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recxjake 01-19-2007 02:36 AM

Chiefs | Team will likely look for top defensive tackle
 
Chiefs | Team will likely look for top defensive tackle
Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:22:46 -0800

Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports the Kansas City Chiefs are expected to target a high-quality defensive tackle this offseason, and unless one is released, they will likely have to look to the draft for one.


Chiefs | Webb will see increased role next season
Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:43:37 -0800

Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports Kansas City Chiefs WR Jeff Webb will be a bigger part of the team's offense next season, according to head coach Herman Edwards. "Webb will be a part of this offense," said Edwards. "He needs to be. He's a good football player. We've got to get him on the football field."

SPchief 01-19-2007 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recxjake
Chiefs | Team will likely look for top defensive tackle
Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:22:46 -0800

Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports the Kansas City Chiefs are expected to target a high-quality defensive tackle this offseason, and unless one is released, they will likely have to look to the draft for one.


Chiefs | Webb will see increased role next season
Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:43:37 -0800

Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports Kansas City Chiefs WR Jeff Webb will be a bigger part of the team's offense next season, according to head coach Herman Edwards. "Webb will be a part of this offense," said Edwards. "He needs to be. He's a good football player. We've got to get him on the football field."


double duh

cheefer 01-19-2007 02:39 AM

we need an OT first

Tribal Warfare 01-19-2007 02:42 AM

I hope this doesn't mean we are gonna reach in this years draft :banghead:

Ultra Peanut 01-19-2007 06:42 AM

Suuuuuuure.

HonestChieffan 01-19-2007 07:14 AM

and Mike Shula will come to KC...


next

patteeu 01-19-2007 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare
I hope this doesn't mean we are gonna reach in this years draft :banghead:

Agreed. It sure sounds like that's a danger though.

Anyong Bluth 01-19-2007 07:40 AM

If they are gonna do this, do it right and move up high enough to the top guy then! But is there even a DT that is worth really moving up for???

bushmaster 01-19-2007 07:46 AM

we don't have enough picks to move up high enough. unless they only want to draft 1 guy.

i think branch from michigan is about it.

BigRedChief 01-19-2007 07:50 AM

Boy I'm glad they scouped that info out of the Chiefs.

bushmaster 01-19-2007 08:06 AM

teicher is a bloodhound.

boogblaster 01-19-2007 08:23 AM

Maybe they'll at least up-grade the Chiefettes...

Tribal Warfare 01-19-2007 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cocina_Basement
If they are gonna do this, do it right and move up high enough to the top guy then! But is there even a DT that is worth really moving up for???


Amobi Okoye

Anyong Bluth 01-19-2007 08:32 AM

I don't know if Okoye is worth moving up for. I watched him play and LOVE his game, but with the weak DT class this year and DT being such a premium, I think he'll go real high.

If there a chance to get him in the mid to high teens, that's one thing, but I don't know if he grades out as a DT prospect worth moving up too high for?

My top 2 would be Okoye and Jarett. I think any DT of worth will be off the board long long before we can sniff it and WR is loaded in this draft. I pretty much NEVER want to go after a wideout with a 1st pick, but its a position of serious need for us and watching him play in the Rosebowl I really like his chances to dominate in the NFL. He's a big guy, which Herm likes for his WR, so maybe a chance it happens?

siberian khatru 01-19-2007 08:33 AM

If they want to reach, why don't they just re-sign Junior Siavii? Same difference.

Anyong Bluth 01-19-2007 08:43 AM

I was looking around at various draft projections and one site had us taking Levi Brown, OT, Penn St. They had Okoye going to Miami and Jarrett going to the Packers. Here's the blurb on the 3:

Levi Brown
For years this franchise has been spoiled with outstanding offensive line play but those days have come to an end and with Willie Roaf retiring before last season and Will Shields set to ride into the sunset as well there are some major concerns up front. I would not be at all surprised if Levi Brown is off the board by this point considering the dearth of top offensive tackles in this draft but if he is still available the Chiefs would be wise to jump on him because it might be their last chance to add an immediate contributor outside. Levi Brown is a mountain of a man at 6-5 and 328 lbs. but he is also a pretty good athlete and has a ton of starting experience in the Big Ten. This move would provide a major upgrade over Jordan Black at left tackle and might even be a best-case scenario for them in round one. Defensive tackle and wide receiver will also garner serious consideration and there will likely still be some value on the board at both spots.

