fall. Most days the temp is in the 40's and 50's. Not like KC or Omaha where the weather can get REALLY cold in the winters.

Yeah, I'm not sure where people are getting the idea that KC has more culture or history than Denver. I've seen plenty of both every time I've been there. There are a lot of fantastic turn of the century houses up there that I like to look at as I drive around.

Have you seen this picture before?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:D...LOC_09570u.jpg

I'd take that bet any day. Denver is not even close, IMO.

Is that an old Capitol building? Or is that the City-County building? I can't figure out what that street is.

Really? Like I said, I really don't know Kansas City very well, but Denver seems to have most of its turn-of-the-last-century buildings existing intact.

Neither can I. I downloaded the high-resolution version and I'm trying to figure what's what. You certainly know downtown better than I.

KC was the bigger city back then and had more money. It has better architecture from that era. The problem is plenty of it is in neighborhoods that have been run down or that people are scared of. Denver only really surpased KC in size and money over the last 20-30 years or so. I could give you a tour of KC that would bring this point home.

You know what? I think that's the State Capitol.

In what area did you advise the cable company? Programming? Head End?

this is where denver gets the edge...places like wash park, cherry creek etc have been maintained or upgraded while back in KC, people flocked across the border.

both cities do have good architecture, and my previous statement might have been a little overboard, but the architecture in downtown KC is really cool.

I'd love to live in Denver. I'd move there in a heartbeat for the right opportunity.

How'd you like to come and mow my lawn? Hmmmm? Hmmmmmm!?

I'm stumped. That view is obviously looking west, but I don't know of any east-west streets that end (or ended) in an open space like that. The triangular building looks a bit like the Brown Palace, but I can't figure out how it would be there compared to the building that looks like the City-County building. And I don't know when the Capitol was built, but if that's the City-County building, then the Capitol must not have been built yet?? Bottom line: I can't place it.


Another advantage Denver has: it's very easy to get around in the older part of the city. Grid streets with numbers on east-west streets and word patterns on north-south street (e.g., streets in alphabetical order, or named after presidents, or some such thing).

make your own oppotunity....you can do it.

If it pays $85k per year I'll do it.

I moved up here not intending to stay permanently but a few months later I had little desire to live anywhere else.

The weather and outdoor activities along with a decent city size / downtown is a great combination. This recent weather has been pretty damn annoying though.

Well, clear all the fucking snow off of it first, and then we'll talk numbers. I'll throw my wife in, too.

Looks like the Capitol was built around 1890, so if that's it, that would be Colfax, right?

I'm not falling for this crap.

I would take closer to the slopes. But that's me.

I haven't lived in either town, but I was very close to taking a job up there last April. It would have been a lateral move and going from Texas to Colorado didn't make sense from a $ perspective since it was lateral.

I just love the area with the outdoors activities. Even if I didn't like the Broncos, I'd go there. Hell, I hate the Cowboys and I live in Dallas.

Please explain what qualifies you for an 85k job.

BTW, Donger, have you made the switch to being a Broncos fan yet?

It's quite possible. I think I read recently that the park across the street wasn't built until the 1920s, and I'll bet the City-County building would've been built at the same time. I think the Capitol has to be older, though if it's this building they must've expanded the size of the dome at some point.

The Capitol is bordered by Lincoln on its west, Colfax on it's north, 14th on its south, Grant on its east, though. If we're facing west, that major street would have to be Colfax, but there's no way that Colfax dead-ended like that.

Plus, the Capitol is on a pretty noticeable hill. Unless they excavated out a lot of space to put in the park, I don't see that hill anywhere.

Those angles keep making me think we're looking south from 18th Street, but that can't be right, because the mountains wouldn't be in the right place. We have to be looking directly west, but that street can't be Colfax.

Very confusing.

I'll look at the Capitol tomorrow, because it's right down the street from my office. That building looks kind of familiar, but there are also some differences, I think. It could be associated with construction of a larger dome, though.

There's no chance that the building is one of those big old high schools, is it? Denver North, or Denver West?

We helped them with a database marketing project.

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Those are great. I love your new list.

It's going to be in the teens here next week. :shake:

I make things happen.

Old picture?...

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Present day.


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No, but my son has. Little Anakin.

I love mountains, so Denver wins for me. But I'll take Hawaii over either one. In fact, I did..... :p

heh - how old is he?

So far my son loves the Chiefs still and gets really excited about them, but he's only 6 so that may fade over time.

Anakin, Mr. Donger?

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That's definitely the Capitol before the dome was recovered in Gold.

He's 5. And, he was born in Denver, so I can't complain.