Okoye
This just might be the toughest pick to project in round one but in the end it came down to Amobi Okoye and Leon Hall, and the defensive tackle got the final nod. The Phins have plenty of needs but with Vonnie Holliday, Keith Traylor and Jeff Zgonina all slated to become unrestricted free agents there is a good chance Miami will be losing their top three interior linemen this offseason, which would make the position priority #1. The NFL Draft has rarely, if ever, seen a prospect like Okoye, who played in college as a 16-year-old true freshman and will still only be a 20-year-old rookie next fall despite having four years of Division I playing experience. Okoye is coming off a fantastic senior campaign and his upside is through the roof which is why he is one of the hottest names in the draft and soaring up the boards of most teams. Hall would be a possibility as well and the Dolphins need secondary help but Okoye and his potential are just too enticing.

Jarrett
A common phenomenon I have noticed in the NFL is teams with lackluster talent somehow finding a way to win a few more games than they probably should, thus taking them out of contention to land the type of elite player in the draft that they still need. Unfortunately for the Cheeseheads I'm afraid that might be the case with Green Bay this year because even though they finished with a .500 record at 8-8 they are still probably among the bottom 5-7 teams in the league when it comes to overall talent. That doesn't mean they can't land an impact player here though and Dwayne Jarrett would be a terrific addition to their young offense. When it comes to size, hands, ball skills and production Jarrett has few peers in this draft but he will most likely be pushed down draft boards due to his lack of top end timed speed and the inevitable comparisons to Mike Williams. Regardless Jarrett is simply a football player who will get the job done between the white lines and if he falls much further than this someone will have themselves quite a steal.

Eleazar 01-19-2007 09:53 AM

Hopefully we can "reach" like we did with Hali.

Kerberos 01-19-2007 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare
Amobi Okoye

Yup

Great work ethic, Very Young but VERY SMART!

I don't want to waste draft pics moving up but if we did I would be less pissed if they did it for someone of this kids ability.

.

crazycoffey 01-19-2007 10:27 AM

We need a DT????


:eek:

StcChief 01-19-2007 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare
I hope this doesn't mean we are gonna reach in this years draft :banghead:

Your forgot the reach again :banghead:

shaneo69 01-19-2007 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recxjake
Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports the Kansas City Chiefs are expected to target a high-quality defensive tackle this offseason, and unless one is released, they will likely have to look to the draft for one.

Hey Teicher, FYI, there's this thing the NFL has, I think it's called free agency, that allows you to sign players such as, oh, maybe DT's, after their contracts expire. The invention of free agency allows teams to now fill their holes without having to wait for a great player to get released, or without having to spend a draft pick on the position of need.

eazyb81 01-19-2007 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaneo69
Hey Teicher, FYI, there's this thing the NFL has, I think it's called free agency, that allows you to sign players such as, oh, maybe DT's, after their contracts expire. The invention of free agency allows teams to now fill their holes without having to wait for a great player to get released, or without having to spend a draft pick on the position of need.

Umm, what high-quality DT would you like us to sign in free agency this year?

Chiefnj 01-19-2007 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81
Umm, what high-quality DT would you like us to sign in free agency this year?

Ian Scott???

Kerberos 01-19-2007 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81
Umm, what LOW-quality DT would you like us to sign in free agency this year?


I hear Ryan Simms is available on the Cheap!

....oh wait.

.

eazyb81 01-19-2007 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj
Ian Scott???

Ian Scott is high-quality?

Eric 01-19-2007 11:58 AM

Take 2 dtackles ?

crazycoffey 01-19-2007 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rxrider
I hear Ryan Simms is available on the Cheap!

....oh wait.

.


I already covered this. I think we need to lock him in a big room all off season, feeding him nothing but roids while showing him pictures of Israel War Interrogations and making him work out 24/7. Increasing the odds of actually living up to his potential and brainwashing him to be a robot beast that only wants to feed on the blood of opposing QB's.

If this doesn't complete the deal, then I would be willing to take part in a ransom over a loved one (surely he loves something besides Dunkin Donuts).

cmh6476 01-19-2007 01:21 PM

id be happy with cory redding :shrug:

Fire Me Boy! 01-19-2007 01:22 PM

Man, you can't get scoops like this with a premium membership, that's for sure!

BIG_DADDY 01-19-2007 01:23 PM

3rd time's a charm.

Kerberos 01-19-2007 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!
Man, you can't get scoops like this with a premium membership, that's for sure!

You got Premium dude?

KEWL!

:hail:

.

Chiefnj 01-19-2007 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81
Ian Scott is high-quality?

He's a young ascending player at a position of need. The perfect free agent.

shaneo69 01-19-2007 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81
Umm, what high-quality DT would you like us to sign in free agency this year?

Redding and Sands. Not all-pro quality, but better than anything we'll get in the draft.

milkman 01-19-2007 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recxjake
Chiefs | Webb will see increased role next season
Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:43:37 -0800

Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports Kansas City Chiefs WR Jeff Webb will be a bigger part of the team's offense next season, according to head coach Herman Edwards. "Webb will be a part of this offense," said Edwards. "He needs to be. He's a good football player. We've got to get him on the football field."

If you've got to get Webb on the football field, then why didn't you?

Oh, I forgot, the offense is too complex for your dumbass, and as such, you don't realize you're a dumbass and think everyone else has roughly the same IQ.

I wonder if Herman ****ing Edwards is even smart enough to spell "IQ"?

I highly doubt it.

Kerberos 01-19-2007 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman
If you've got to get Webb on the football field, then why didn't you?

Oh, I forgot, the offense is too complex for your dumbass, and as such, you don't realize you're a dumbass and think everyone else has roughly the same IQ.

I wonder if Herman ****ing Edwards is even smart enough to spell "IQ"?

I highly doubt it.

Can WE expect that when Herm Edwards is long gone from one Arrowhead Drive that YOUR Avatar will read Leading the Marty & HERM bashing

go bo 01-19-2007 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cocina_Basement
If they are gonna do this, do it right and move up high enough to the top guy then! But is there even a DT that is worth really moving up for???

didn't we do that before?

how's that working out?

Bob Dole 01-19-2007 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by go bo
didn't we do that before?

how's that working out?

That's kind of what Bob Dole was thinking.

Maybe we've magically figured out how to draft a DT, but Bob Dole ain't holding his breath.

C-Mac 01-19-2007 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman
If you've got to get Webb on the football field, then why didn't you?

He would have been critisized for changing the holy offense.

HMc 01-19-2007 10:51 PM

heh. i just saw a clip of Herm getting schooled by kenny king in SB XV.

Why don't we move to the 3-4, at least then we'd only need to luck out on <b>one</b> DT, rather than two.

milkman 01-19-2007 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-Mac
He would have been critisized for changing the holy offense.

Yeah, like that dumbass is smart enough to realize he's being critisized.

Bob Dole 01-19-2007 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-Mac
He would have been critisized for changing the holy offense.

That's silly. They changed it anyway.

While the plays they ran this year may have been in the same playbook, they sure as hell didn't use them in the same manner as previous years.

Nobody who can wipe their ass without an instruction manual is going to bitch about putting the best players on the field.

HMc 01-19-2007 10:56 PM

"We didn't change the offense"

sure, herm, you didn't change the book. I don't doubt Saunders had "up the center's butt" in there. he just didn't use it on 65% of downs.

royr17 01-19-2007 11:05 PM

The only Defensive Tackle I would be interested in the Chiefs goin after is Albert Haynesworth, ton of potential and talent, but too much baggage .....

Other than that I dont know who else is available, does anybody know ?

Bob Dole 01-19-2007 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by royr17
The only Defensive Tackle I would be interested in the Chiefs goin after is Albert Haynesworth, ton of potential and talent, but too much baggage .....

Other than that I dont know who else is available, does anybody know ?

Bob Dole would almost be willing to bet Scanlon could play DT.

FloridaMan88 01-19-2007 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recxjake
Chiefs | Webb will see increased role next season
Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:43:37 -0800

Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports Kansas City Chiefs WR Jeff Webb will be a bigger part of the team's offense next season, according to head coach Herman Edwards. "Webb will be a part of this offense," said Edwards. "He needs to be. He's a good football player. We've got to get him on the football field."

Herm Schottenheimer is seriously trying to assemble the worst offense in modern NFL history.

Brodie Croyle? Jeff Webb? Jordan Black? The fact Herm actually thinks these players have a future in the Chiefs offense shows how clueless he is.

jspchief 01-20-2007 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88
Herm Schottenheimer is seriously trying to assemble the worst offense in modern NFL history.

Brodie Croyle? Jeff Webb? Jordan Black? The fact Herm actually thinks these players have a future in the Chiefs offense shows how clueless he is.

Webb and Croyle have barely even seen the Pro field. How in the hell have you already determined they are busts?

Chris Meck 01-20-2007 01:05 PM

For cryin' out loud.

you don't go to a 3-4 because you have no DT's.

We don't have ANY 3-4 ends (Tamba and Allen are way too small to play end in a 3-4, and yet too big and too standard of 4-3 type athletes to play OLB in a 3-4.)

We don't have any real ILB's for a 3-4 other than Bell.


It's a really dumb idea. We'd negate an awful lot of good young talent at key spots (DE, LB) just because...

what? WE'd still need a massive DT. So there's really no reason at all.

Chris

suds79 01-20-2007 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief
Webb and Croyle have barely even seen the Pro field. How in the hell have you already determined they are busts?

Good point.

Now Jordan Black is a different story.

But as far as Webb & Croyle, you never know until you play them. I'm ready for change.

HMc 01-20-2007 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck
For cryin' out loud.

you don't go to a 3-4 because you have no DT's.

We don't have ANY 3-4 ends (Tamba and Allen are way too small to play end in a 3-4, and yet too big and too standard of 4-3 type athletes to play OLB in a 3-4.)

We don't have any real ILB's for a 3-4 other than Bell.


It's a really dumb idea. We'd negate an awful lot of good young talent at key spots (DE, LB) just because...

what? WE'd still need a massive DT. So there's really no reason at all.

Chris

I was kidding.

Direckshun 01-20-2007 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief
Boy I'm glad they scouped that info out of the Chiefs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bushmaster
teicher is a bloodhound.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazycoffey
We need a DT????

:eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaneo69
Hey Teicher, FYI, there's this thing the NFL has, I think it's called free agency, that allows you to sign players such as, oh, maybe DT's, after their contracts expire. The invention of free agency allows teams to now fill their holes without having to wait for a great player to get released, or without having to spend a draft pick on the position of need.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rxrider
I hear Ryan Simms is available on the Cheap!

....oh wait.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!
Man, you can't get scoops like this with a premium membership, that's for sure!

LMAO

Love. It.

Chief Roundup 01-20-2007 08:50 PM

Hmm I thought Carl Peterson just said that LT was the most pressing need or something to that affect on the radio.

HMc 01-20-2007 08:55 PM

as if all pro DTs aren't being released all over the place.

Mojo Rising 01-20-2007 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HMc
as if all pro DTs aren't being released all over the place.

Booger McFarland is not an All Pro, however, he is better than anything that will wear a Chiefs uni next year. He was available last year.

Donte Stallworth was also available last year before the season when he could have made a difference.

These were both glaring needs. Instead, we focused on Michael Bennett, who did fill a void. We should have also gone for these other solutions.

HMc 01-20-2007 09:17 PM

Drew Bennett


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